24hourcampfire.com
24hourcampfire.com
-->
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Page 1 of 9 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 37,905
Likes: 2
Campfire 'Bwana
OP Online Content
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 37,905
Likes: 2
Chief Arredondo in his own words.....

https://www.kxan.com/news/texas/uva...defends-delay-in-confronting-gunman/amp/

The doors were designed to resist breaching, the key situation went fubar, what I haven’t heard addressed yet are the windows, if any.

I will note with regards to accuracy or lack thereof the story says Arredondo was packing a “Glock .22 handgun”.


"...if the gentlemen of Virginia shall send us a dozen of their sons, we would take great care in their education, instruct them in all we know, and make men of them." Canasatego 1744

Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 14,712
Likes: 2
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 14,712
Likes: 2
I still don't know why they didn't sneak up to the windows outside, toss in a pepper grenade, and come up shooting.


Politics is War by Other Means
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 69,649
Likes: 12
Campfire Kahuna
Online Content
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 69,649
Likes: 12
I read that earlier in the newspaper.

His rendition of what happened is, well... self serving and doesn't address more significant failures on his part.

The school district's answer? Hire more police. Like 2 or 3 more standing outside the classroom would have made a difference? I think in total there were like 19 cops in hallway.

I really don't see how Arredondo can look people in the eye in that town. Much less serve as a city councilman, and retain his position as school police chief.


Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla!
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 45,028
Likes: 25
R
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
R
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 45,028
Likes: 25
Gee.....
Ya think a colored master key or master keys would be part of your equipment on your person if you worked LE in a school....


Blaming it all on a inanimate object now......

And not a dumb azz Nepotism and neophyte beaner run LE force....

At least they their got cool fuschia colored cop badges right....

Let's give em a pass.....

Cause they never thought of the concept of a master key as a tool to have on hand on their " officers" at all times when on duty....

Last edited by renegade50; 06/10/22.
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 69,649
Likes: 12
Campfire Kahuna
Online Content
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 69,649
Likes: 12
A master key was just one of many problems that day.


Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla!
IC B2

Joined: Apr 2022
Posts: 161
J
Campfire Member
Offline
Campfire Member
J
Joined: Apr 2022
Posts: 161
Originally Posted by renegade50
Gee.....
Ya think a colored master key would be part of your equipment on your person if you worked LE in a school....


Blaming it all on a inanimate object now......

And not a dumb azz Nepotism and neophyte beaner run LE force....

Let's give em a pass.....

Cause they never thought of the concept of a master key as a tool to have on hand on their " officers" at all times when on duty....

My first thought as well. On the plus side, we know those doors work.

Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 6,191
Likes: 5
I
Campfire Tracker
Online Content
Campfire Tracker
I
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 6,191
Likes: 5
Bull s hit, they had a mother that ran into that school and grabbed her kids from two separate class rooms while the officers had their dicks in their hands.



You've got to hand it to a blind prostitute
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 31,619
Likes: 4
K
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
K
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 31,619
Likes: 4
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
I really don't see how Arredondo can look people in the eye in that town. Much less serve as a city councilman, and retain his position as school police chief.

South Texas Mantra;

" Hey man! He’s my cousin!!!"


Founder
Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester

"Come, shall we go and kill us venison?
And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools,
Being native burghers of this desert city,
Should in their own confines with forked heads
Have their round haunches gored."

WS

Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 45,028
Likes: 25
R
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
R
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 45,028
Likes: 25
Even a basic centralized key control system location would have worked.


A simple finger touch code control box.

Keys colored to corresponding color on locks.......

So feelings didnt get hurt cause "keys are power" and make someone important to some in their minds is what this boils down to in a way in the giant fuuuuck up of events that day.

Many on here know of what I speak of with key control dynamics.

Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 69,649
Likes: 12
Campfire Kahuna
Online Content
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 69,649
Likes: 12
Originally Posted by Irving_D
Bull s hit, they had a mother that ran into that school and grabbed her kids from two separate class rooms while the officers had their dicks in their hands.

I don't disagree with you.

But the way that is portrayed is maybe a bit different than the reality.

Yes, she got her kids out of a different classroom, in a different bldg, while the shooter was pinned down in another.

Not making light of what she did at all. Just saying the school is comprised of many buildings.


Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla!
IC B3

Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 18,125
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 18,125
What are an SRO’s daily duties?

Confirming doors and windows are locked and functional?

Keeping an eye peeled for bad guys?

Is that it?


