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Some of you may have seen the Your favorite 1911, bar none ... thread. Lots of great info there about various 1911's.

That thread was the result of my desire for a full-size Government 1911, my frustration with the California Approved Handgun roster and the choices available, and my decision to spend a few bucks and get a "one-and-done" full-size 1911 in .45 ACP. Obviously, I consulted the collective wisdom of the Campfire Handgun forum. There were LOTS of votes for a Les Baer. Truth is, I was leaning that way anyway ...

But that thread was long, and varied. Indeed, it was months between the time I decided on what to buy and actually taking delivery, and some of my follow-up posts in that thread may have been lost.

So this thread is intended to focus on ONE Les Baer Premier II. Mine.

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Please pardon the repetition as I copy and paste a couple of posts from that thread here, as I want to establish a comprehensive thread regarding this pistol, and as I update you on today's results, and results to come:



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APRIL 10, 2022 - DELIVERY DAY!

Originally Posted by skeen
C'mon, Bin, it's been almost 3 months.

Don't leave us in suspense, what'd ya' buy?


Haha. Nice call.

Keep in mind, we have to deal with our infamous 10-day wait here, otherwise known as “Cali jail” ... meaning that it takes a while for the 1911 gods to deliver here ...

So, I am happy to report that I FINALLY I took possession of a Les Baer Premier II (1.5 inch guarantee) the day before yesterday, and promptly took it to the range and put 325 rounds of factory 230 FMJ RN through it.


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At the range.



REPORT:

As delivered:

Gun is tight, as is to be expected. Zero, and I mean zero rattle. Trigger is very good, but not great - I’d rate it an 8.5/10 (a bit of creep), safety is stiff, checkering on grips and front strap feels aggressive, ambi safety actually pretty well done ... very unobnoxious on the starboard side (I was expecting to change it out, but I am going to keep it as is).


First firing:

Started with the included Tripp mags, and it cycled fine. Moved on to Wilson Combat ETM’s, and for 10 mags in a row, the gun would fire 6 rounds and hiccup on the 7th: failure to go completely into battery. I was a little miffed/concerned, but then did a few factory Colt 7-rounders and it cycled them fine. Pretty clear it was a mag issue.

Impressions: Gun is very, very accurate. Once I got the hold figured out, I was banging steel at 35 yards keeping multiple targets moving so much I sometimes had to wait for one to stop swinging.

I don’t shoot pistols that well !

OK, so that was 100. I CLP’ed the rails and the bushing/barrel, loaded up my mags, and went for round two.

Round two:

It cycled everything, worked 100%. No hiccups. Steel kept swinging. Grinning.

That’s 200 rounds. CLP applied again.

Round three:

100% function. Still grinnin'.

grin

300 rounds.

At this point I changed ammo and shot another 1911 I had brought ... a Colt LW Commander to which I had recently added a Wilson beaver tail grip safety. The new ammo was Blazer 230 grain with aluminum casings, and one thing became apparent very quickly ... the LW kicks a WHOLE lot more.

I decided 25 was enough to test function on the Colt, and went back and put the last 25 through the Baer again with Wilson mags. MUCH nicer to shoot.

100% function. grin


INTERIM REPORT: 325 rounds fired.

I am very happy with the gun so far.

As stated, it is very, very accurate.

As expected/promised, the gun was (and still is) very tight, but functioned 100% with provided Tripp mags, and also with various Colt/Dan Wesson 7-round mags.

Shooting it in quickly ironed out the hiccup with the Wilson mags. To repeat, the first time through, ALL 10 Wilson ET mags hiccuped at the 7th round in exactly the same way. The second and third time through (and the fourth for a few of them), ALL Wilson mags cycled 100%.

The safety wore in some as well, and now operates very satisfactorily, which is to say, it feels excellent.

I’d have to say as of this moment, Les Baer delivered the goods.


Interim Post Script:

Was working the safety and dry firing later, and noticed the port side grip panel was loose. Tightened up the screws carefully and firmly. Starboard side panel was still tight.

The safety has worn in well after hundreds of cycles while bingeing on Better Call Saul.

Blisters on bottom of trigger finger and second knuckle of middle finger (trigger guard) and right side of thumb (safety). There are some edges.


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APRIL 15 ...

An update on the new Les Baer:

235 rounds fired today, all handloads.

Zero hiccups. Absolutely 100% functionality.

I am past the 500-round break-in now ... I think I’ll shoot it one more time before I break it down and perform first cleaning.

Very pleased right now!


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APRIL 29 ...

