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J P SAUER Drilling, 12/12/30-30 #17152997 04/11/22
Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 3,624 South Mississippi F Fanofthefortyone OP Campfire Tracker
OP Fanofthefortyone Campfire Tracker F Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 3,624 South Mississippi	JP Sauer Drilling 2-1/2” chambers 12-12/30-30 I bought this here on the fire and have enjoyed it. Have not had it out now in a few years so it’s time to move it on. Sauer Drilling with 28” barrels, 12 gauge with 2-1/2 chambers on top and a handy 30-30 rifle barrel underneath. Also included Is 32 nosler partition (16333) 170 grain & 80 Sierra (2010) 170 grain flat nose and a box of 50 hornady brass . I also have 4 boxes of #7 and 3 boxes +15 #6 for this. Drilling will ship FFL to FFL, brass and bullets USPS and ammunition UPS. $1950.00 shipped and insured. Thanks for looking, Ronnie

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Re: J P SAUER Drilling, 12/12/30-30 Fanofthefortyone #17153308 04/11/22
Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 60,167 Likes: 16 Banana Belt, Montana M Mule Deer Campfire Kahuna
Mule Deer Campfire Kahuna M Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 60,167 Likes: 16 Banana Belt, Montana	I recognize that drilling! Had it for several years, and killed a bunch of game with it, both deer and birds from doves to ducks. When I had it, it shot typical 170-grain .30-30 factory ammo an inch or two above the front bead at 100 yards, both with the open rear sight and the tang aperture. “Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.” John Steinbeck

Re: J P SAUER Drilling, 12/12/30-30 Fanofthefortyone #17153334 04/11/22
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Grumman Campfire Member G Joined: Aug 2016 Posts: 426 Kentucky	That's a neat piece. Any idea when it was made?

Re: J P SAUER Drilling, 12/12/30-30 Fanofthefortyone #17153375 04/11/22
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OP Fanofthefortyone Campfire Tracker F Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 3,624 South Mississippi	John , thought you might recognize it! Nice shooter just time for it a new home. Grumman, not sure when it was made, John might know. Ronnie

Re: J P SAUER Drilling, 12/12/30-30 Fanofthefortyone #17153471 04/11/22
Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 60,167 Likes: 16 Banana Belt, Montana M Mule Deer Campfire Kahuna
Mule Deer Campfire Kahuna M Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 60,167 Likes: 16 Banana Belt, Montana	As far as I could determine it was made around 1900-1910. The deal was the original Charles Daly firm, which back then was an importing firm on New York City, made a deal with J.P. Sauer to make some drillings in typical American chamberings, including 12-gauge rather than the pretty much standard 16-gauge for drillings in Europe. If I recall correctly, the other rifle cartridges ranged from .25-35 to .45-70. I bought it from a friend in Great Falls, who allowed me to shoot it with factory Federal 170-grain .30-30 ammo beforehand--which as noted earlier landed a little above the front bead at 100 yards. This wasn't surprising, since the standard .30-30 factory loads back then often used 160-170 grain bullets at close to the same velocity. It was a little loose when I bought it, so had Briley in Houston tighten it up, which worked great. “Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.” John Steinbeck

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Re: J P SAUER Drilling, 12/12/30-30 Fanofthefortyone #17153515 04/11/22
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Grumman Campfire Member G Joined: Aug 2016 Posts: 426 Kentucky	Thank you Mule Deer for the background info that is interesting. The wood grain looks good on it also. I hope it finds a buyer soon.

