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Re: Russia just broke the back of the West gonehuntin #17131334 04/04/22
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Houston_2 Campfire Outfitter H Joined: Oct 2021 Posts: 10,751 The Magnolia State	Anyone noticed this morning that the gas is still flowing and that Lithuania has shut off Russian gas and now has the options of using it or NGL’s? So much for “breaking the back of the West”.

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Re: Russia just broke the back of the West gonehuntin #17131565 04/04/22
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kappa8 Campfire Regular K Joined: Jul 2020 Posts: 766 S.E. Michigan	Gotta wonder where Soros has parked his money in this deal. He always bets short on currency and exchange rates hedged on political turmoil and regime change. What's the chance he's loading up on rubles?

Re: Russia just broke the back of the West kappa8 #17132047 04/04/22
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Houston_2 Campfire Outfitter H Joined: Oct 2021 Posts: 10,751 The Magnolia State	Originally Posted by kappa8 Gotta wonder where Soros has parked his money in this deal. He always bets short on currency and exchange rates hedged on political turmoil and regime change. What's the chance he's loading up on rubles? You can about bet that his funds are well hedged.

Re: Russia just broke the back of the West gonehuntin #17133227 04/04/22
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Houston_2 Campfire Outfitter H Joined: Oct 2021 Posts: 10,751 The Magnolia State	Germany announces taking over “temporary control of a Gazprom facility “ to insure continual gas flow to Germany. WSJ

Re: Russia just broke the back of the West Houston_2 #17133238 04/04/22
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Fubarski Campfire Outfitter F Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 12,507 KCMO	Originally Posted by Houston_2 Germany announces taking over “temporary control of a Gazprom facility “ to insure continual gas flow to Germany. WSJ Why would they need to take control of a russian gas facility, if gas is still flowing like normal?

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Re: Russia just broke the back of the West Houston_2 #17133240 04/04/22
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irfubar Campfire Ranger Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 20,824 Hollywood	Originally Posted by Houston_2 Germany announces taking over “temporary control of a Gazprom facility “ to insure continual gas flow to Germany. WSJ I always go to the WSJ for accurate reporting.... said no one ever... you are a tool Originally Posted by Judman PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.

Re: Russia just broke the back of the West Fubarski #17133242 04/04/22
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irfubar Campfire Ranger Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 20,824 Hollywood	Originally Posted by Fubarski Originally Posted by Houston_2 Germany announces taking over “temporary control of a Gazprom facility “ to insure continual gas flow to Germany. WSJ Why would they need to take control of a russian gas facility, if gas is still flowing like normal? Wonder if he understands you can cut the flow upstream? Originally Posted by Judman PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.

Re: Russia just broke the back of the West kappa8 #17133258 04/04/22
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ribka Campfire Ranger R Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 24,233 PNW	Originally Posted by kappa8 Gotta wonder where Soros has parked his money in this deal. He always bets short on currency and exchange rates hedged on political turmoil and regime change. What's the chance he's loading up on rubles? of course the uber wealthy Ukraine virtue signaling billionaires are, that's why I loaded up on Gazprom, nilsy, lukoy, Rsx, veon, cee right before global homos shut down trading on the Russian stock market. It's all a big global banking money play to hedge the Russian markets just like when the FSU fell. . Look at Goldman Sachs, jp Morgan, black rock et al The rouble is higher now than before Russia went into East Ukraine. Putin bish slapped Europe and the US when he cut off Europe's energy supplies , HE bought gold and demanded the rouble for future payments. Does Russia have trillions in national debt like the US? lol Last edited by ribka; 04/04/22.

Re: Russia just broke the back of the West irfubar #17133263 04/04/22
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Houston_2 Campfire Outfitter H Joined: Oct 2021 Posts: 10,751 The Magnolia State	Originally Posted by irfubar Originally Posted by Fubarski Originally Posted by Houston_2 Germany announces taking over “temporary control of a Gazprom facility “ to insure continual gas flow to Germany. WSJ Why would they need to take control of a russian gas facility, if gas is still flowing like normal? Wonder if he understands you can cut the flow upstream? Can you two post some sources to the contrary?

