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Liking my .270 with 110gn V-MAX for coyotes.
Don't ask me about my military service or heroic acts...most of it is untrue.
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Good enough for O’Connor good enough for me…. Even though I’ve never owned one. I do fancy the weatherby version.
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Just me, but I don't care for long action cartridges. I hunt a 7-08.
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The 270 is a pure hunting round developed nearly 100 years ago by Winchester to kill big game animals at long range. It’s never fallen out of favor. Same thought here too. It’s only getting better as bullets and powders are better.
Semper Fi
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The new generation of hunters/shooters spend more time at the range than in the field, this is where the newer cartridges shine like the 6.5CM, 6.5 PRC and to some extent the 300 PRC. The specialty rifles and chassis stocks these new to shooting folks uses lend themselves to the long range target crowd and long range hunting. I see hunting posts on social media and everyone wants to know "how far was the shot?" and there seems to be general disappointment if the shot was under 500 yards. I remember is wasn't long ago that one would be called out for poor sportsmanship if he was boasting about a shot over 300 yards. For me, I'm on the side of sport hunting ethics and I like the idea of close the better but the new age will call you a non-woke boomer if you call them out for their "shooting" and lack of "hunting". Back to the 270, years ago, I experimented with the 6.5s, including 260 Rem, 6.5x55, 6.5-06 and 263 WM and most recently the 6.5 CM. After buyingl rifles, new barrels and handloading, I came to the conclusion that they all duplicate (or at least try to) the 270 Win. I don't own any 6.5s but I presently have two 270s and won't be without at least one. The 270 is not sexy enough for the new generation and the short 6.5 PRC is ideal for the target crowd but the 270 W is the benchmark for all other "deer" cartridges to measure against. The performance between the 270W and the 6.5 PRC are just about identical out to 500 yards, after that, the PRC has an edge. However, long skinny cartridges tend to feed better than short fatties and often add one to the mag capacity. These days, I shoot 140s out of my 270s as a compromise and could not be more pleased. As much as I appreciate the modern design and accuracy of the 6.5CM, it doesn't have quite the zip of the 270 so I'll stick with what has worked for so many years. This is why I would like to see factory .270s modernized. All it would take would be for manufacturer’s to quietly start releasing .270s with 8” twist barrels. Would still shoot lighter bullets well and would allow the use of high BC bullets too. John
If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
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The new generation of hunters/shooters spend more time at the range than in the field, this is where the newer cartridges shine like the 6.5CM, 6.5 PRC and to some extent the 300 PRC. The specialty rifles and chassis stocks these new to shooting folks uses lend themselves to the long range target crowd and long range hunting. I see hunting posts on social media and everyone wants to know "how far was the shot?" and there seems to be general disappointment if the shot was under 500 yards. I remember is wasn't long ago that one would be called out for poor sportsmanship if he was boasting about a shot over 300 yards. For me, I'm on the side of sport hunting ethics and I like the idea of close the better but the new age will call you a non-woke boomer if you call them out for their "shooting" and lack of "hunting". Back to the 270, years ago, I experimented with the 6.5s, including 260 Rem, 6.5x55, 6.5-06 and 263 WM and most recently the 6.5 CM. After buyingl rifles, new barrels and handloading, I came to the conclusion that they all duplicate (or at least try to) the 270 Win. I don't own any 6.5s but I presently have two 270s and won't be without at least one. The 270 is not sexy enough for the new generation and the short 6.5 PRC is ideal for the target crowd but the 270 W is the benchmark for all other "deer" cartridges to measure against. The performance between the 270W and the 6.5 PRC are just about identical out to 500 yards, after that, the PRC has an edge. However, long skinny cartridges tend to feed better than short fatties and often add one to the mag capacity. These days, I shoot 140s out of my 270s as a compromise and could not be more pleased. As much as I appreciate the modern design and accuracy of the 6.5CM, it doesn't have quite the zip of the 270 so I'll stick with what has worked for so many years. This is why I would like to see factory .270s modernized. All it would take would be for manufacturer’s to quietly start releasing .270s with 8” twist barrels. Would still shoot lighter bullets well and would allow the use of high BC bullets too. John Same here John. Wouldn’t have to change anything other than the twist and you’d be able to capitalize on just about everything. The current throat works excellent for the long noses on the higher BC bullets out there.