Re: J P SAUER Drilling, 12/12/30-30 Mule Deer #17154294 04/11/22
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 28,172 Here Or There luv2safari Campfire Ranger
luv2safari Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 28,172 Here Or There	Originally Posted by Mule Deer As far as I could determine it was made around 1900-1910. The deal was the original Charles Daly firm, which back then was an importing firm on New York City, made a deal with J.P. Sauer to make some drillings in typical American chamberings, including 12-gauge rather than the pretty much standard 16-gauge for drillings in Europe. If I recall correctly, the other rifle cartridges ranged from .25-35 to .45-70. I bought it from a friend in Great Falls, who allowed me to shoot it with factory Federal 170-grain .30-30 ammo beforehand--which as noted earlier landed a little above the front bead at 100 yards. This wasn't surprising, since the standard .30-30 factory loads back then often used 160-170 grain bullets at close to the same velocity. It was a little loose when I bought it, so had Briley in Houston tighten it up, which worked great. Good information, John. A real common rifle round in the early Daly drillings was 38-55, right in that range. Starting about 1909 they imported Sauer sidelock/side-cock drillings, and some 16 gauge guns on a smaller frame came across to us. I had a 16/30-30 that was a great drilling, so I sold it. I've handled this gun, and it's a good sound drilling. Hunt with Class and Classics Religion: A founder of The Church of Spray and Pray Acquit v. t. To render a judgment in a murder case in San Francisco... EQUAL, adj. As bad as something else. Ambrose Bierce “The Devil's Dictionary”

Re: J P SAUER Drilling, 12/12/30-30 Fanofthefortyone #17156514 04/12/22
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OP Fanofthefortyone Campfire Tracker F Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 3,624 South Mississippi	7 pounds 8 ounces

Re: J P SAUER Drilling, 12/12/30-30 Fanofthefortyone #17157764 04/13/22
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shrapnel Campfire Ranger Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 24,613 Likes: 22 Bozeman, MT	Are the 2 1/2 inch shells included with the gun, or will you sell them separately?

Re: J P SAUER Drilling, 12/12/30-30 Fanofthefortyone #17157991 04/13/22
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OP Fanofthefortyone Campfire Tracker F Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 3,624 South Mississippi	With the gun until it sells. If the buyer of the gun does not want them I’ll sell them separately. Ronnie

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Re: J P SAUER Drilling, 12/12/30-30 Fanofthefortyone #17159141 04/13/22
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Bugger Campfire Outfitter Joined: May 2014 Posts: 10,452 Likes: 2 NE South Dakota	nice I prefer classic. Semper Fi I used to run with the hare. Now I'm envious of the tortoise and I do my own stunts but rarely intentionally

Re: J P SAUER Drilling, 12/12/30-30 Fanofthefortyone #17160145 04/13/22
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OP Fanofthefortyone Campfire Tracker F Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 3,624 South Mississippi	Everything is SPF! Ronnie

Re: J P SAUER Drilling, 12/12/30-30 Fanofthefortyone #17162488 04/14/22
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 28,172 Here Or There luv2safari Campfire Ranger
luv2safari Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 28,172 Here Or There	Good snag for a fun drilling with all that ammo and components! Hunt with Class and Classics Religion: A founder of The Church of Spray and Pray Acquit v. t. To render a judgment in a murder case in San Francisco... EQUAL, adj. As bad as something else. Ambrose Bierce “The Devil's Dictionary”

Re: J P SAUER Drilling, 12/12/30-30 Fanofthefortyone #17162525 04/14/22
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OP Fanofthefortyone Campfire Tracker F Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 3,624 South Mississippi	I’m betting he will enjoy it! Ronnie

Re: J P SAUER Drilling, 12/12/30-30 Fanofthefortyone #17162606 04/14/22
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Mule Deer Campfire Kahuna M Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 60,167 Likes: 16 Banana Belt, Montana	I am too! “Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.” John Steinbeck

Re: J P SAUER Drilling, 12/12/30-30 Fanofthefortyone #17162771 04/14/22
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Mufasa Campfire Greenhorn M Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 44 Black Hills of SD	Oh I KNOW that I will! 😎👍🏼🎉🎉

Re: J P SAUER Drilling, 12/12/30-30 Fanofthefortyone #17173508 04/18/22
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OP Fanofthefortyone Campfire Tracker F Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 3,624 South Mississippi	SOLD!

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