Re: Russia just broke the back of the West irfubar #17133265 04/04/22
Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 4,638 E of the Rockies, W of the res... bellydeep Campfire Tracker
bellydeep Campfire Tracker Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 4,638 E of the Rockies, W of the res...	Originally Posted by irfubar Seems Putin has a plan.... and it may be working? https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/escobar-meet-new-resource-based-global-reserve-currency Medvedev said “hellish” Western sanctions not only have failed to cripple Russia, but are instead “returning to the West like a boomerang.” Confidence in reserve currencies is “fading like the morning mist”, and ditching the US dollar and the euro is not unrealistic anymore: “The era of regional currencies is coming If this is such devastating idea, why did Russia wait until now? Could have pulled the lever years ago. I’m betting it’s not so slick as the article suggests. Originally Posted by shrapnel I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle. Originally Posted by JohnBurns I have yet to see anyone claim Leupold has never had to fix an optic. I know I have sent a few back. 2 MK 6s, a VX-6, and 3 VX-111s.

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Re: Russia just broke the back of the West ribka #17133267 04/04/22
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Houston_2 Campfire Outfitter H Joined: Oct 2021 Posts: 10,751 The Magnolia State	Originally Posted by ribka Originally Posted by kappa8 Gotta wonder where Soros has parked his money in this deal. He always bets short on currency and exchange rates hedged on political turmoil and regime change. What's the chance he's loading up on rubles? of course the uber wealthy Ukraine virtue signalers ares are, that's why I loaded up on Gazprom, nilsy, lukoy, Rsx, veon, cee right before global homos shut down trading on the Russian stock market. It's all a big global banking money play to hedge the Russian markets. Look at Goldman Sachs, jp Morgan, black rock Tell us specifically what Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan and Blackrock are doing right now. Share your inside knowledge with us, please.

Re: Russia just broke the back of the West bellydeep #17133274 04/04/22
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ribka Campfire Ranger R Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 24,233 PNW	Originally Posted by bellydeep Originally Posted by irfubar Seems Putin has a plan.... and it may be working? https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/escobar-meet-new-resource-based-global-reserve-currency Medvedev said “hellish” Western sanctions not only have failed to cripple Russia, but are instead “returning to the West like a boomerang.” Confidence in reserve currencies is “fading like the morning mist”, and ditching the US dollar and the euro is not unrealistic anymore: “The era of regional currencies is coming If this is such devastating idea, why did Russia wait until now? Could have pulled the lever years ago. I’m betting it’s not so slick as the article suggests. He didn't have the leverage he has now. Americans play checkers., make decisions based on short term emotional responses. Russia, China, India don't we'll see

Re: Russia just broke the back of the West ribka #17133275 04/04/22
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Houston_2 Campfire Outfitter H Joined: Oct 2021 Posts: 10,751 The Magnolia State	Originally Posted by ribka Originally Posted by kappa8 Gotta wonder where Soros has parked his money in this deal. He always bets short on currency and exchange rates hedged on political turmoil and regime change. What's the chance he's loading up on rubles? of course the uber wealthy Ukraine virtue signaling billionaires are, that's why I loaded up on Gazprom, nilsy, lukoy, Rsx, veon, cee right before global homos shut down trading on the Russian stock market. It's all a big global banking money play to hedge the Russian markets just like when the FSU fell. . Look at Goldman Sachs, jp Morgan, black rock et al The rouble is higher now than before Russia went into East Ukraine. Putin bish slapped Europe and the US when he cut off Europe's energy supplies , HE bought gold and demanded the rouble for future payments. Does Russia have trillions in national debt like the US? lol The gas is still flowing, ribka no matter how many times you say it ain’t. Putin hasn’t cut off energy supplies to Europe. Period. Post up the value of the Ruble vs the usd$ for us.

Re: Russia just broke the back of the West gonehuntin #17133277 04/04/22
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Houston_2 Campfire Outfitter H Joined: Oct 2021 Posts: 10,751 The Magnolia State	France and Germany expelling Russian diplomats in droves. WSJ,,,,again.

Re: Russia just broke the back of the West bellydeep #17133299 04/04/22
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Bristoe Campfire Oracle B Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 79,321	Originally Posted by bellydeep Originally Posted by irfubar Seems Putin has a plan.... and it may be working? https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/escobar-meet-new-resource-based-global-reserve-currency Medvedev said “hellish” Western sanctions not only have failed to cripple Russia, but are instead “returning to the West like a boomerang.” Confidence in reserve currencies is “fading like the morning mist”, and ditching the US dollar and the euro is not unrealistic anymore: “The era of regional currencies is coming If this is such devastating idea, why did Russia wait until now? Could have pulled the lever years ago. I’m betting it’s not so slick as the article suggests. Russia had no reason to pull the lever years ago. Russia wants to sell its natural gas,..to Western Europe or anybody else. The idiots in the American government pushed Russia into the corner and Russia responded the best way it could. Basically, Russia and Western Europe were getting along fine until the American government decided to play its typical games in Ukraine. Now, the people of Western Europe and the U.S.A. are paying the price for the neocons insanity. Only time will tell how big the price is going to be.

