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Anyone who believes four Russian generals have been killed in three weeks is a fuqing idiot. Anyone who cites a Twitter pic as evidence, is too stupid to remember to breath.

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Originally Posted by flintlocke
Of course I know nothing of the Russian military structure, but many years ago, I enlisted in an Army, 64-67, and in 3 years I can honestly say I never saw anyone above the rank of light colonel. In those days, I don't think generals went where there was dust or mud or schidters burning.


My responsibility as an E4 in the Marines in combat was on par with a Russian O4.

Their NCO corps suck

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Originally Posted by JoeBob
Anyone who believes four Russian generals have been killed in three weeks is a fuqing idiot. Anyone who cites a Twitter pic as evidence, is too stupid to remember to breath.




What about someone who believes that a false claim of Russian general death wouldn't IMMEDIATELY be refuted by Russia?

Of what value is allowing propaganda of 4 general deaths in 3 weeks to stand?


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Originally Posted by efw
Originally Posted by Houston_2
For those that might interested, the OP thread subject concerns Russian Generals being zapped to the tune of 4 and counting, yet to be disproven.


Just for the record I don’t believe anyone was attempting to DISprove anything, but only to point out that after so much disinformation spreading by corp press these last several years a considerable amount of skepticism with regard to their assertions may be in order.

Again please show me where someone in this thread said otherwise.

Can you understand why people might think you’re playing games the way you re-frame arguments to sound as tho you’re right?

This is the second post of yours on this page that is demonstrably false.



Most people do “frame” discussions to prove that they are right just like you’re doing now.

I doubt that you can see that clearly.

If you have such deep skepticisms please post relative sources to support that of which the OP stated as being fake news.

If I may borrow from you, Your above post is demonstrably false,

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Originally Posted by JoeBob
Anyone who believes four Russian generals have been killed in three weeks is a fuqing idiot. Anyone who cites a Twitter pic as evidence, is too stupid to remember to breath.


You have “the facts” concerning this, no doubt ?

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Originally Posted by goalie
Originally Posted by flintlocke
Of course I know nothing of the Russian military structure, but many years ago, I enlisted in an Army, 64-67, and in 3 years I can honestly say I never saw anyone above the rank of light colonel. In those days, I don't think generals went where there was dust or mud or schidters burning.


My responsibility as an E4 in the Marines in combat was on par with a Russian O4.

Their NCO corps suck


And they know it which is why they have majors or above (at times) leading squads in combat.


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Originally Posted by JoeBob
Anyone who believes four Russian generals have been killed in three weeks is a fuqing idiot. Anyone who cites a Twitter pic as evidence, is too stupid to remember to breath.


Do they have a general with each platoon?
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Originally Posted by Teal
Originally Posted by JoeBob
Anyone who believes four Russian generals have been killed in three weeks is a fuqing idiot. Anyone who cites a Twitter pic as evidence, is too stupid to remember to breath.




What about someone who believes that a false claim of Russian general death wouldn't IMMEDIATELY be refuted by Russia?

Of what value is allowing propaganda of 4 general deaths in 3 weeks to stand?




How would you know if they had? Got any news sources in the US reporting anything from Russia? Putin gave a major speech the other night and you have to plumb the depths of the internet to find it.

They didn’t bother to refute the Ghost of Kiev either. I guess it happened then right?

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Originally Posted by Houston_2


If I may borrow from you, Your above post is demonstrably false,


Actually it is since joebob just said what he said.

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Originally Posted by Houston_2
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Can you understand why people might think you’re playing games the way you re-frame...



Most people do “frame” discussions to prove that they are right just like you’re doing now.



Do you know the difference between framing and re-framing?

You’re absolutely right we all frame our arguments.

RE-framing, however, is when you say “X is true” such as here:

Originally Posted by Houston_2


Almost like, “you’re not a real American unless you back putin” narrative.



And then when pressed have to admit “we’ll ok that wasn’t quite what I meant” (ie re-framing) as you did here:

Originally Posted by Houston_2


Maybe not word for word, per se, and as much like what you’ve stated.



Now please note that I’ve admitted to having been wrong on my other point which AkWolverine pointed out. That was fair in regards to JoeBob.

Does that all make sense? I’m genuinely attempting to clarify a meaningful difference here not “score points”

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I reiterate, anyone who believes this schit is absolutely retarded. You are stupid. Sorry, no other way to explain it.

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Three to go.

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The way these stories have been lately, it could've been a high priced hooker with a kinky military uniform on.

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Originally Posted by Teal
Originally Posted by Houston_2
For those that might interested, the OP thread subject concerns Russian Generals being zapped to the tune of 4 and counting, yet to be disproven.


It would seem to me that if a Russian general was reported to be dead and he wasn't, it's in Russia's best interest to get him out in front of a camera to provide some sort of clap back against the propaganda. But that's harder to do if he's actually dead. (and thus - not propaganda)

His death has been confirmed by sources in the US Army. This source allso has seen multiple assessments that Russia will culminate within 14 days.


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Originally Posted by efw
Originally Posted by Houston_2
Originally Posted by efw


Can you understand why people might think you’re playing games the way you re-frame...



Most people do “frame” discussions to prove that they are right just like you’re doing now.



Do you know the difference between framing and re-framing?

You’re absolutely right we all frame our arguments.

RE-framing, however, is when you say “X is true” such as here:

Originally Posted by Houston_2


Almost like, “you’re not a real American unless you back putin” narrative.



And then when pressed have to admit “we’ll ok that wasn’t quite what I meant” (ie re-framing) as you did here:

Originally Posted by Houston_2


Maybe not word for word, per se, and as much like what you’ve stated.



Now please note that I’ve admitted to having been wrong on my other point which AkWolverine pointed out. That was fair in regards to JoeBob.

Does that all make sense? I’m genuinely attempting to clarify a meaningful difference here not “score points”




You interrupted me while trying to determine how many angels can dance on a pinhead.
I’m busy.

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Note dead yet but reportedly arrested or "dismissed".

https://www.foxnews.com/world/top-russian-general-detained-putin-traitors-ukraine-invasion

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Russian Gen. Roman Gavrilov, of Rosgvardia, the internal military force of the Russian Federation that reports directly to the president of the Russian Federation, was detained by the Russian security and counterintelligence agency, Federal Security Service (FSB), according to Christo Grozev, CEO of the Netherlands-based investigative journalism group Bellingcat.

The reason for Gavrilov's detention wasn’t immediately clear. Grozev said one of his sources told him that Gavrilov was detained by the FSB's military counter-intelligence department over "leaks of military info that led to loss of life," while two other sources said the reason was for "wasteful squandering of fuel."

Rosgvardia is a unit of the Russian Federation’s internal army that reportedly suffered heavy losses in Ukraine during the three weeks since the invasion began on Feb. 24.

Gavrilov previously worked for the Federal Protective Service (FSO) tasked with Putin’s security.

Russian state-run media reported on Thursday that Gavrilov had been fired.

In a message to Telegram, senior United Russia official Alexander Khinshtein said despite his dismissal, reports that Gavrilov had been arrested were "totally untrue."


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Originally Posted by OSU_Sig
Originally Posted by Teal
Originally Posted by Houston_2
For those that might interested, the OP thread subject concerns Russian Generals being zapped to the tune of 4 and counting, yet to be disproven.


It would seem to me that if a Russian general was reported to be dead and he wasn't, it's in Russia's best interest to get him out in front of a camera to provide some sort of clap back against the propaganda. But that's harder to do if he's actually dead. (and thus - not propaganda)

His death has been confirmed by sources in the US Army. This source allso has seen multiple assessments that Russia will culminate within 14 days.


OSU could you expand a little on Russia’s culminating within 14 days,please?

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I didn't know the term and the way it was explained to me was that Russia will run out of supplies/materiel within 14 days. That could change if they get supplied by China, I suppose.


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Originally Posted by JoeBob
I reiterate, anyone who believes this schit is absolutely retarded. You are stupid. Sorry, no other way to explain it.


Amen.
HE said, See what fruit the tree produces before you eat of it. I'll add, because the MSM tree produces a lot of schiett.

1. Obama, Kilery, Piglosi, Bidet, Schumer, Slick, good. Russian collusion real. Ukraine winning.

2. Trump, Que, bad.

Where were they correct?

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