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in the old 06 i'd use the 180gr and the 220gr bullets
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If you use anything other than a Berger 175gr VLD the bullet will bounce back and probably hit you in the eye.
Good Luck and wear eye protection.
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To be honest, I never realized there were bullet options for the 30-06
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I agree with 150 grain partitions or maybe 165 or 180 partitions. Then the 200 partitions have become my favorite bullet in the magnums and it would shine in the ‘06 as well. 180-200 grain for a deer? They have Mulie Elk where you live or something? 😎 I’ve used bigger bullets on deer but didn’t kill ‘em any deader. They work damn well on deer. The plus to using a bullet like the 200gr partition is you can use the same load and bullet for elk. 1 and done. No fn around with loading different bullet weights for deer and then switching to a heavier bullet for better performance on elk. Keeping schidt simple is foreign to some people here. Are you suggesting that a .30 cal 165 or even a 180 partition or similar at .30-06 speeds is adequate for deer but not for elk?
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Lotta stuff written about how small calibers are so great for deer. Then, very specific bullet choices for them. If someone calls that into question, they are immediately attacked using their marksmanship as the target.
That crap show doesn't circle the 30-06. Choose a decent bullet from 150-180gr and go kill stuff. Stay away from the softest and hardest bullets and it's an easy thing.
I'd use the Ballistic Tips. The 165 grain Hornady Interlock is all you need to know. Premium bullets haven’t killed more elk and deer. All the endorsements of the small bullets and good shooting have forgotten what some of the industry standards have always been and even endorsed by guys like Bob Hagel… You should not use a rifle that will kill an animal when everything goes right; you should use one that will do the job when everything goes wrong." -Bob Hagel
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Well said Shrapnel. Too many forget this at the expense of wounding an animal to satisfy their ego.
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I agree with 150 grain partitions or maybe 165 or 180 partitions. Then the 200 partitions have become my favorite bullet in the magnums and it would shine in the ‘06 as well. 180-200 grain for a deer? They have Mulie Elk where you live or something? 😎 I’ve used bigger bullets on deer but didn’t kill ‘em any deader. They work damn well on deer. The plus to using a bullet like the 200gr partition is you can use the same load and bullet for elk. 1 and done. No fn around with loading different bullet weights for deer and then switching to a heavier bullet for better performance on elk. Keeping schidt simple is foreign to some people here. Lol. Now it takes a 200 grain bullet to kill an Elk?
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Obviously got my mule deer tag, but did not draw for Antelope.
Started working up recipes for 155 grain Scenar and 165 ballistic tips to see what shoots best
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I find that normally the whitetails I end up shooting are shot ~ 100 yards or less with some exceptions. Mule deer (bucks) on the other hand is a whole other game for me. I don’t get that close. Doe’s act like pets compared to a trophy mule deer buck. Regarding the bullets you mentioned, I’d go with the 165 grain ballistic tip bullets. In a “once in a lifetime” hunt I’d be looking at Partitions first though. There’s lots of premium bullets on the market but my first choice is partitions.
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Shot many Mule deer with the old 150 grain Speer Hotcor. But if it were a trophy hunt the 165 gr. Ballistic Tip is an excellent bullet. So is the 180 grain version.
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You guys have convinced me to use the 165 nosler
I’m going to just focus on that bullet
Thank you
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You can’t go wrong with the partitions
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Hard to beat 165s in the 30/06 like bread and butter
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Scenar shoots really well at 3050 fps. .003 off the lands. 53 grains of Varget. mag primer
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Quickly tell me a bullet coming out of an 06 that won’t kill a deer. Kiss! Edk
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I shoot .30-06 Winchester Super X 180 gr. and the poor critters never made it further than 20 yards with 90% of them dropping in their tracks instantly dead.
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Shot a handful of mulies - they aren’t that tough to kill. Less tenacious than a whitetail in my unprofessional opinion.
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A 150 would work just as well.
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A 150 or 165 Hornady Interlock, BT, Partition are all you need for any Muley. If elk were in the mix, I’d remove the BT but that is it and MAYBE go to a 180gr. I have never shot a Scenar.
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Just got back from my hunt.
150 hammer bullet did the job at just over 300 yards. Wasn't a huge deer.
We didn't see any quality shooter bucks all week. It was pretty disappointing for the money we spent on the hunt and travel expenses. Not sure if drought impacted antler growth or blue tongue, or just a bad ranch. We did see some giant elk every day.
Grass Range Montana (middle part of state) is where our ranch was.
Talked to a Pro hunter (travels all over the world) in Billings airport that was kind of stunned we were hunting in that area for wall mounter type bucks. he turned us onto a place in Arizonia
Oh well, always next year.
I am going to start looking at South Dakota or Nebraska so we can drive it.
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