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Eternity in God’s presence isn’t a reward for good people; it’s God’s gift to forgiven people. Grace is His response to the thirsty soul. That’s my take on it.

The kingdom of god- wtf is this?
washed in the blood of the lamb, no idea what this actually means
asked jesus into my heart. what?!
the lord works in mysterious ways- trying to explain the stupid chit that actually happens every day
if it's gods will (which basically means I give up)


there are more meaningless BS quoted bible verses and cliches from organized religions than can be counted. Pious religious zealots quote phrases and sayings that mean Jack Chit, however, to hard core religious fanatics, they all sound great and meaningful but mean nothing.

Human instinct is to believe in a higher power, or a creator. There is proof of that way before Jesus became a fad at 2000 yrs ago. Hindus were worshipping crazy chit 2000 yrs before Christians came up with their BS story. If there wasn't that human instinct, then any human would claim to be a higher power. (Hitler and others).

Higher power. End of story. All of the fictional ornaments hung on that christmas tree are total made up, fabricated, BS based on money. Bunch of dudes sitting in a locked room came up with this BS story, to include the Bible, and sold it. If the story isn't good enough nobody will pay for it. Organized religion and the monetary banking system seem to have been developed somewhat together. Coincidence? No.

Pay me and I'll tell you about eternal life. what a complete fantasy scam.

heaven is part of the story the jews sold the world and still charge 10% of your existence to tell you weekly about it.

Actually, it is not talking about heaven at all. It is, literally, talking about the kingdom of God (just like it said).

The jews pointed to the physical temple as the representation of the kingdom of God on earth...which of course was destroyed by God through the Romans in 70AD.

The Kingdom now exists within each believer...the Holy Spirit is in the temple, which is every believer. Since Pentecost.

The dog barks at what he does not understand.

Did you actually read the question?

More important to me than where it is is the question of what you do there for all eternity. Sing hymns? Listen to sermons? Play harps? I'd think you'd get bored.

Look friend, I spent 3 days a week in church until I joined the Navy at 21 yrs old. I was Baptized at 7 years old because the guest revival preacher scared the crap out of me. I memorized every verse of the bible, both old and new, forward and reverse by the time I was 9. I quoted scripture in preschool competition. I won Bible drills looking up verses. I know the story, I got it shoved down my throat for 21 years. I was singing "jesus loves me" in diapers. I spent so much time on my knees praying that I got blisters, so don't tell me I don't "understand" it.

I've also been around the world in both directions more than once, and I've seen the rest of the world worship their gods. do you know how similar Islam is to Christianity? seriously?

It's all about money, EVERY stinking fabricated word of it. Money, Money, Money. If you want to know how well a southern baptist church is doing, just ask the treasury committee. I served on one.

It's crap. It's all made up crap so there can be a cash flow.

So are all of the good Christians here paying the 10% tithe?

More important to me than where it is is the question of what you do there for all eternity. Sing hymns? Listen to sermons? Play harps? I'd think you'd get bored.

All I need is a small cabin down by the trout stream. My wife however, will probably deserve better.