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Originally Posted by plumbum
Originally Posted by TheKid
Kinda like Huntsman’s saying about everybody wants to do cowboy stuff until it’s time to do cowboy stuff.

Everybody wants to live in the country until the neighbors want to do country stuff. Oh no! My neighbors have a goat or a coon hound. Oh no! The neighbors shoot cans out behind their barn while I was trying to take a nap after my bubble bath. Oh goodness! Those pesky neighbors have chickens and ducks. The nerve of some people! Those hicks were working on a pickup out in front of their house.

I know let’s elect a bunch of dogooder Karens into a more restrictive government than the already restrictive state, federal, and local governments we pretend to hate so we can teach them a lesson. Good call

If I move in next to the Clampetts, that is on me.

I should be able to move into a place where I do not have to worry about the Clampetts moving in next to me.

Some folks don't want to live next to a flea-ridden junkyard with baying hounds.

HOA's exist for a reason, and people put up with them for a reason.

Maybe baying hounds running all over the place don't bother you, just like ghetto POS loud car music doesn't bother those playing it. I don't want others disturbing my peaceful enjoyment and I won't disturb theirs. HOA's are the only sure way to maintain status-quo.

I don't live in one, and I don't like them, but I know why they exist.
For pussies that want to live "in the country" but don't really want to "live" in the country.


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Originally Posted by plumbum
Originally Posted by TheKid
Kinda like Huntsman’s saying about everybody wants to do cowboy stuff until it’s time to do cowboy stuff.

Everybody wants to live in the country until the neighbors want to do country stuff. Oh no! My neighbors have a goat or a coon hound. Oh no! The neighbors shoot cans out behind their barn while I was trying to take a nap after my bubble bath. Oh goodness! Those pesky neighbors have chickens and ducks. The nerve of some people! Those hicks were working on a pickup out in front of their house.

I know let’s elect a bunch of dogooder Karens into a more restrictive government than the already restrictive state, federal, and local governments we pretend to hate so we can teach them a lesson. Good call

If I move in next to the Clampetts, that is on me.

I should be able to move into a place where I do not have to worry about the Clampetts moving in next to me.

Some folks don't want to live next to a flea-ridden junkyard with baying hounds.

HOA's exist for a reason, and people put up with them for a reason.

Maybe baying hounds running all over the place don't bother you, just like ghetto POS loud car music doesn't bother those playing it. I don't want others disturbing my peaceful enjoyment and I won't disturb theirs. HOA's are the only sure way to maintain status-quo.

I don't live in one, and I don't like them, but I know why they exist.
Is it only hillbilly types that can’t move in next to you or does it apply to blacks, Mexicans, and Indians too?

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A lot to be said for sweeping your own front porch


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For those considering moving into an area with an HOA....................

read this book first:

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/609731.The_Association


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Originally Posted by 10gaugemag
Originally Posted by plumbum
Originally Posted by TheKid
Kinda like Huntsman’s saying about everybody wants to do cowboy stuff until it’s time to do cowboy stuff.

Everybody wants to live in the country until the neighbors want to do country stuff. Oh no! My neighbors have a goat or a coon hound. Oh no! The neighbors shoot cans out behind their barn while I was trying to take a nap after my bubble bath. Oh goodness! Those pesky neighbors have chickens and ducks. The nerve of some people! Those hicks were working on a pickup out in front of their house.

I know let’s elect a bunch of dogooder Karens into a more restrictive government than the already restrictive state, federal, and local governments we pretend to hate so we can teach them a lesson. Good call

If I move in next to the Clampetts, that is on me.

I should be able to move into a place where I do not have to worry about the Clampetts moving in next to me.

Some folks don't want to live next to a flea-ridden junkyard with baying hounds.

HOA's exist for a reason, and people put up with them for a reason.

Maybe baying hounds running all over the place don't bother you, just like ghetto POS loud car music doesn't bother those playing it. I don't want others disturbing my peaceful enjoyment and I won't disturb theirs. HOA's are the only sure way to maintain status-quo.

I don't live in one, and I don't like them, but I know why they exist.
For pussies that want to live "in the country" but don't really want to "live" in the country.

There is an awful lot of real estate in between civilization and third world trash heap hound dog hookworm squalor. It is not one or the other. Your efforts to equate manliness exclusively to the above is interesting, but a failure.

You know HOA's are voluntary, right? They are no threat to anybody unless one is a slob who cannot read real estate documents. Sweeping a porch and living cleanly and quietly does not make somebody a pussy. Neither does wanting a neighbor who does the same.

HOA's exist for a reason, probably including dealing with people who think living cleanly and quietly is only for pussies.

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What is this HOA of which you speak?

An insurance policy against this becoming your neighbor.

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I would take that over any HOA
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Y'all have heard the names of different groups of critters, right.

A gaggle of geese

A murder of crows.


well, here's a new one for you....................






















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The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men.
In it is contentment
In it is death and all you seek
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Originally Posted by plumbum
Originally Posted by 10gaugemag
Originally Posted by plumbum
Originally Posted by TheKid
Kinda like Huntsman’s saying about everybody wants to do cowboy stuff until it’s time to do cowboy stuff.

Everybody wants to live in the country until the neighbors want to do country stuff. Oh no! My neighbors have a goat or a coon hound. Oh no! The neighbors shoot cans out behind their barn while I was trying to take a nap after my bubble bath. Oh goodness! Those pesky neighbors have chickens and ducks. The nerve of some people! Those hicks were working on a pickup out in front of their house.

