Where is heaven? Is there anything physical or tangible
20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
I have no doubt that heaven exists. I don’t know exactly where it is, exactly what it will look like, or who will be there, but I know I’m going there when my days are up on this earth. Ymmv
Where is heaven? Is there anything physical or tangible
20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
another set of "bible" clichés that mean nothing. what does that even mean?
I have no doubt that heaven exists. I don’t know exactly where it is, exactly what it will look like, or who will be there, but I know I’m going there when my days are up on this earth. Ymmv
That must be very comforting.
"...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe
I have no doubt that heaven exists. I don’t know exactly where it is, exactly what it will look like, or who will be there, but I know I’m going there when my days are up on this earth. Ymmv
That must be very comforting.
If old Hasbeen is wrong what has he lost. Then ask yourself what happens if Hasbeen is right.
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This is a long study so it will not happen here. I will toss out a few things to look at. We are very limited as to what we can sense. We were born disabled. Our eyes detect a very narrow energy band. Our ears even less. We try to compensate with instruments to aid our natural equipment. Even with radio telescopes and super computers we are best described as inadequate. We now know that 80% of the universe can not be detected by us. We can only detect 20% of what exist. We are blind to the universe around us. A few years ago a bunch of egg heads tried to establish the rate the galaxies were slowing down. They found everything is gaining speed not slowing. This is what lead to the term " dark matter". This is how they phrased the material that must exist in order for the universe to behave the way it does. To us 80% of the universe is missing. We wear blinders. This flesh and blood we live in is what blinds us to what is. This body is the blinder.
Ideas are far more powerful than guns, We dont let our people have guns. Why should we let them have ideas. "Joseph Stalin"
He who has braved youths dizzy heat dreads not the frost of age.
Eternity in God’s presence isn’t a reward for good people; it’s God’s gift to forgiven people. Grace is His response to the thirsty soul. That’s my take on it.
Where is heaven? Is there anything physical or tangible
20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
another set of "bible" clichés that mean nothing. what does that even mean?
Actually, it is not talking about heaven at all. It is, literally, talking about the kingdom of God (just like it said).
The jews pointed to the physical temple as the representation of the kingdom of God on earth...which of course was destroyed by God through the Romans in 70AD.
The Kingdom now exists within each believer...the Holy Spirit is in the temple, which is every believer. Since Pentecost.
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We know the price of everything and the value of nothing.
Eternity in God’s presence isn’t a reward for good people; it’s God’s gift to forgiven people. Grace is His response to the thirsty soul. That’s my take on it.
Where is heaven? Is there anything physical or tangible
20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
another set of "bible" clichés that mean nothing. what does that even mean?
Actually, it is not talking about heaven at all. It is, literally, talking about the kingdom of God (just like it said).
The jews pointed to the physical temple as the representation of the kingdom of God on earth...which of course was destroyed by God through the Romans in 70AD.
The Kingdom now exists within each believer...the Holy Spirit is in the temple, which is every believer. Since Pentecost.
The kingdom of god- wtf is this? washed in the blood of the lamb, no idea what this actually means asked jesus into my heart. what?! the lord works in mysterious ways- trying to explain the stupid chit that actually happens every day if it's gods will (which basically means I give up)
there are more meaningless BS quoted bible verses and cliches from organized religions than can be counted. Pious religious zealots quote phrases and sayings that mean Jack Chit, however, to hard core religious fanatics, they all sound great and meaningful but mean nothing.
Human instinct is to believe in a higher power, or a creator. There is proof of that way before Jesus became a fad at 2000 yrs ago. Hindus were worshipping crazy chit 2000 yrs before Christians came up with their BS story. If there wasn't that human instinct, then any human would claim to be a higher power. (Hitler and others).
Higher power. End of story. All of the fictional ornaments hung on that christmas tree are total made up, fabricated, BS based on money. Bunch of dudes sitting in a locked room came up with this BS story, to include the Bible, and sold it. If the story isn't good enough nobody will pay for it. Organized religion and the monetary banking system seem to have been developed somewhat together. Coincidence? No.
Pay me and I'll tell you about eternal life. what a complete fantasy scam.
