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He didn't tell them to work for their freedom and then to buy their own slaves. Your question is idiotic at best.

He's also wrong. Rome at its peak had between 5-10 million slaves. The United States in 1860 had 3.75 million slaves

"Within the South, slave ownership was becoming concentrated into a smaller number of hands. The proportion of southern families owning slaves declined from 36 percent in 1830 to 25 percent in 1860. At the same time, slavery was sharply declining in the upper South."

- The Economics of Slavery

I find it interesting that you use your religion to defend the institution of slavery.

All of this and not one word about how the media of the time egged it all on.
Kinda like today.



Dave

But what was happening to the total number of slaves in The South during that same time period?

I’m not the one who brought up the point that killing people to free their slaves would get one some kind of brownie points with God in Judgment Day.

Slavery was not a good business model, and the invention of the cotton gin would have been the nail that finally ended that 'peculiar institution'. Witness the other nations that ended slavery peacefully without a bloody civil war. Witness slavery being legal in Saudi Arabia until the 1960's (and is still an underground institution there). No, the Civil War was all about Lincoln consolidating unconstitutional power under the hammer of FedGov no matter the literal cost in lives. Good riddance to him, he had it coming when he became a live test model for the effectiveness of a small caliber derringer pistol at close range.

The Cotton Gin actually increased the need for slaves. There were more slaves in the hands of fewer owners. And the South, even the non slave owning majority, were definitely fighting to keep the slaves on the Plantation. Can you imagine what the sudden release of 3.75 million negroes meant for Southern culture? It would be ruined overnight. And it was

The Civil War was the prototype for the next century and a half of foreign policy and war.

^^^This^^^

Lincoln killed more Americans in the War of Northern Agression than all other American wars combined.

But we had the pleasure of dying for the good of the Africans. That makes it all better

For a better picture about just who defended what and why refer to the Lincoln/Douglas debates.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln%E2%80%93Douglas_debates

The 3/5ths clause was a compromise rule because of Slavery. Counting the Slaves would've given the South unfettered rule of the Union forever. https://www.heritage.org/constitution/#!/articles/1/essays/6/three-fifths-clause
Obama loved to harp about it never bothering to tell the truth about just why it was there in the first place. Slaves were not taxed nor had the right to vote. Why then would they be counted in appointing delegates in the first place? At present the Democrats are flooding our Nation with illegals with the same intent they had during Slavery with one caveat; they will be allowed to vote.

Slavery likely would've died had it not been pushed so hard by the Southern Oligarchs; Big Plantation owners that largely funded the Civil War without actually fighting in it. They insisted on spreading it to the new territories which was opposed by Republicans. Most people on both sides never owned a slave and could've ever afforded to purchase one. Most people that fought did so because they were told it was a territorial dispute and they were defending their own territory. Lee fought for the South because he was from Virginia.
I hold no animosity toward anyone on the other side of the debate but defending the idea of slavery is untenable. It is against our own Declaration of Independence, and I agree concessions were made in order to get southern slave states to sign but it was debated and always considered that in time they would abandon the idea of slavery.
holding on to the idea of legalized slavery is just wrong and the arguments for it and against the war are not unlike those poor tortured soles that destroy our Confederate Monuments and Monuments of our Founding Fathers.

The South represented the values of the Founders and the North of Augustus Caesar.

White people are still dying 'for the good of the Afreakans' to this day. When does it stop??

It would be nice if the Darkies would at least appreciate it. But they never have and they [bleep] on white people at every opportunity

That would be what your stupid ass takes from that.

Lincoln was the worst president. Ever.

Did Lincoln say on 18 September 1858, "“I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races … I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of Negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races from living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be a position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race.”

He was a White Supremist and his statements, made to get elected, (as the people of Illinois had a two tired system relative to the black race) are proof of that. Like most politicians he would say and do anything for a vote, sentiments be damned.

Lincoln was also one of those [bleep] who began running for office at about the age of 23 I believe.