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I'm a cheap skate so I use found .223 and 5.56 brass. I also use RCBS dies. And, I also bought a bag of 50 depriming pins. I occasionally get one of those pieces of brass that has the tiny flash hole (pink water sealer) and I will occasionally break a depriming pin. If I find them in time, I toss them into my recycle bucket just to avoid the broken pins.
In the process of getting the found brass ready to use I swage any primer pockets that need swaging and I drill out the primer holes to .081" along with sorting and trimming the brass to length. Doing all of this fixes any problems for future use. I have fired the same brass up to 3 times. Most of it looks good for one or 2 more times before it ends up in the recycle bucket.
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For liberals and anarchists, power and control is opium, selling envy is the fastest and easiest way to get it. TRR. American conservative. Never trust a white liberal. Malcom X Current NRA member.
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I'm new to reloading 223/5.56 but have found that brass with a headstamp of "SAR 20 5.56x45" as a VERY small flash hole and will break my de-priming pin. I have only ran across 10~15 out of 1000 cases that I purchased, but still I have to sort through each piece of brass and either pull those with the SAR headstamp or look down in the case with a light at the size of the flash hole. I can't find any information on these cases via a Google search. I'm trying to decide if I'm going to purchase a flash hole deburring tool to enlarge the flash hole so my de-priming pin will work with them or just chuck them in my bad brass bucket.
Thoughts?
Thanks in advance,
-Jeff Jeff, have you read through this thread? You know what my suggestion is. How much is your time worth? Its not about having "buckets of brass either". That's the dumbest fu cking comment, as there is so much brass of .556/.223 rem flavor laying out on the ground, always, that a person never has to worry about finding brass for an AR. Damn, the last time I was at the range I could have picked up a 1,000+ pieces laying on the gravel. Its not worth my time or effort anymore, but it may be worth yours? Some guys get off on collecting buckets of brass. I have better things to do with my time. YMMV... If you are new to realoading, my best suggestion is to keep it simple. If you don't like bending/breaking your decapping pin be selective as to what brass you use. Toss the other chidt in the scrap bin. IF you do pick up brass from the range, learn what is good and what is crap. Nothing wrong with using range pick up brass either, just be selective and it will save you a lot of headache.. Looking forward to more pics of your brass resizing tips….lol
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I posted of breaking/bending decapping pins on 5.56 brass similar to yours a while back and eventually learned they have a smaller than normal flash hole. It is kind of fooling as some of the primers will extract with more a bit more force than the norm but others will result in damaged or broken equipment. In those few that I was able to remove the primer, the new primer seated with normal force.
I determined this by hydraulically removing a primer on a case and tried inserting a drill bit that was a snug fit in a different case. The bit was too big to pass through the hole in the suspect case. That bag of brass ended up in the scrap bin. It was a test of one piece of brass but it was enough for me. When I have issues like that with brass, I just toss it. There are 1,000's of other better brass laying on the ground at the range that will work better. Just how I see it. Not worth the hassle IMHO..
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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I'm new to reloading 223/5.56 but have found that brass with a headstamp of "SAR 20 5.56x45" as a VERY small flash hole and will break my de-priming pin. I have only ran across 10~15 out of 1000 cases that I purchased, but still I have to sort through each piece of brass and either pull those with the SAR headstamp or look down in the case with a light at the size of the flash hole. I can't find any information on these cases via a Google search. I'm trying to decide if I'm going to purchase a flash hole deburring tool to enlarge the flash hole so my de-priming pin will work with them or just chuck them in my bad brass bucket.
Thoughts?