Re: Russia just broke the back of the West gonehuntin #17133307 04/04/22
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Houston_2 Campfire Outfitter H Joined: Oct 2021 Posts: 10,751 The Magnolia State	The Hacker collective Anonymous has announced on Twitter that it has hacked into Russia’s system and has released all personal information on 120,000 Russian soldiers. For war crimes purposes? Source, Fortune

Re: Russia just broke the back of the West Houston_2 #17133308 04/04/22
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 79,321 B Bristoe Campfire Oracle
Bristoe Campfire Oracle B Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 79,321	Originally Posted by Houston_2 The Hacker collective Anonymous has announced on Twitter that it has hacked into Russia’s system and has released all personal information on 120,000 Russian soldiers. For war crimes purposes? Source, Fortune Curious,....who is the editor of "Fortune"?

Re: Russia just broke the back of the West Bristoe #17133309 04/04/22
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Houston_2 Campfire Outfitter H Joined: Oct 2021 Posts: 10,751 The Magnolia State	Originally Posted by Bristoe Originally Posted by bellydeep Originally Posted by irfubar Seems Putin has a plan.... and it may be working? https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/escobar-meet-new-resource-based-global-reserve-currency Medvedev said “hellish” Western sanctions not only have failed to cripple Russia, but are instead “returning to the West like a boomerang.” Confidence in reserve currencies is “fading like the morning mist”, and ditching the US dollar and the euro is not unrealistic anymore: “The era of regional currencies is coming If this is such devastating idea, why did Russia wait until now? Could have pulled the lever years ago. I’m betting it’s not so slick as the article suggests. Russia had no reason to pull the lever years ago. Russia wants to sell its natural gas,..to Western Europe or anybody else. The idiots in the American government pushed Russia into the corner and Russia responded the best way it could. Basically, Russia and Western Europe were getting along fine until the American government decided to play its typical games in Ukraine. Now, the people of Western Europe and the U.S.A. are paying the price for the neocons insanity. Only time will tell how big the price is going to be. And Putin was “pushed into “ Georgia and the Crimea.

Re: Russia just broke the back of the West Bristoe #17133312 04/04/22
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Houston_2 Campfire Outfitter H Joined: Oct 2021 Posts: 10,751 The Magnolia State	Originally Posted by Bristoe Originally Posted by Houston_2 The Hacker collective Anonymous has announced on Twitter that it has hacked into Russia’s system and has released all personal information on 120,000 Russian soldiers. For war crimes purposes? Source, Fortune Curious,....who is the editor of "Fortune"? More curious might be who The Hacker collective Anonymous is run by.

Re: Russia just broke the back of the West Houston_2 #17133320 04/04/22
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 79,321 B Bristoe Campfire Oracle
Bristoe Campfire Oracle B Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 79,321	Originally Posted by Houston_2 Originally Posted by Bristoe Originally Posted by bellydeep Originally Posted by irfubar Seems Putin has a plan.... and it may be working? https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/escobar-meet-new-resource-based-global-reserve-currency Medvedev said “hellish” Western sanctions not only have failed to cripple Russia, but are instead “returning to the West like a boomerang.” Confidence in reserve currencies is “fading like the morning mist”, and ditching the US dollar and the euro is not unrealistic anymore: “The era of regional currencies is coming If this is such devastating idea, why did Russia wait until now? Could have pulled the lever years ago. I’m betting it’s not so slick as the article suggests. Russia had no reason to pull the lever years ago. Russia wants to sell its natural gas,..to Western Europe or anybody else. The idiots in the American government pushed Russia into the corner and Russia responded the best way it could. Basically, Russia and Western Europe were getting along fine until the American government decided to play its typical games in Ukraine. Now, the people of Western Europe and the U.S.A. are paying the price for the neocons insanity. Only time will tell how big the price is going to be. And Putin was “pushed into “ Georgia and the Crimea. Georgia attacked South Ossetia. If you don't understand that the Crimea is populated by cultural Russians who have been persecuted by Ukranians for years, you really don't understand enough about the situation to even have an opinion on it.

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