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Haven't seen that, but I have seen plenty of guys walking down the road with a gas can in their hands.......



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A 240v generator will charge them a lot faster but to get that, you need one about 4k watts or bigger.


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My question is, what the hell are they going to do with all of the dead batteries after they expire and quit working? They're going to need a hazardous waste dump just for batteries.

The other question I have is, how much will it cost to replace the batteries in a car? How many miles do you get out one set of batteries before you have to replace them?


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Originally Posted by StoneCutter
My question is, what the hell are they going to do with all of the dead batteries after they expire and quit working? They're going to need a hazardous waste dump just for batteries.

The other question I have is, how much will it cost to replace the batteries in a car? How many miles do you get out one set of batteries before you have to replace them?

They recycle them.

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My question is, what the hell are they going to do with all of the dead batteries after they expire and quit working? They're going to need a hazardous waste dump just for batteries.

The other question I have is, how much will it cost to replace the batteries in a car? How many miles do you get out one set of batteries before you have to replace them?

They recycle them.

Thanks, I was wondering about that. I wonder what it costs to replace them. It's got to be pricey.


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Originally Posted by StoneCutter
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My question is, what the hell are they going to do with all of the dead batteries after they expire and quit working? They're going to need a hazardous waste dump just for batteries.

The other question I have is, how much will it cost to replace the batteries in a car? How many miles do you get out one set of batteries before you have to replace them?

They recycle them.

Thanks, I was wondering about that. I wonder what it costs to replace them. It's got to be pricey.

Tesla recycles all Tesla’s batteries, with about 94% of the contents reused. Because the whole Tesla battery thing is only really 10 years old (Model S), there are very (VERY) few post consumer batteries that are even available for recycling. Almost all of those come from “taxi-like” vehicles, according to Musk in an interview this month.

With Cobalt at $80,000 a ton, there’s some monetary incentive to recycle, there.


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Originally Posted by smokepole
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Teslas don't get a tax incentive.

People who buy them do.

There are no Federal tax incentives on any Tesla sold for at least the last several years. Local and State jurisdictions may still have incentives.


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EV is part of the energy/transportation section.

NOTHING MORE... a small piece in a very large puzzle.

.GOV manipulations (i.e. $$$ incentives, ethanol, carbon credits et al) are trying to prop EV up as a much bigger piece... but it is NOT.

NOR will it be for quite some time.

FAR TOO MANY LOGISTIC PROBLEMS TO SOLVE.


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Originally Posted by Dutch
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Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter
Teslas don't get a tax incentive.

People who buy them do.

There are no Federal tax incentives on any Tesla sold for at least the last several years. Local and State jurisdictions may still have incentives.

MD, NJ and Southern Cal have Federal incentives for certain vehicles (i.e. Prius PRIME et al)... Teslas also? Not sure.

The point is moot however... Dealer's mark up the MSRP by $5k and that vaporizes the $5k incentive.


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Originally Posted by Dutch
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Teslas don't get a tax incentive.

People who buy them do.

There are no Federal tax incentives on any Tesla sold for at least the last several years. Local and State jurisdictions may still have incentives.


You sure about that?

https://electrek.co/2022/04/15/which-electric-vehicles-still-qualify-for-us-federal-tax-credit/


I know they wee still giving tax credits in December 2019 when my wife bought one.



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Originally Posted by smokepole
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Teslas don't get a tax incentive.

People who buy them do.

There are no Federal tax incentives on any Tesla sold for at least the last several years. Local and State jurisdictions may still have incentives.


You sure about that?

https://electrek.co/2022/04/15/which-electric-vehicles-still-qualify-for-us-federal-tax-credit/


I know they wee still giving tax credits in December 2019 when my wife bought one.


Again Teslas don't qualify for tax credits.

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I stand corrected. Seems like Tesla no longer needs tax credits to sell their vehicles.



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Originally Posted by StoneCutter
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My question is, what the hell are they going to do with all of the dead batteries after they expire and quit working? They're going to need a hazardous waste dump just for batteries.

The other question I have is, how much will it cost to replace the batteries in a car? How many miles do you get out one set of batteries before you have to replace them?

They recycle them.

Thanks, I was wondering about that. I wonder what it costs to replace them. It's got to be pricey.


Just for comparison on a much smaller scale.

8, quality 6 volt batteries for a 48 volt golf cart will run close to 1k$ with taxes included.

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Nothing wrong with electric.

Especially if it saves some gasoline and diesel for the rest of us that rely on it.


Bring on the electrics...bring on the hybrids.

Bring on diesel electric.


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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Nothing wrong with electric.

Especially if it saves some gasoline and diesel for the rest of us that rely on it.


Bring on the electrics...bring on the hybrids.

Bring on diesel electric.
wait till they make you buy electric tractors and combines.and pick up trucks to haul it to town.You know its coming


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Originally Posted by rem shooter
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Nothing wrong with electric.

Especially if it saves some gasoline and diesel for the rest of us that rely on it.


Bring on the electrics...bring on the hybrids.

Bring on diesel electric.
wait till they make you buy electric tractors and combines.and pick up trucks to haul it to town.You know its coming

No, I don't know that's coming.

We aren't going to get rid of oil. The military industrial complex and big oil would never allow it.


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Originally Posted by viking
And then there is this. I had a friend that new him personally. He said the oil companies bought him out and cave him a new car. Tom, was told no more inventing…. Well he couldn’t leave it alone. My late friend said, we all warned him. He ended up dead in the desert…

https://elpasotimes.typepad.com/morgue/2008/04/200-miles-on-tw.html

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When we see Musk’s Space X launch an electric rocket or when NASCAR starts running them, then it’ll be game on.

Until that time pack a generator with you if you ain’t just daily commuting and sign up for AAA towing services.

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