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Originally Posted by Rossimp
I think the 25-06 kills game very fine way the hell out there with standard 1-10. I guess all that matters is how far you want to take a crack at game animals. If fast twist is your thing in similar caliber size you’d be better served with a 1-8 or 1-7.5 twisted 6mm whether 243 WCF, 6mm Creedmoor, or LA 6mm Remington. 6mm all have superior bullets and of course 6.5mm goes without saying. Still, there’s nothing wrong with a 1-10 twist 25-06 Remington in the corn or bean fields on game way the hell out there.


I guess the best part is they don’t charge more for the extra twist and you could still shoot the normal 257 bullets from the gun if you didn’t care for the higher BC jobs, plus you’d get a little extra benefit from the extra RPMs. Kind of a win win win


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I would agree, it’s just that the .257 bore at this time in bullet development is the least of the sweet spots for building a heavy for caliber fast twist rig. In taking big game with 90gr to 120gr loads, a 1-10 twist .257 at 400 yards is at no disadvantage, especially with a 25-06 Rem or 257 Wby.

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For sure. I just meant if your putting a barrel on a gun there is no disadvantage to getting the faster twist while you’re doing it. Seems like the 25’s are about where the 270’s are at.


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That is were I am at ... I have a new to me 25-06 Kimber Montana. I am going to shoot it to see where it is at, but if there is a hint it needs a new barrel off it will go and I would like get a 1:8 if it was no disadvantage in the 100grain bullets.

Now watch it shoot like crazy and not need a new barrel smile

I got this rifle when I really was looking to build a 257 Weatherby but common sense told me you get about 95% of the 257 WBY with a 25-06 (or so it seems to me)

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Originally Posted by elkrazy
That is were I am at ... I have a new to me 25-06 Kimber Montana. I am going to shoot it to see where it is at, but if there is a hint it needs a new barrel off it will go and I would like get a 1:8 if it was no disadvantage in the 100grain bullets.

Now watch it shoot like crazy and not need a new barrel smile

I got this rifle when I really was looking to build a 257 Weatherby but common sense told me you get about 95% of the 257 WBY with a 25-06 (or so it seems to me)


Some of my best shooting rifles are ones I bought as donors just for the action with the intent to rebarrel. Then I made the mistake of shooting them before sending them off fir a new barrel. They used to say don't shoot the donor around here a lot so I think it's a common problem.

I have a kimber Montana 270 wsm I bought with the intent if doing a 6.5 prc or 6.5 4s on. Then took it to the range just to shoot up a few 270 wsm rounds I had. Of course the worst group it shot was about .80moa. It's still a 270 wsm even though im not a 270 fan.

I bought a stainless classic model 70 in 243 with an old bushnell 3200 3-9 a few years ago thinking I'd get it rebored to 358 win. The scope was already on it and I had a few boxes of Federal blue box 100g ammo so I Shor a few groups one day. They were all under 1 moa so that rifle is still a 243.

The rifles I buy that don't shoot well are usually the ones I want to keep as is. If I buy it for the action or with a project in mind it almost always shoots great as is.

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Originally Posted by Burleyboy
Originally Posted by elkrazy
That is were I am at ... I have a new to me 25-06 Kimber Montana. I am going to shoot it to see where it is at, but if there is a hint it needs a new barrel off it will go and I would like get a 1:8 if it was no disadvantage in the 100grain bullets.

Now watch it shoot like crazy and not need a new barrel smile

I got this rifle when I really was looking to build a 257 Weatherby but common sense told me you get about 95% of the 257 WBY with a 25-06 (or so it seems to me)


Some of my best shooting rifles are ones I bought as donors just for the action with the intent to rebarrel. Then I made the mistake of shooting them before sending them off fir a new barrel. They used to say don't shoot the donor around here a lot so I think it's a common problem.

I have a kimber Montana 270 wsm I bought with the intent if doing a 6.5 prc or 6.5 4s on. Then took it to the range just to shoot up a few 270 wsm rounds I had. Of course the worst group it shot was about .80moa. It's still a 270 wsm even though im not a 270 fan.

I bought a stainless classic model 70 in 243 with an old bushnell 3200 3-9 a few years ago thinking I'd get it rebored to 358 win. The scope was already on it and I had a few boxes of Federal blue box 100g ammo so I Shor a few groups one day. They were all under 1 moa so that rifle is still a 243.

The rifles I buy that don't shoot well are usually the ones I want to keep as is. If I buy it for the action or with a project in mind it almost always shoots great as is.

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Well put Burley.


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Originally Posted by Burleyboy
Originally Posted by elkrazy
That is were I am at ... I have a new to me 25-06 Kimber Montana. I am going to shoot it to see where it is at, but if there is a hint it needs a new barrel off it will go and I would like get a 1:8 if it was no disadvantage in the 100grain bullets.

Now watch it shoot like crazy and not need a new barrel smile

I got this rifle when I really was looking to build a 257 Weatherby but common sense told me you get about 95% of the 257 WBY with a 25-06 (or so it seems to me)


Some of my best shooting rifles are ones I bought as donors just for the action with the intent to rebarrel. Then I made the mistake of shooting them before sending them off fir a new barrel. They used to say don't shoot the donor around here a lot so I think it's a common problem.

I have a kimber Montana 270 wsm I bought with the intent if doing a 6.5 prc or 6.5 4s on. Then took it to the range just to shoot up a few 270 wsm rounds I had. Of course the worst group it shot was about .80moa. It's still a 270 wsm even though im not a 270 fan.

I bought a stainless classic model 70 in 243 with an old bushnell 3200 3-9 a few years ago thinking I'd get it rebored to 358 win. The scope was already on it and I had a few boxes of Federal blue box 100g ammo so I Shor a few groups one day. They were all under 1 moa so that rifle is still a 243.

The rifles I buy that don't shoot well are usually the ones I want to keep as is. If I buy it for the action or with a project in mind it almost always shoots great as is.

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one other nice thing about a 25 caliber rifle is it does have less recoil too and shooting in the prone position with a bi-pod and 25 caliber rifle with a fast twist barrel is much easier on my shoulder ,accurate and shoots a long ways out too with these new heavier grained .257 bullets


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Pretty bad ass looking bullet.


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That hammer is groovey looking.looks sleek and I like the radiused edges on the grooves.

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