Thanks in advance,
-Jeff Jeff, have you read through this thread? You know what my suggestion is. How much is your time worth? Its not about having "buckets of brass either". That's the dumbest fu cking comment, as there is so much brass of .556/.223 rem flavor laying out on the ground, always, that a person never has to worry about finding brass for an AR. Damn, the last time I was at the range I could have picked up a 1,000+ pieces laying on the gravel. Its not worth my time or effort anymore, but it may be worth yours? Some guys get off on collecting buckets of brass. I have better things to do with my time. YMMV... If you are new to realoading, my best suggestion is to keep it simple. If you don't like bending/breaking your decapping pin be selective as to what brass you use. Toss the other chidt in the scrap bin. IF you do pick up brass from the range, learn what is good and what is crap. Nothing wrong with using range pick up brass either, just be selective and it will save you a lot of headache.. Looking forward to more pics of your brass resizing tips….lol You are a slow learner and stupid fu ck. Time would be wasted showing you anything.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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I'm new to reloading 223/5.56 but have found that brass with a headstamp of "SAR 20 5.56x45" as a VERY small flash hole and will break my de-priming pin. I have only ran across 10~15 out of 1000 cases that I purchased, but still I have to sort through each piece of brass and either pull those with the SAR headstamp or look down in the case with a light at the size of the flash hole. I can't find any information on these cases via a Google search. I'm trying to decide if I'm going to purchase a flash hole deburring tool to enlarge the flash hole so my de-priming pin will work with them or just chuck them in my bad brass bucket.
Thoughts?
Thanks in advance,
-Jeff Jeff, have you read through this thread? You know what my suggestion is. How much is your time worth? Its not about having "buckets of brass either". That's the dumbest fu cking comment, as there is so much brass of .556/.223 rem flavor laying out on the ground, always, that a person never has to worry about finding brass for an AR. Damn, the last time I was at the range I could have picked up a 1,000+ pieces laying on the gravel. Its not worth my time or effort anymore, but it may be worth yours? Some guys get off on collecting buckets of brass. I have better things to do with my time. YMMV... If you are new to realoading, my best suggestion is to keep it simple. If you don't like bending/breaking your decapping pin be selective as to what brass you use. Toss the other chidt in the scrap bin. IF you do pick up brass from the range, learn what is good and what is crap. Nothing wrong with using range pick up brass either, just be selective and it will save you a lot of headache.. I won't pass up free brass EVER. Those that do are the ones will get caught with pants down at some point in the future. I've been around this so long that sooner or later every case and size I've collected has come in handy at some point. Even if just for fire forming something else. That said for accuracy one should go through each piece of brass and work it some to clean stuff up so that would be normal for us even with known brass. Maybe I'd trust Lapua. But with cost of Lapua and availability of other brands that work as well we choose not to for the AR. Some of us have time, some money. Rare to have both. Some have to simply pick and choose. Even if I don't use the brass I'll pick it up. Its a shame I don't have a range to go to I guess. OTOH having your own range to 600 plus isn't a bad thing... but no free brass laying all over the place.
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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I'm new to reloading 223/5.56 but have found that brass with a headstamp of "SAR 20 5.56x45" as a VERY small flash hole and will break my de-priming pin. I have only ran across 10~15 out of 1000 cases that I purchased, but still I have to sort through each piece of brass and either pull those with the SAR headstamp or look down in the case with a light at the size of the flash hole. I can't find any information on these cases via a Google search. I'm trying to decide if I'm going to purchase a flash hole deburring tool to enlarge the flash hole so my de-priming pin will work with them or just chuck them in my bad brass bucket.
Thoughts?
Thanks in advance,
-Jeff Jeff, have you read through this thread? You know what my suggestion is. How much is your time worth? Its not about having "buckets of brass either". That's the dumbest fu cking comment, as there is so much brass of .556/.223 rem flavor laying out on the ground, always, that a person never has to worry about finding brass for an AR. Damn, the last time I was at the range I could have picked up a 1,000+ pieces laying on the gravel. Its not worth my time or effort anymore, but it may be worth yours? Some guys get off on collecting buckets of brass. I have better things to do with my time. YMMV... If you are new to realoading, my best suggestion is to keep it simple. If you don't like bending/breaking your decapping pin be selective as to what brass you use. Toss the other chidt in the scrap bin. IF you do pick up brass from the range, learn what is good and what is crap. Nothing wrong with using range pick up brass either, just be selective and it will save you a lot of headache.. Looking forward to more pics of your brass resizing tips….lol You are a slow learner and stupid fu ck. Time would be wasted showing you anything. Ah come on..post them for the benefit of the other members…lol
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