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New footage shows the chaotic crowd outside the school, as heavily-armed sheriffs and law enforcement stand guard and hold them back – in one case, seemingly wrestling a panic-stricken woman to the ground and pinning her down.
‘What are you doing? Get inside the building!’ one person can be heard screaming. Wow Rio Grande Valley is a Democratic stronghold. The Uvalde school district defiantly said "No!!!" when a few people wanted to arm the teachers. Now, we see the results of letting Democrats running the show: dead children.Uvalde is not in the RGV.
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The real truth is this was terrible worse than most. but not an isolated incident, it's just another repeat of LE screwups and people dying, then LE lying about it.
It's the way things are, and have always been only now we have better technology and video and the lies aren't as easy to hide...
BTW, let us circle back to that,,, wait until we have all the facts,,, make the same BS excuses in the meantime while we come up with better lies
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two cops did run in and were shot,. Should probably wait for the investigation to conclude. None of us has idea what occurred and the media has a very proven history of lying My nephew is a cop in a large southwestern city (and, by the way, a Medal of Valor awardee), and we were talking about this today. He was amazed that any cop on the scene would wait around for orders under those circumstances. He assures me that he'd go in right away, whether or not he was the first on the scene, and he'd engage the shooter. He says his department's policy permits this, and doesn't require an officer to wait for backup, or orders from superiors, when lives are at risk, particularly children's lives.
PS My nephew has won two shooting engagements with armed perps in the six years he's been a cop. We have heard about these two cops who rushed in and were shot (though not badly enough that they couldn't turn tail and run back out) but have heard very little about them since this assertion. We have heard that they checked the door and found it to be locked. Shot were fired through the door, striking the officers; they prudently withdrew and did not approach again after this close call. We will probably NEVER know what happened, exactly. This is because law enforcement employs professional liars who lie to cover up mistakes. In addition, all reports we receive, from any source, are created by other professional liars who lie to push their agenda or to to simply jazz up the story. We all want our cops to be heroes who are in place to protect and serves us; the people who pay for them. It seems, in this case, the people of Uvalde didn't really get their money's worth. GD
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If they can spend tens of millions of dollars on new school buildings, stadiums, etc, they can afford to protect the kids who go there. I couldn't agree more! Also, if the Federal government can afford to send billions of dollars overseas to places that hate us, wouldn't that same money be better spent protecting our school kids? The answer to your question is obvious. Sending money overseas is just a money laundering scheme for the very politicians that sent it. Spending money on school safety doesn’t line political pockets or Teachers Union pockets, so there is no financial incentive here. Besides, by solving the problem they would be taking a Campaign Fodder Arrow out of their quiver.
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
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You could change the one on the left to , When Roger Stone is Inside
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
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Where is the investigation going that's looking into who sponsored the kid's gun and ammo purchases? Those professional liars are doing their best to convince everybody that an 18 year old, borderline retard witha job at a fast food restaurant somehow accumulated thousands of dollars to buy a couple of high end AR's and enough ammo to fight a small war. That's the story that needs some serious fact checking!
Ignorance can be fixed. Stupid is forever!
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You could change the one on the left to , When Roger Stone is Inside Or someone is inside who didn't pay a $200.00 tax on a firearm modification.
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Where is the investigation going that's looking into who sponsored the kid's gun and ammo purchases? Those professional liars are doing their best to convince everybody that an 18 year old, borderline retard witha job at a fast food restaurant somehow accumulated thousands of dollars to buy a couple of high end AR's and enough ammo to fight a small war. That's the story that needs some serious fact checking! Just because you suck at managing your money doesn't mean an 18 year old with no other liabilities can't save up $1500 for a rifle.
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Ouch. But let's be honest, you're just pissed because they flushed your stash.
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Where is the investigation going that's looking into who sponsored the kid's gun and ammo purchases? Those professional liars are doing their best to convince everybody that an 18 year old, borderline retard witha job at a fast food restaurant somehow accumulated thousands of dollars to buy a couple of high end AR's and enough ammo to fight a small war. That's the story that needs some serious fact checking! Just because you suck at managing your money doesn't mean an 18 year old with no other liabilities can't save up $1500 for a rifle. Two DD rifles and lots of ammo. Probably more like $4-$5k. Lots of 18yo’s save all their money to buy high end AR’s just yo shoot up a school when a $500 gun would do the same thing. Story smells of possible accomplices.
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Cops don't flush your stash.
You gotta do that yourself.
That's why they bust in so fast (in *some* cases), so ya don't have time.
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Bought a Colt Python, the first day I was legal ta do so.