~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 45,028
Likes: 25
R
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
R
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 45,028
Likes: 25
Originally Posted by SandBilly
What are an SRO’s daily duties?

Confirming doors and windows are locked and functional?

Keeping an eye peeled for bad guys?

Is that it?

Going to the sound of the gunfire and putting your life on the line for others also.
Let's not forget that one.
👍👍👍

Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 18,125
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 18,125
Originally Posted by renegade50
Originally Posted by SandBilly
What are an SRO’s daily duties?

Confirming doors and windows are locked and functional?

Keeping an eye peeled for bad guys?

Is that it?

Going to the sound of the gunfire and putting your life on the line for others also.
Let's not forget that one.
👍👍👍

Right right, that’s an important one.


~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 69,649
Likes: 12
Campfire Kahuna
Online Content
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 69,649
Likes: 12
Originally Posted by SandBilly
What are an SRO’s daily duties?

Confirming doors and windows are locked and functional?

Keeping an eye peeled for bad guys?

Is that it?


That, and dealing with the thugs going to school daily.

Like the one who murdered to kids. That little evil fugger KNEW how the school system worked there, and purposely targeted the elementary school because he knew most of the SRO's were busy with thugs at the high school and jr. High.



FWIW, school districts who have their own police want to have control over what kids are arrested and prosecuted. That's why they don't want real cops in their schools, because the school district doesn't want the kids to actually have consequences for their actions.


Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla!
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 31,619
Likes: 4
K
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
K
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 31,619
Likes: 4
Originally Posted by SandBilly
What are an SRO’s daily duties?

Confirming doors and windows are locked and functional?

Keeping an eye peeled for bad guys?

Is that it?

I dunno. We had a discussion with local chief. When SRO was hitting on our underage daughter when a high school freshman. Seems he was making a hobby out of it.

Apparently, that incident got me, yet again, out of jury duty.


Founder
Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester

"Come, shall we go and kill us venison?
And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools,
Being native burghers of this desert city,
Should in their own confines with forked heads
Have their round haunches gored."

WS

Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 14,716
Likes: 2
S
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
S
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 14,716
Likes: 2
I guess a designated compact charge of C4 wouldn’t have sprung that door!

These folks are LOST!!


Even birds know not to land downwind!
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 37,905
Likes: 2
Campfire 'Bwana
OP Online Content
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 37,905
Likes: 2
Several officers went right in. The key situation was what it was, can’t breach the doors. The next obvious thing was windows, both as a point of access and to prevent the shooter from shooting people outside.

Still haven’t heard anything about that. Could be they were small and high up or absent entirely.


"...if the gentlemen of Virginia shall send us a dozen of their sons, we would take great care in their education, instruct them in all we know, and make men of them." Canasatego 1744
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 18,125
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 18,125
They’re preparing these kids for the real world, the real world of no consequences.

If they eliminated the repeat offender thugs they wouldn’t have that problem. Same same


~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 18,125
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 18,125
Originally Posted by kaywoodie
Originally Posted by SandBilly
What are an SRO’s daily duties?

Confirming doors and windows are locked and functional?

Keeping an eye peeled for bad guys?

Is that it?

I dunno. We had a discussion with local chief. When SRO was hitting on our underage daughter when a high school freshman. Seems he was making a hobby out of it.

Apparently, that incident got me, yet again, out of jury duty.

🤦‍♂️

I know what you said…lol


~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 69,649
Likes: 12
Campfire Kahuna
Online Content
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 69,649
Likes: 12
Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
Several officers went right in. The key situation was what it was, can’t breach the doors.

I bet if police would have thought there were a drug operation in there, they'd have knocked the door down pretty quick.


Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla!
Page 1 of 9 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9

Moderated by  RickBin 

Link Copied to Clipboard
AX24

573 members (1_deuce, 160user, 1beaver_shooter, 1234, 12344mag, 1OntarioJim, 52 invisible), 2,259 guests, and 1,313 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums81
Topics1,192,135
Posts18,483,942
Members73,966
Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023


 


Fish & Game Departments | Solunar Tables | Mission Statement | Privacy Policy | Contact Us | DMCA
Hunting | Fishing | Camping | Backpacking | Reloading | Campfire Forums | Gear Shop
Copyright © 2000-2024 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved.



Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
(Release build 20201027)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 7.3.33 Page Time: 0.142s Queries: 55 (0.012s) Memory: 0.9133 MB (Peak: 1.0293 MB) Data Comp: Zlib Server Time: 2024-05-02 13:34:11 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS