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Well, I have used the Cutting edge mth bullet with some success. They are costly and a little fussy keeping the hollow point open in hunting conditions.
Without a fully open h.p. the bullet won't work as designed.
I have not tried the cheaper maximus, I understand it works better in field conditions.
Anyone, give it a go?

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Nope, but have used the Raptors, which work very well on game.


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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
Nope, but have used the Raptors, which work very well on game.

Good morning John, I have not tried the Raptors, they are really costly and the last name ain't Rockefeller..
Could you do a piece on the Cutting Edge Maximus bullet? Just wondering

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I might be able to. Haven't been in contact with Cutting Edge for a while, but could see if they'd send some samples.


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Originally Posted by comerade
Well, I have used the Cutting edge mth bullet with some success. They are costly and a little fussy keeping the hollow point open in hunting conditions.
Without a fully open h.p. the bullet won't work as designed.
I have not tried the cheaper maximus, I understand it works better in field conditions.
Anyone, give it a go?


Hammer bullets are all copper that blows the front of of the bullet and they are deadly. Easiest bullet I have ever worked up a load for.

The petals radiate outward and then follow the shank for a devastating wound channel. They are accurate and deadly In my experience which is with the 35 Whelen



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Cutting Edge Bullets are pricy but the best bullet to use hunting....but really how many bullets do you shoot sighting in your gun and game animals....

If your smart you find a bullet that shoots the same as a Cutting Edge Bullet use them to do your target shooting and then use the CEB's on game.....

There's no bullet made that will perform as good as Cutting Edge Bullets....

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Originally Posted by coyotewacker

There's no bullet made that will perform as good as Cutting Edge Bullets....



I tend to disagree with this statement I rate the Hammer bullet ahead of the Cutting Edge Bullet.

The Raptor in the 45 ACP is in my opinion and experience next to useless.

The damage Hammer bullets do have to be seen to be believe. Plus they are super accurate



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Originally Posted by coyotewacker

There's no bullet made that will perform as good as Cutting Edge Bullets....



I tend to disagree with this statement I rate the Hammer bullet ahead of the Cutting Edge Bullet.

The Raptor in the 45 ACP is in my opinion and experience next to useless.

The damage Hammer bullets do have to be seen to be believe. Plus they are super accurate

In my Pre-64 FWT .358 Win, I like the 178 Hammer more than the equivalent CEB. Bullets are sleeker, seat out farther and are devastating on WT's.

Both CEB and Hammer are really accurate in that gun.

I'd lean toward Hammer, at least in that limited experience.

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Originally Posted by coyotewacker
Cutting Edge Bullets are pricy but the best bullet to use hunting....but really how many bullets do you shoot sighting in your gun and game animals....

If your smart you find a bullet that shoots the same as a Cutting Edge Bullet use them to do your target shooting and then use the CEB's on game.....

There's no bullet made that will perform as good as Cutting Edge Bullets....


Must admit that I'm always somewhat astounded when somebody proclaims a particular bullet the very best. Or a cartridge, rifle, scope, etc. This is because there around 1000 dead big game animals in the hunting notes I've kept for over 50 years now.

But whatever....


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I concurr, Mule Deer.
I became interested in C.E. stuff because Of the information I got from the GS Custom's product of South Africa.
I think GSCustom was the inspiration for CE.
Both are cnc machined, both use the bore rider concept( only the rifling grooves engage the ring)
Gs Custom , have quite a bit of info available and share it freely
As a Canadian, we must order from S.A. , C.E. has a dealer in Canada and so far ,Hammer does not.
I am thinking of ordering some CE .277 Maximus bullets . It is a spring thing, I just try something new.
My default bullet is the Nosler Partition.
For your info , Canadan customs have no issue bringing in components from the US of A

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Personally I am a Hammer fan. Met some reps from cutting edge at a show, and the person talking to me was the most rude, snobby, and just terrible person to talk to. Had some questions and they pretty much blew me off. Granted, they were probably tired of talking to people, but gotta show some respect to people. I had an open mind about their bullet, was considering trying some. After that experience I said no Cutting Edge bullet will ever go down one of my gun barrels. Talking to the guys at hammer was a breath of fresh air. It is basic customer service 101, but that is why I shoot Hammers and not Cutting Edge.


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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
Originally Posted by coyotewacker
Cutting Edge Bullets are pricy but the best bullet to use hunting....but really how many bullets do you shoot sighting in your gun and game animals....

If your smart you find a bullet that shoots the same as a Cutting Edge Bullet use them to do your target shooting and then use the CEB's on game.....

There's no bullet made that will perform as good as Cutting Edge Bullets....


Must admit that I'm always somewhat astounded when somebody proclaims a particular bullet the very best. Or a cartridge, rifle, scope, etc. This is because there around 1000 dead big game animals in the hunting notes I've kept for over 50 years now.

But whatever....


I almost commented earlier. Last year I sort of rushed into a north Texas whitetail hunt and had a newly acquired 308 Win (Mauser M12) I wanted to use but no time for handloads. I swung by my LGS and they had 150 gr Federal blue box. I bought two, sighted the rifle in and killed a decent buck with that dated Power Shok bullet.