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Where is the investigation going that's looking into who sponsored the kid's gun and ammo purchases? Those professional liars are doing their best to convince everybody that an 18 year old, borderline retard witha job at a fast food restaurant somehow accumulated thousands of dollars to buy a couple of high end AR's and enough ammo to fight a small war. That's the story that needs some serious fact checking! Just because you suck at managing your money doesn't mean an 18 year old with no other liabilities can't save up $1500 for a rifle. Two DD rifles and lots of ammo. Probably more like $4-$5k. Lots of 18yo’s save all their money to buy high end AR’s just yo shoot up a school when a $500 gun would do the same thing. Story smells of possible accomplices. only one was a DD the other was a generic model.
God bless Texas----------------------- Old 300 I will remain what i am until the day I die- A HUNTER......Sitting Bull Its not how you pick the booger.. but where you put it !! Roger V Hunter
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Cops don't flush your stash.
You gotta do that yourself.
That's why they bust in so fast (in *some* cases), so ya don't have time. LOL, thanks for the tip!!!
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Where is the investigation going that's looking into who sponsored the kid's gun and ammo purchases? Those professional liars are doing their best to convince everybody that an 18 year old, borderline retard witha job at a fast food restaurant somehow accumulated thousands of dollars to buy a couple of high end AR's and enough ammo to fight a small war. That's the story that needs some serious fact checking! Just because you suck at managing your money doesn't mean an 18 year old with no other liabilities can't save up $1500 for a rifle. Two DD rifles and lots of ammo. Probably more like $4-$5k. Lots of 18yo’s save all their money to buy high end AR’s just yo shoot up a school when a $500 gun would do the same thing. Story smells of possible accomplices. No, it was one DD rifle. The other rifle he had was some generic basic gun. Stop repeating things you hear; only repeat it when you can verify it as fact. Kids working fast food make about $15-16/hr now. DD rifles retail around $1800, but you can often find them for less. $1500 is pretty common selling price...so 1 1/2-2 pay periods would cover it. Kid had no bills and lived with his grandparents. There is nothing at all to implicate any accomplices. Turn off the tinfoil and deal with facts, especially when your "facts" are based on lies which you haven't taken the time to attempt to verify.
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two cops did run in and were shot,. Should probably wait for the investigation to conclude. None of us has idea what occurred and the media has a very proven history of lying My nephew is a cop in a large southwestern city (and, by the way, a Medal of Valor awardee), and we were talking about this today. He was amazed that any cop on the scene would wait around for orders under those circumstances. He assures me that he'd go in right away, whether or not he was the first on the scene, and he'd engage the shooter. He says his department's policy permits this, and doesn't require an officer to wait for backup, or orders from superiors, when lives are at risk, particularly children's lives.
PS My nephew has won two shooting engagements with armed perps in the six years he's been a cop. We have heard about these two cops who rushed in and were shot (though not badly enough that they couldn't turn tail and run back out) but have heard very little about them since this assertion. We have heard that they checked the door and found it to be locked. Shot were fired through the door, striking the officers; they prudently withdrew and did not approach again after this close call. We will probably NEVER know what happened, exactly. This is because law enforcement employs professional liars who lie to cover up mistakes. In addition, all reports we receive, from any source, are created by other professional liars who lie to push their agenda or to to simply jazz up the story. We all want our cops to be heroes who are in place to protect and serves us; the people who pay for them. It seems, in this case, the people of Uvalde didn't really get their money's worth. GD The school had cameras in that hallway, maybe we'll see the related video, maybe not.
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The school had cameras in that hallway, maybe we'll see the related video, maybe not. We'll see none of it.
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Where is the investigation going that's looking into who sponsored the kid's gun and ammo purchases? Those professional liars are doing their best to convince everybody that an 18 year old, borderline retard witha job at a fast food restaurant somehow accumulated thousands of dollars to buy a couple of high end AR's and enough ammo to fight a small war. That's the story that needs some serious fact checking! Just because you suck at managing your money doesn't mean an 18 year old with no other liabilities can't save up $1500 for a rifle. Two DD rifles and lots of ammo. Probably more like $4-$5k. Lots of 18yo’s save all their money to buy high end AR’s just yo shoot up a school when a $500 gun would do the same thing. Story smells of possible accomplices. No, it was one DD rifle. The other rifle he had was some generic basic gun. Stop repeating things you hear; only repeat it when you can verify it as fact. Kids working fast food make about $15-16/hr now. DD rifles retail around $1800, but you can often find them for less. $1500 is pretty common selling price...so 1 1/2-2 pay periods would cover it. Kid had no bills and lived with his grandparents. There is nothing at all to implicate any accomplices. Turn off the tinfoil and deal with facts, especially when your "facts" are based on lies which you haven't taken the time to attempt to verify. Since you have all the facts…how long did he work a paying job, what other expenses did he have, did he pay cash, check or credit card at the shop, what optics were mounted and what did they cost, where had he been practicing shooting, was he raised around guns or just suddenly start buying them the day he turned 18, how many more guns did he own? It’s nice to have someone like you with first hand knowledge to learn from, thanks in advance.
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