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Hard to believe that no one has mentioned the 154g Hornady SP, which is rated as an elk bullet. At 3050 fps, the 154 will shoot holes through shoulders of all deer and large hogs the family has shot. We have had no problems with elk with this 154g Sp on elk. We have a load for bolt guns that shoots the 154 at 3250 with a max load of R#25 and Win mag primers on 26" barrels, 7 RM.
For those that do not know, the 154g Hornady Sp is a very, very accurate bullet in many of our rifles.
If you are going for some distance, impact velocity does matter, so consider the BC and make your choices accordingly.
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Slam a 150 NBT in a 7-08 case and turn me loose! 🤣 No fuss, no rodeo and no question, there will be a critter headed for the BBQ pit. After using a pile of different bullets in 7-08, 280, 7RM etc, the NBT’s are the most consistent for precision, lights out kills and 2” exits for me. 140’s used in this demonstration.. Ha! ![[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]](https://i.postimg.cc/HWKfwvJn/74-B2-EEC7-6-C30-47-C0-A97-B-5-D724408-E6-E9.jpg)
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I'm surprised the Partition was't picked as much as the others. The 150 gr. PT is a tack driver in my M70 FWT7x57. Besides, I'm not a big fan of ultra long range shots at game.
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150 g. NBT for my Model 7 7mm-08.
Many black tails in the freezer over the years.
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I used the 150 NBT in a 280 Ackley way back when they were "soft", killed alot of deer/antelope/exotics. We used the Speer 160SP for elk then. I used the 150 NP in a 7mm Rem Mag for deer in Texas/Georgia, perfection. I shot a ton of 154 Hornady SP from that 7mm Mag, but never connected with game. I agree, its accurate. The 154 SST was super dooper accurate from a 7mm Express(280) awhile back. Of course, you have to use the ones you actually have on the shelf nowadays, ha.
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Just saw some 150 NBT and TTSX over on Gunbroker. I could hunt/shoot the rest of my life ( I'm shooting for 120yrs old, we shall see! ha) with Barnes TTSX in "anything". They shoot like target bullets, kill "way" out of their weight range too!
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150 Nosler BT for me. About 3K FPS at the muzzle.
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Any interest in the 150 ELDX?
I’ve had great success with this bullet on deer, elk, and antelope from a 7mm-08.
I use the 162 in my 7mm Rem Mag, also with great success.
If I had to pick 1 for use in both cartridges it would be the 150.
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Any interest in the 150 ELDX?
I’ve had great success with this bullet on deer, elk, and antelope from a 7mm-08.
I use the 162 in my 7mm Rem Mag, also with great success.
If I had to pick 1 for use in both cartridges it would be the 150.
P Any close range shots (under 100 yards) with this bullet out of the 7-08? Curious how it held up.
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It would be NBT or Scenar for me.
Any would likely work, but I’ve seen and personally had success with those 2 and liked what I saw.
I’ve saw 2 bullet failures in 7mm.
First being 162 Amax out of a 7 WSM. Completely came apart on 2 different white tails. Total of 5 shots, all what I consider very bad performance. One on a shoulder at 130ish yards, one on a shoulder between 75 and 100, and the rest behind the shoulder. That bullet got a lot of love on here, but based on those 5 I stopped using them.
Second was the 140 AB out of a 7 SAUM. Another that I had read great things about. I changed from my normal 180 Scenar load and found the 140s just as accurate, so decided they “should” be a better elk bullet. Put 3 tight behind the shoulder of a good size cow, right around 100 yards. Almost perfectly broadside. Not a single one made it to offside ribs. For what it’s worth same load has blown through white tails no problem.
Did recover the animals, but absolutely did not like what I saw from those particular bullets. Others I trust on here and in person have had almost complete opposite results, so take that for what it is.
NBTs arent that cool on the web anymore, but that is one bullet that I’ve never had issue with. I use them with complete confidence. Scenars too, I’ve found they dig about like Barnes. I’ve not shot anything with them at high velocity though. Based from info on Nathan Fosters Ballisticstudies.com website, You were likely pushing those 162 grn A-Max's too fast with that 7mm WSM, Maximum recommended muzzle velocity is 2700 fps with 2600 fps MV being ideal for close in shots and out to nearly 500 yds... That's why the ideal cartridges for the 162 grain A-Max (Now known as the ELD-Match) is the 7mm-08 and 7x57 as they tend not to push them too fast...