Put another 365 rounds through the Les Baer today, which puts my total at 925. Figured she's broken in now and just finished a thorough first cleaning (she was filthy).

First the range report:

Brought a bunch of mixed reloads this week that I wanted to shoot up and turn into brass. Last week I had the Labradar out, testing loads, and I want to start fine tuning some loads for this pistol.

First up were ~160 loads using Xtreme plated 230-grain hollow points and Titegroup. Accuracy at steel at 35 yards seemed OK, but I noticed some definite flyers and all in all, I think this is not my favorite bullet. Function was 100%.

Next up were ~50 Berry's plated 200-grain Round Shoulders and Titegroup. These were some of my early .45 ACP handloads. I had three bobbles, all exactly the same, and all identical to those I had on its maiden voyage: Wilson mags, 6th round, failure to go fully into battery. I switched to the Tripp mags included with the gun, and no more bobbles. Hmm. Thought we'd left this behind. Gonna keep watching this.

Finally were ~165 more Xtreme 230 hollows. Function was again 100% through all magazines.

Port side grip panel came loose again.


Got home, got in a quick nap, and decided it was cleaning time.

1] Very, very dirty. I had kept the gun very wet during break-in, and there was black "ink" everywhere.

2] I field stripped, removed grips, firing pin, and extractor, cleaned everything, scrubbed chamber and barrel, re-lubed and re-assembled.

The gun feels very tight and the slide now feels smooth as glass on glass.

I'm gonna need to shoot this again soon. I better get to loading ...

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I've seen a few of the Baers at gun shows and always loved the no BS look to them . All business and ready to rock and roll and tight as a drum always. They have always been a bit out of my reach though and probably will continue to be . Sounds like you got a really good one Rick. I hope you have a Big Blue progressive reloader, you're going to need it....

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I tried TightGroup, didn't care for it. Im running Clays and 230 grain bullet from RMR. Accuracy has improved much. Still have some work to do with this load. Currently using a Glock 21 as a test gun.

That Les Baer looks awesome!

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Just a good clean 1911. I don't like the front cocking serrations, but they can be deleted. Good looking pistols. I'd probably get mine in .38 Super, because I already have four .45s).

Les builds good pistols.


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Wow! a 1.5" guarantee & it started functioning 100% at about the 200 round mark. I might have expected one of those to need an extended break in period. Mine was the standard 3" gun & while it functioned well after 200 or so, it didn't start to feel right until approx. 600.

Sounds like you made a great score.

"One & done" ? Ha! which LB model you got you eye on for #2?

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I’ve been shooting a Missouri 200 grain RNFP over 231 powder. Fun to shoot. I have also just got some Bayou 200 SWC ‘s. they are also coated. Been trying BE with these. My Baer is the Concept V. Hasbeen


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You cannot go wrong with a Les Baer. Congrats.

I bought a friend's Baer SRP back in the 1990s. Fit and function was flawless. I just couldn't warm up to it (and thus eventually sold it for a profit) because, while he had bought it new with a polished blue factory finish, he had had it hard chromed due to a tiny bit of rust from frequent IWB carry, and I just can't warm up to a 1911 that's been hard chromed.


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The 1.5" PII is a dang fine gun...

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Mine has run like a sewing machine with everything I have fed it.

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Very good choice Rick.


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Good choice Rick. This is the 1911 that I have come to prefer.

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Rick, you should pick up some grips like Mackies. Then you could get matching sweaters.....

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Glad to hear it worked out for you, Rick. My Les Baer is definitely one of my favorites. I ordered mine with the lower Hard Chromed for a two tone look, old school. Also ordered without the forward serrations and ambidextrous safety......


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Originally Posted by huntsman22
Rick, you should pick up some grips like Mackies. Then you could get matching sweaters.....

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It's the Catalina Wine Mixer!

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Originally Posted by huntsman22
Rick, you should pick up some grips like Mackies. Then you could get matching sweaters.....

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Perfect! Good find Hunts. 😊


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I want one.


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Where does one find argyle pistol grips?

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The Argyles are called skip line checkered grips and are a famous old grip from Herretts Grips of Idaho.

However now that that Bastid Huntsman has planted that seed in my head, I can't ever look at them the same! LOL laugh


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Originally Posted by Mackay_Sagebrush
The Argyles are called skip line checkered grips and are a famous old grip from Herretts Grips of Idaho.

However now that that Bastid Huntsman has planted that seed in my head, I can't ever look at them the same! LOL laugh


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They kinda make me want a 1911.

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