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Officer’s ‘Hot Mic’ Jammed Emergency Radio Channel During Uvalde Shooting

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One officer “inadvertently” pressed and held the mic button creating a hot mic for 5 minutes .

Hey that’s God’s country according to Texas.

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Fugkin schit hole.

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Ramos was known to be trouble. He got into fights, slashed his own face, told friends he hoped to join the military so he could kill people and posted multiple rape and death threats on the app Yubo. One girl reported him, but online harassment reports are probably common which led to these complaints not receiving a second glance. Where the line to inform authorities becomes clearer was when he posted pictures of bags of dead cats. He also drove around town shooting people with a BB gun. Texas courts consider BB guns as deadly weapons. Assault charges could have been filed, preventing Ramos from buying his weapons. There were plenty of laws that could have stopped this kid.

We’ve learned that a door was propped open or left unlocked at Robb Elementary School (the story keeps changing on what exactly happened), allowing the shooter to enter the building. We’ve also discovered the Uvalde police — despite well-established doctrine that a mass shooter must be confronted immediately by whoever is at hand — hung back for nearly an hour while children were murdered inside. We’ve seen chilling timelines showing repeated cellphone calls from students trapped inside, wondering why no one was coming to help. We’ve seen video of the police not simply failing to protect the children but blocking (and even arresting) parents who tried to get past them to help their kids. When a tactical response team from a nearby US Border Patrol unit showed up, the police even stopped it from going to the rescue right away.

The Uvalde police and school district are now stonewalling the investigation into their actions, refusing to cooperate with Texas authorities. Pete Arredondo, the police chief, hasn’t responded to investigators in days — though, incredibly, he did show up to get sworn in as a Uvalde city councilmember.

These children didn’t die because there’s some sort of dark moral stain on the American soul. They died because the people in charge of protecting them were cowards and frauds, and now those cowards and frauds are trying to avoid responsibility.

We saw the same thing with the Parkland school shooting in Broward County, Fla., where once again a dangerous student was repeatedly let off the hook by fashionably lax disciplinary policies until he committed mass murder. Then, when he did, the police were cowards who hid outside. There too, we were told that the real problem was a moral failing on the part of the hundreds of millions of Americans who were not involved, rather than on the part of the shooter and those who enabled him.

The folks in charge are free to be failures, incompetents and worse with virtually no risk of accountability.

The clusterfark in Uvalde is just a symptom of a much bigger pathology. It is a symbol of the failure of every institution in our society. And the solution is never to revamp the institutions and eject the parasites heading them. It’s always — always — to take power from us and give it to the people who screwed up in the first place.

It seems like these killers — Parkland shooter Nikolas Cruz and Uvalde shooter Salvador Ramos, among many others — were known to be problems well before but weren’t properly dealt with. Then, once the shooting started, the police hid behind cars and let children die. Forget the thin blue line — in Uvalde, as in Broward, it was a thin yellow line.

But I don’t mean to just pick on cops. A year ago, the US embassy in Kabul was flying a Pride flag. A few months later, there was no US embassy in Kabul, as the United States made a humiliating withdrawal, a military defeat of cosmic proportions. Just this week, Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen admitted that she had been “wrong” on the threat posed by inflation. Last year she had said, “I think there’s a small risk, and I think it’s manageable.” One of her top jobs is to control inflation. Everyone with a brain saw it coming in the wake of the Trump and Biden administration’s reckless spending. But she didn’t, or pretended that she didn’t, and now Americans are paying top prices for gas, groceries and all the necessities of life. Yellen hasn’t stepped down. She hasn’t even really apologized.

Our ruling class keeps failing, and somehow it’s supposed to be because of Americans’ moral failings. But if Americans have a moral failing, it’s in tolerating rule by the cast of clowns in charge of our institutions.

Well said.

"They died because the people in charge of protecting them were cowards and frauds, and now those cowards and frauds are trying to avoid responsibility."

Quite true.

Geno, nice analysis. Only complaint is in the last paragraph, the term "ruling class". They were suppose to be our "servants". We let them out of that job and now they dominate us as if they are ruling us. Our past generations have looked to gov't for solutions, when they should have solved the issue w/o gov't. Now, my generation and every one after it has the only example of being ruled. I wasn't alive then, but I am convinced the last nail in the coffin of "servitude" was with FDR and the jobs programs and Socialist Security.

Seems to be a Reoccurring Theme in these Schools Shootings..
Chickens or a Policy issue ..
“ We’re Very Glad none of the Officers were Injured “

Seems to be the exact case.

Some very well penned responses in this thread.

The kids died because the leftists want to get our ARs before their puppetmasters try to take over and planned the massacre.

The School district sheriff in charge supposedly didnt get the info from the police 911 calls that kids were calling in as shooting continued because he didnt want to use a police radio through the ordeal though he was in charge and telling the cops not to act.

Well, thats his story and hes sticking to it.

Rule No 1. There are no coincidences.

Seems to me they people in charge of protecting children failed the shooters way before -- not hiding behind cars and trees, but administrators, teachers, counselors, parents, hiding behind policies, political correctness and woke "tolerance".

Now the pukes in charge have stopped talking to the rangers because they dont want the truth coming out.

They werent planning on the Rangers investigating.

The truth will have them in prison.

Very well stated. Couldn`t agree more.

They werent planning on the Rangers investigating.
I believe that sentence to be bullshit. Any questions?