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Sold the only 270 I ever owned, hunted with short action calibers for many years although my Rem 700 .280 was there in the safe. Like said above , the 270 loading supplies were plentiful so I just bought another 270 this year. After reading about the velocities on the 270 topic I loaded up some 150's ABLR with RL26 and was very surprised . Averaged 3050 fps. with great accuracy. What's not to like.
HMM-161, HMM-364 Semper Fi Brothers
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Owned one for about 5 years. Loaned money, it was collateral. Sold it to a young kid. Never even had any ammo for it.
Always prejudiced against it. City relatives all used 270 or 06 pumps. They were...different.
Got an 06 pump, got over those issues.
Now, I'd love to get a nice old fashioned light 270. Like a Husky or something. Just to give the old girl a whirl. Like my Sweede, but maybe a 270 could be "The One".
30-30, 243, 308, 7 mag, 300 mag, 30-06, Sweed, thought all of them might be "The one" too!
Parents who say they have good kids..Usually don't!
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I know there's a lot of sport disrespecting this cartridge on the Fire but is it real? Age? Poor performance, myth?
What say you??? because it matches the .277 Fury ballistics?
...Actually Sycamore, you are sort of right....
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I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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It's all marketing.
If you own a .270, you're set. But the advertising guys want you to buy a new rifle. This right here.
Life can be rough on us dreamers.
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It took me several years to come around to it, but in the last 5 years I have come to the realization that the 270 WCF is ideal for the whitetail deer and pigs that I shoot. Factory ammo has been, and will be plentiful. I'm well satisfied with my 270 for filling the freezer.
"The number one problem with America is, a whole lot of people need shot, and nobody is shooting them." -Master Chief Hershel Davis
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Like most here, I have a great variety to choose from. Some new, some big n' little, all types, really. Four of those are .270 wcf's. For my purposes, the bulk of the time I take the Browning BLR/ .270.it provides enough of everything I need and matched with the right bullet it always meets expectations....for decades. There are lots of great chamberings out there, but variations of the 30/06 can fill every need in North America, brass can all have an '06 headstamp and send .25, 27, .28, 30, 33, and 35 bullets with good efficiency. Reliability and trustability just doesn't keep the marketing machines in high gear though. So, the great deception continues over a need for new shiny stuff .
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I happen to agree with Finn Aagaard. "The true general purpose big-game cartridges used in this country come in but two calibers. 30 and 7mm." Hmmm. I'm not calling you a heretic, but I don't recall St. Finn ever making such a comment. To the contrary, he had a lot of admiration for the 270 as a general purpose big game round. Chapter and verse please!
“Perfection is Achieved Not When There Is Nothing More to Add, But When There Is Nothing Left to Take Away” Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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I happen to agree with Finn Aagaard. "The true general purpose big-game cartridges used in this country come in but two calibers. 30 and 7mm." Hmmm. I'm not calling you a heretic, but I don't recall St. Finn ever making such a comment. To the contrary, he had a lot of admiration for the 270 as a general purpose big game round. Chapter and verse please! If so, it makes sense as the 270 is technically a 7mm, 7mm = .277"
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From Coyotes to elk, the 270 simply works. I was slow to accept it, but now consider it the perfect deer sized cartridge with a 130 Nosler Combined Technology bullet. Coyote at 520 yards, elk at 230 yards...
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I’ve always thought the 270 WCF as a multi purpose, quasi magnum chamber. It gets very impressive velocities that are close to magnum speeds from all available bullet weights. It does so with a 22-inch barrel as well. As a mountain rifle you could shorten a barrel to 20” with 130, 140, 150 or 160 grain loads with 1-10 twist and still keep up easily or surpass the 6.5 Creedmoor, 7-08 Rem and 308 WCF utilizing 24” barrels. If custom set up in a 6lbs+- rifle you’d be hard pressed to find anything better as an alpine or plains rifle.
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I know there's a lot of sport disrespecting this cartridge on the Fire but is it real? Age? Poor performance, myth?
What say you??? It's mostly from insecure 7x57 fans. This 7x57 fan considers the 270 to be one of the best cartridges out there for Joe Avg. shooter. We just think we're cool because we shoot oddball stuff. There really hasn't been many that were better than the 270 since it was rolled out.
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“Perfection is Achieved Not When There Is Nothing More to Add, But When There Is Nothing Left to Take Away” Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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Growing up my cousins all had 270's. I thought how could they be any good because I hunted with a magnum. That was 50 years ago and about 10 years ago I finally figured out the 270 is a pretty good caliber, even if it is a 270 WSM.
Writing from the gateway to the great BluMtns in southeastern Washington.
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