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Good deal, Ed

Hard to argue with that.

But, us Loonies just gotta split hairs and ruminate over loads and guns. To not do so could well negate Loony credentials.

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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
Originally Posted by coyotewacker
Cutting Edge Bullets are pricy but the best bullet to use hunting....but really how many bullets do you shoot sighting in your gun and game animals....

If your smart you find a bullet that shoots the same as a Cutting Edge Bullet use them to do your target shooting and then use the CEB's on game.....

There's no bullet made that will perform as good as Cutting Edge Bullets....


Must admit that I'm always somewhat astounded when somebody proclaims a particular bullet the very best. Or a cartridge, rifle, scope, etc. This is because there around 1000 dead big game animals in the hunting notes I've kept for over 50 years now.

But whatever....



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SKane,

Thanks for the heads-up!


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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Good deal, Ed

Hard to argue with that.

But, us Loonies just gotta split hairs and ruminate over loads and guns. To not do so could well negate Loony credentials.

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Originally Posted by Jevyod
Personally I am a Hammer fan. Met some reps from cutting edge at a show, and the person talking to me was the most rude, snobby, and just terrible person to talk to. Had some questions and they pretty much blew me off. Granted, they were probably tired of talking to people, but gotta show some respect to people. I had an open mind about their bullet, was considering trying some. After that experience I said no Cutting Edge bullet will ever go down one of my gun barrels. Talking to the guys at hammer was a breath of fresh air. It is basic customer service 101, but that is why I shoot Hammers and not Cutting Edge.


Just tested some 103-grain Hammer Hunters in my NULA .257 Weatherby for an upcoming article in HANDLOADER. Was very impressed with the accuracy, andhave heard great things about their on-game performance. Will be "field-testing" some this year.

One of the great things about Hammers is they're actually available during this most recent "shortage." The bulllet I have been using for years in the NULA is the 100-grain Nosler E-Tip--but just try find any now. I ordered the Hammers from their website and they showed up in two days, partly because they're also in Montana.


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I bought a box of .308 Raptor 130 to try in my .30-06 on the recommendation of a member here but they were horizontally off on point of impact by several inches at 200yards compared to the 180 SST and 180 Speer RN I was using to shoot hogs with. But they grouped very accurately. I found a home for them in a left hand .308W Tikka that is being assigned to my recoil sensitive grand daughter. I found that rifle to shoot to just about the same point of aim out to 200 yards believe it or not with factory 150 SST and a load I made with 125 Nosler Ballistic tip. The Raptor and Ballistic Tip are soft loaded with 37 grains of H4895 to encourage no more deer hunting with the .223.

This particular Tikka Stainless belongs to my son in law and is as accurate as any rifle in the family and we haven't found a load it won't shoot.


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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
Originally Posted by Jevyod
Personally I am a Hammer fan. Met some reps from cutting edge at a show, and the person talking to me was the most rude, snobby, and just terrible person to talk to. Had some questions and they pretty much blew me off. Granted, they were probably tired of talking to people, but gotta show some respect to people. I had an open mind about their bullet, was considering trying some. After that experience I said no Cutting Edge bullet will ever go down one of my gun barrels. Talking to the guys at hammer was a breath of fresh air. It is basic customer service 101, but that is why I shoot Hammers and not Cutting Edge.


Just tested some 103-grain Hammer Hunters in my NULA .257 Weatherby for an upcoming article in HANDLOADER. Was very impressed with the accuracy, andhave heard great things about their on-game performance. Will be "field-testing" some this year.

One of the great things about Hammers is they're actually available during this most recent "shortage." The bulllet I have been using for years in the NULA is the 100-grain Nosler E-Tip--but just try find any now. I ordered the Hammers from their website and they showed up in two days, partly because they're also in Montana.


Any chance you're also going to try the .257 95gn Badlands projectile?


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Maybe--eventually. Unfortunately I had a deadline, without enough time to test the Badlands bullets too. One of the "problems" with being a gun writer today is so many new bullets/powders/cartridges etc. are always appearing.

Around 15-20 years ago was assigned by the editor of the now-defunct VARMINT HUNTER magazine to both range- and field-test every available varmint bullet. He may have limited it to .224" bullets, but can't remember.

I gave it a try, partly because several of my .224-caliber varmint rifles would shoot just about any bullet to the same point-of-impact at 100 yards. Did a LOT of range and varmint shooting over a year before writing the article--during which several more bullets were introduced. All I could come up with was some general principles, such as that plastic-tipped bullets not only shoot noticeably flatter and drifted less in the wind beyond about 150 yards, no matter the cartridge, but expanded more violently at much longer ranges.

Unfortunately, doing the same sort of "field-testing" with big game bullets is even more difficult. I have tested a lot of big game bullets not only on animals but in various kinds of "media," which can provide a reasonable comparison of field results, but to tell the truth this has started resembling my "research" into the varmint bullets. Eventually I concluded that there are a LOT of good bullets out there these days--but anymore do not have enough desire or time to attempt to test ALL of them, in every way.

This is partly because so many "new" bullets resemble other bullets already available.


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