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Tell that to a Jack Russell.

Huh. Mine certainly don't fit either part of that description. But I've only owned Labs for 52 years and been breeding them for 20 years so..




That's a fact! Neighbors two doors up drove from Western Oregon to Central Utah to buy a labradoodle, It was the result of an unplanned mating. They spent 3,000 bucks on it.. No papers, no health clearances, no titles, etc. Being generous, it really is one of the dumbest animals I have ever witnessed. However judging from some of the other responses here it seems that other owners are very happy with theirs, so perhaps my neighbor's dog is an exception.

I've had Labs and Lab -mixes (never with a poodle!) for over 50 years. Never had any that were fat , nor dumb. I do admit that Grizzly had me fooled for a year or so when we first got him, then he blew it on the smarts part. We were his 3rd owner, and he was 3 when we got him, and it turned out he just didn't believe in following commands, tho he knew them all (each previous owner put him through obedience school).

After 10 days in a commercial kennel in Fairbanks while we were in Cabo, he suddenly knew and followed all those commands on our return. Like turning a light switch on! . He apparently decided we actually were his family, and wasn't taking a chance on getting again abandoned by us. He was for companion, but turned into a fair hunter as well. Nailed blind retrieves in 3 lessons.


My current rescue Honey HalfLab may not be Lab at all - could be Gold Ret. instead. Worst shedding dog we have ever had, and I thought the last full Lab was bad! Plus she has village sled dog, probably with some whippet in her. Some day I may have her genes tested, but probably not. At first I thought she was a bit on the stupid side, but it was just ignorance on both our parts. She just wasn't able to experience or learn much for the first 18 months of her life on the end of a chain, but boy did she catch on fast!!!. With my first and last full Labs, she is in the top 3 for smarts of all the dogs I've had. Spayed, but she isn't getting fat. Food portioning, which she is adamantly against, and 2 mile minimum daily walks (she insists!) see to that.

There is a saying: "If your dog is getting fat, you aren't getting enough exercise!"

Poodles.... were bred originally as hunting dogs, water and field, and good ones at that. Some still are- most have been turned into lap/cool-decorator pedigreed mutts.

My wife just returned from visiting cousins in AZ. One cuz has a rescue mini-poodle which has lost one eye and one ear. On getting a new stuffed animal, the dog immediately chews off one eye and one ear. Then he is happy with it.

I find that fascinating!

An acquaintance when we were in Kotzebue spent $3000 on a Labradoodle for the non-shedding quality. Well, that's only a 75% crap shoot. He got the 25 % pile of shedding fur. LMAO!

I've seen a well trained few................compared the abundance of them since they became popular "pets".......................very few.

We have very well trained whippets...............................................until they see something the just have to chase.....................and that's a common behavior for the breed which apparently no training can conquer

Hybridization is almost always a good thing...if the parent subjects are good.

Lot of the poodles in Chicago Indy and Baltimore seem to be problematic.

Are you sure it's not your neighbors?

Some folks just can't seem to train a dog....................or keep them in shape........................and they end up with fat dumb dogs..........designer breed or not.

Oh no, I'm certain the owners in this case are an important contributor to the dogs outcome! A liberal professor...

Cross a pitbull and and a whippet and you get a jrt.
Fact.

Liberals believe in discussions with misbehaving children and dogs, not active training and disciple.

The results never vary, and they just can't get it.

Oh my, not one of those...........we'll let the dog decide what it wants to do types?

What's a jrt?

Jack Russell Terrier

Nailed it! I can't stand to be around the animal. It's either always licking your hands or jumping up on you

Geno,
How do the whippets fair when after a jackrabbit?

Ah!

Anyone who compares a pudelpointer with a labradoodle is talking out their caboose and it smells.

Depends on how smart the rabbit is?

When we lived in AZ our mixed breed (Val) and my wife's first whippet (Jasmine) got after one. Rabbit ran up the bank out of the draw we were in, got over the crest a bit, jogged hard right...........whippet was hot on its trail but flew up over the crest of the bank as the rabbit was coming back down 20 yards or so from where it went up. Jasmine came back to the edge and was looking around like....."What the hell?"

Big enough, open enough field, especially with a few dogs, the jack might be in serious trouble. Jasmine and Val used to tag team squirrels in the stormwater settling basins when wife lived in the Valley. More than one thought they were smarter, and faster and ended up a chew toy. Probably the squirrels were used to fat Labradors chasing them.

Same goes for comparing the doodles to a poodle from hunting lines.

My daughter and SIL have a labradoodle that looks pretty much like this dog. It is a retrieving rocket, and though my SIL is not a hunter, I’m pretty sure it would make a very good flusher; he obviously got the “go-get-it” gene.