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Lee Dippers are sized in cubic centimeters. Its marked right on them. So are their powder measures for that matter. As Richard Lee put it; if its gonna have a number on it it may as well mean something.

"Lee Dippers are sized in cubic centimeters. Its marked right on them. So are their powder measures for that matter. As Richard Lee put it; if its gonna have a number on it it may as well mean something."

Yep--and it's easy to check Lee Dippers for how much powder of a specific brand of powder they hold--and how consistently YOU can use them.

Know more than one professional gun writer who uses them for initial work-up of loads, because at that stage they're a lot faster than weighing each charge, whether with a balance or electronic scale.

I used them in the Northern Territory in Oz, in conjunction with an el-cheapo Lee hand press to keep my .458 running while culling buffalo. It was a way around airline ammo weight limits, and horrendous prices of factory ammo. Also used both loading 7-300, 270 Weatherby, 257 'bee and 30-06 all over Oz and NZ, but for that I also hauled a scale and a set of Competition shell holders. Low tech is a lot better than no tech.

There's always stories. I was in a damn tire shop today and listening to bs. One guy said he shoots long range and he didn't even know what model Nightforce he has. Called it a "SVH". According to him, it's a newer Nightforce made more for longrange hunters. I wasn't the one talking to him, or I would have just laughed. Also when I went to a long range varmint silhouette match a few months ago, the guys there were telling me about a couple rednecks that showed up with their 270's and 30-06's topped with Leupold CDS scopes. They thought thew were going to whip the whole crew. Needless to say, I guess they only hit 3 targets out of 40. I'm assuming those were the close (300 yard squirrel) targets. I wasn't there, but it sounded like it was hilarious. I always hear bullschidt coming out of guys mouths, since I visit a lot of gunshops. I think Cabela's is one of the worst places to hear chidt that will make you laugh. Sometimes I'll say something like the schidt is getting pretty fu cking thick in here. Or holy fu ck you guys are stupid.. ha ha..

I still just use a set of the old Lee dippers I got from my old man back when I first started loading in high school, along with a trickler and scale for all my loading.

I kept meaning to get a powder measure, but somewhere along the way I eventually I just decided I didn't really need one anyway, since I'm normally only cranking out between 40 and 100 rounds in a sitting.

With some powders I have to do a fair bit of trickling, but with others I can dip them right on the mark onto the scale more often than not. One of those things I guess you just get a feel and eye for after a while.

One day someone may take offense in an unpleasant way.

We were jawing in the (crap- I forgot what we called it - "ready" will do). room waiting for the Ak Air flight we were working to come in. the Liar was regailing us with bang-flop 400 yard caribou shot a couple years go with his open sighted 94-22.

I happened to have my new Leupold 800i rangefinder out in the baggage/garage/freight room, picked up at the PO on the way to work.

hehehe......

"Chris - how far is it across the apron to the flag there?"

"About 250 yards - how far do you call it?"

I said :"about 100"

You're kidding!' said he.

Rangefinder said 93.

hehehe. I'd paced it off 2 days before., expecting the rangefinder.

I'd heard his stories before....

Thanks for the laughs everybody this was an excellent read

I mailed home a handwritten Father’s Day letter from Iraq in 2003 and later gave him a pic of myself holding the Mossberg 500 I used as the 2nd man through the door on a few raids. He framed them together later on.

Dad was in a gun shop a few years later and some guys were discussing shotguns, specifically Benelli vs REM 870. Dad asked about the Mossberg 500 pumps and mentioned I liked it. (Personally I prefer the slide release and safety locations over the 870 especially)

Guy behind the counter said the military had never, and would never, stoop to using a POS like a Mossberg when there were Benellis and 870s available. Dad brought the pic by later that week. He didn’t have much to say.

This stuff can go the opposite direction as well.

Take a hunter who has only hunted in the bush and never took a field shot over 100 yards in his life. For reasons known only to himself he gets a rangefinder and discovers that 300 yards is an unfathomable distance and naturally concludes that everyone who makes such claims is an incorrigible liar and can't wait to corner someone at a gun counter or online and read the gospel to him. Sometimes its better to just watch them make a fool of themselves when they call out some kid who was shooting a .257 Weatherby on the prairies since he was nine,

Well, you don't need to bust their chops. There can be more discrete ways of telling someone that they are/were incorrect. One of our self professed gun guru type guys was up front lecturing our gun club meeting and mentioned that bullets rise when they are fired. I went up after the meeting and we had a conversation that gravity starts working on a bullet just like any other object and that bullets DO cross the line of sight twice, but only because the sight and the bullet's path intersect. I demonstrated holding a pencil level representing the barrel and another pencil to represent the sight or scope pointed slightly downward. After the conversation he Googled it and admitted that he had been mistaken when we went to the range together.

Agreed. Not everyone needs to be called out. Some are simply ill informed or inexperienced. Some are blow hard buffoons and need to be humbled. Like the guy claiming he used 20 gauge instead of a 12 because it didn’t hurt the dogs when he hit them.

You can't fix stupid, but you need to know your audience. Was it Burger King that tried to market a 1/3 pound hamburger to compete with McDonald's 1/4 Pounder, but they didn't sell well because everyone knows that 4 is larger than 3!

Blow hard Bafoons do not like to be humbled.

The best war story I have heard, was in a bar in TX. The guy was telling us that he was SF in VN and they would go on top secret missions without dog tags, name tags on their uniforms, military IDs and weapons without serial numbers......

I think that the burger joint was A&W.

Okay, bullets don’t rise, but what do you call the quasi-parabolic arc the bullet describes in flight?

Or do you have to draw the whole line of sight graph to explain it?

Any time someone says bullets do/don't rise they should also specify with respect to what.

Draw a quasi-parabolic arc for the bullet path relative to the bore. Then, to represent the line of sight, draw a straight line that crosses the bullet path at two points. The first intersection is the near zero and the second intersection is the far zero.

The bullet had to go somewhere