Geno pretty much nailed it. So many of the people in charge just about everywhere are incapable of actually performing their job outside of attending cocktail parties and strutting around spending our tax money. I have to lay some blame on the DPS as well because they not only witnessed the catastrophe but aided in keeping citizens from going in to get their kids. It might have saved lives but why not go in yourselves in spite of the Keystone Cop playing commander?
Before any of you hit Texas too hard remember it has happened in other places and it could come to your town especially in this climate where we are still pretending to be a Nation ruled by our Constitution.

What they weren't planning was to have their nuts dropped in the grease by DPS on national television.

Soon thereafter they stopped talking to Texas Rangers, and called for the DOJ to conduct an investigation.

Say that again.... They called for the DOJ to investigate?

All those who think the DOJ will conduct a fair, complete, and impartial investigation, please raise your hands....

Hand Count?

Great post Geno67!

It seems a lot of people in authority are the worst possible choice that could be made, especially in this administration.
Very frustrating when the common man can see the problem from afar.

This is going to sound strange, but the Supreme Court has ruled that the Police have no duty to put themselves in harms way.

Delusions abound.

Uvalde, Texas, police had no legal duty to act, experts say; Supreme Court precedent cited
BY DEBRA CASSENS WEISS

JUNE 1, 2022, 8:41 AM CDT



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Updated: Police in Uvalde, Texas, are unlikely to face civil liability for failing to rush in to confront shooter Salvador Ramos, 18, at Robb Elementary School last week, experts told several publications.

Even though police waited on the scene for about an hour before the gunman was shot, police are unlikely to face liability because of U.S. Supreme Court decisions and governmental immunity, report Law & Crime, the Boston Herald, the New York Daily News, the Insurance Journal via Bloomberg and WFAA.

Nineteen children and two adults were killed in the May 24 shooting. The chief of police for the school district ordered officers to hold off because he thought that the gunman had barricaded himself in the room and was no longer an active shooter, according to coverage by the New York Times.

The Supreme Court held that government generally has no duty to act to save lives in the 1989 decision DeShaney v. Winnebago County Department of Social Services, according to Law & Crime. In that case, child welfare officials failed to intervene to protect Joshua DeShaney, who suffered a brain injury in a beating so severe that he was expected to remain institutionalized for his life.

DeShaney’s lawsuit, filed under Section 1983 of the federal civil rights statute, had alleged that the failure to act deprived DeShaney of his liberty in violation of the 14th Amendment’s due process clause. The Supreme Court found no violation.

“Nothing in the language of the due process clause itself requires the state to protect the life, liberty and property of its citizens against invasion by private actors,” the Supreme Court said in the case.

The Supreme Court also found no liability in the 2005 decision Castle Rock v. Gonzales. In that case, Jessica Gonzales pleaded for police in Colorado to find her estranged husband after he abducted their three children. Police didn’t act, even though Gonzales had obtained a restraining order against the man.

The husband was shot dead when he opened fire at a police station. The three children had been killed.

Gonzales also alleged a 14th Amendment due process violation under Section 1983—this time for failure to enforce the restraining order. The Supreme Court said enforcement was not mandatory under state law, and the restraining order did not create a property interest entitling her to enforcement under the due process clause.

Lawsuits under the Texas Tort Claims Act are also unlikely because the act wouldn’t apply to the situation in Uvalde, legal experts told Bloomberg in the story published by the Insurance Journal. As a result, police will be protected by the doctrine of sovereign immunity.

The 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals at Atlanta agreed in December 2020 that public safety and school officials had no duty to protect students during the mass shooting that killed 17 people at a high school in Parkland, Florida, Education Week reported at the time.

A trial judge had dismissed most claims but allowed the lawsuit against school resource officer Scot Peterson to proceed because of his special relationship with students, Reuters reported in its story on Uvalde liability issues. But the judge later granted summary judgment in favor of Peterson, according to Education Week.

The 11th Circuit said defendants couldn’t be sued unless there was a “custodial relationship” or their conduct was “arbitrary” or “conscience shocking.”

“Absent intentional wrongdoing, we cannot review those split-second decisions under the due-process clause,” the 11th Circuit said.

A judge had allowed families of Parkland, Florida, victims to sue the FBI for failing to act on tips about the gunman. The U.S. Department of Justice reached a settlement in the case in November 2021, NPR reported at the time.

Dan Cogdell, a Houston criminal defense lawyer, told WFAA that he thought that Uvalde police were protected from lawsuits alleging constitutional violations.

“Unfortunately for the families in this case, I don’t think their constitutional rights were violated because you don’t have a constitutional right, for example, to have speedy response to your tragedy,” Cogdell said in an interview with WFAA.

“The police were doing what police do,” said Dick DeGuerin, a Houston criminal defense lawyer, in an interview with Bloomberg. “They may have been terribly negligent in how they did it. But it’s got to be more than negligence, it’s got to be a policy fault” to establish civil liability.

Cogdell agreed with that assessment.

“Unless the Uvalde chief of police has a written policy that says, ‘Wait an hour before you go in and rescue the kids,’” a wrongful death suit won’t succeed, Cogdell told Bloomberg.

Updated June 2 at 8:20 a.m. to include information on court decisions regarding the shooting in Parkland, Florida.

All of this puts things in perspective. Carry a gun, get training, know the law in your state, county, get insurance. Teachers could be armed, more security guards or in the least, a security supervisor that trains teachers on security issues. To many, the world is rainbows and butterflies, till something like these mass shootings start to happen, then we get knee jerk decisions that do little to fix the issues.