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Any interest in the 150 ELDX?
I’ve had great success with this bullet on deer, elk, and antelope from a 7mm-08.
I use the 162 in my 7mm Rem Mag, also with great success.
If I had to pick 1 for use in both cartridges it would be the 150.
P Any close range shots (under 100 yards) with this bullet out of the 7-08? Curious how it held up. I shot an Axis buck at 68 yards with my 7-08AI and a 150 grain ELD-X. Deer shifted his onside leg back at the shot, so rather than tucking it right into the pocket, it clipped the lower portion of the shoulder. Deer only went 25 yards before piling up, so not bad there. However, there were bullet fragments all the way back into the gut, which I wasn’t excited about. The main portion of the bullet did exit, but the jacket was still in the chest cavity. Did it kill? Yep. Would I use it again? Yep, but not on an animal I want to keep the meat on. For those, I have switched to 150 grain Nosler ABLR.
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Couple of deer, both Mulies.
Killed them dead, one went straight down, the other staggered maybe 30 yards. Through and through in the lungs. Standard bloodshot, nothing amazing.
Both antelope were blacktail deer sized. Similar results. One was maybe 60 yards, the other 250.
I like the bullet.
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145 lrx . 3245 fps and .85" from my sako 85 7mm rem mg
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NAB first for me, then the NBT.
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It would be NBT or Scenar for me.
Any would likely work, but I’ve seen and personally had success with those 2 and liked what I saw.
I’ve saw 2 bullet failures in 7mm.
First being 162 Amax out of a 7 WSM. Completely came apart on 2 different white tails. Total of 5 shots, all what I consider very bad performance. One on a shoulder at 130ish yards, one on a shoulder between 75 and 100, and the rest behind the shoulder. That bullet got a lot of love on here, but based on those 5 I stopped using them.
Second was the 140 AB out of a 7 SAUM. Another that I had read great things about. I changed from my normal 180 Scenar load and found the 140s just as accurate, so decided they “should” be a better elk bullet. Put 3 tight behind the shoulder of a good size cow, right around 100 yards. Almost perfectly broadside. Not a single one made it to offside ribs. For what it’s worth same load has blown through white tails no problem.
Did recover the animals, but absolutely did not like what I saw from those particular bullets. Others I trust on here and in person have had almost complete opposite results, so take that for what it is.
NBTs arent that cool on the web anymore, but that is one bullet that I’ve never had issue with. I use them with complete confidence. Scenars too, I’ve found they dig about like Barnes. I’ve not shot anything with them at high velocity though. Based from info on Nathan Fosters Ballisticstudies.com website, You were likely pushing those 162 grn A-Max's too fast with that 7mm WSM, Maximum recommended muzzle velocity is 2700 fps with 2600 fps MV being ideal for close in shots and out to nearly 500 yds... That's why the ideal cartridges for the 162 grain A-Max (Now known as the ELD-Match) is the 7mm-08 and 7x57 as they tend not to push them too fast... MV was a tad over 3100 with the A-Max.
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Couple of deer, both Mulies.
Killed them dead, one went straight down, the other staggered maybe 30 yards. Through and through in the lungs. Standard bloodshot, nothing amazing.
Both antelope were blacktail deer sized. Similar results. One was maybe 60 yards, the other 250.
I like the bullet.
P Thanks, Pharm…and HandgunHTR, for the info.
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Couple of deer, both Mulies.
Killed them dead, one went straight down, the other staggered maybe 30 yards. Through and through in the lungs. Standard bloodshot, nothing amazing.
Both antelope were blacktail deer sized. Similar results. One was maybe 60 yards, the other 250.
I like the bullet.
P Thanks, Pharm…and HandgunHTR, for the info. Big Game powder in the Mighty-08 gets me 2790 at the muzzle with the 150.
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Any interest in the 150 ELDX?
I’ve had great success with this bullet on deer, elk, and antelope from a 7mm-08.
I use the 162 in my 7mm Rem Mag, also with great success.
If I had to pick 1 for use in both cartridges it would be the 150.
P That’s why I included it. Seen many the picture from you with dead critters from that bullet.
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My vote goes for the 150 NBT, it is tougher than a lot of people think but my question is, why was the 150 gr Nosler Partition left out?
Yes indeed. It's a very tough bullet at 7mm/08, 280, 7x64 velocities.
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