I know let’s elect a bunch of dogooder Karens into a more restrictive government than the already restrictive state, federal, and local governments we pretend to hate so we can teach them a lesson. Good call

If I move in next to the Clampetts, that is on me.

I should be able to move into a place where I do not have to worry about the Clampetts moving in next to me.

Some folks don't want to live next to a flea-ridden junkyard with baying hounds.

HOA's exist for a reason, and people put up with them for a reason.

Maybe baying hounds running all over the place don't bother you, just like ghetto POS loud car music doesn't bother those playing it. I don't want others disturbing my peaceful enjoyment and I won't disturb theirs. HOA's are the only sure way to maintain status-quo.

I don't live in one, and I don't like them, but I know why they exist.
For pussies that want to live "in the country" but don't really want to "live" in the country.

There is an awful lot of real estate in between civilization and third world trash heap hound dog hookworm squalor. It is not one or the other. Your efforts to equate manliness exclusively to the above is interesting, but a failure.

You know HOA's are voluntary, right? They are no threat to anybody unless one is a slob who cannot read real estate documents. Sweeping a porch and living cleanly and quietly does not make somebody a pussy. Neither does wanting a neighbor who does the same.

HOA's exist for a reason, probably including dealing with people who think living cleanly and quietly is only for pussies.
Sweeping ones own porch means minding ones own business, nothing to do w being "clean".

Yep voluntary which is why I volunteer to not buy in an HOA development.

One can live clean and quiet in one and still be in violation. Vehicles, boats/trailers, paint colors, plants, gardens, have to have certain styles of mailboxes, can't work on a vehicle in the driveway.....the list goes on.

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Originally Posted by 10gaugemag
Originally Posted by plumbum
Originally Posted by 10gaugemag
Originally Posted by plumbum
Originally Posted by TheKid
Kinda like Huntsman’s saying about everybody wants to do cowboy stuff until it’s time to do cowboy stuff.

Everybody wants to live in the country until the neighbors want to do country stuff. Oh no! My neighbors have a goat or a coon hound. Oh no! The neighbors shoot cans out behind their barn while I was trying to take a nap after my bubble bath. Oh goodness! Those pesky neighbors have chickens and ducks. The nerve of some people! Those hicks were working on a pickup out in front of their house.

I know let’s elect a bunch of dogooder Karens into a more restrictive government than the already restrictive state, federal, and local governments we pretend to hate so we can teach them a lesson. Good call

If I move in next to the Clampetts, that is on me.

I should be able to move into a place where I do not have to worry about the Clampetts moving in next to me.

Some folks don't want to live next to a flea-ridden junkyard with baying hounds.

HOA's exist for a reason, and people put up with them for a reason.

Maybe baying hounds running all over the place don't bother you, just like ghetto POS loud car music doesn't bother those playing it. I don't want others disturbing my peaceful enjoyment and I won't disturb theirs. HOA's are the only sure way to maintain status-quo.

I don't live in one, and I don't like them, but I know why they exist.
For pussies that want to live "in the country" but don't really want to "live" in the country.

There is an awful lot of real estate in between civilization and third world trash heap hound dog hookworm squalor. It is not one or the other. Your efforts to equate manliness exclusively to the above is interesting, but a failure.

You know HOA's are voluntary, right? They are no threat to anybody unless one is a slob who cannot read real estate documents. Sweeping a porch and living cleanly and quietly does not make somebody a pussy. Neither does wanting a neighbor who does the same.

HOA's exist for a reason, probably including dealing with people who think living cleanly and quietly is only for pussies.
Sweeping ones own porch means minding ones own business, nothing to do w being "clean".

Yep voluntary which is why I volunteer to not buy in an HOA development.

One can live clean and quiet in one and still be in violation. Vehicles, boats/trailers, paint colors, plants, gardens, have to have certain styles of mailboxes, can't work on a vehicle in the driveway.....the list goes on.

And God forbid you want to play Edgar Winter's Frankenstein, loud, on the patio speakers, at 9pm.


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In it is contentment
In it is death and all you seek
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Slob neighbors will eventually get enough of their 28" tires going flat and their pit bulls chowing down on antifreeze-laced hot dog snacks, and find somewhere else to live.


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Originally Posted by TheKid
Originally Posted by plumbum
Originally Posted by TheKid
Kinda like Huntsman’s saying about everybody wants to do cowboy stuff until it’s time to do cowboy stuff.

Everybody wants to live in the country until the neighbors want to do country stuff. Oh no! My neighbors have a goat or a coon hound. Oh no! The neighbors shoot cans out behind their barn while I was trying to take a nap after my bubble bath. Oh goodness! Those pesky neighbors have chickens and ducks. The nerve of some people! Those hicks were working on a pickup out in front of their house.

I know let’s elect a bunch of dogooder Karens into a more restrictive government than the already restrictive state, federal, and local governments we pretend to hate so we can teach them a lesson. Good call

If I move in next to the Clampetts, that is on me.

I should be able to move into a place where I do not have to worry about the Clampetts moving in next to me.

Some folks don't want to live next to a flea-ridden junkyard with baying hounds.

HOA's exist for a reason, and people put up with them for a reason.

Maybe baying hounds running all over the place don't bother you, just like ghetto POS loud car music doesn't bother those playing it. I don't want others disturbing my peaceful enjoyment and I won't disturb theirs. HOA's are the only sure way to maintain status-quo.

I don't live in one, and I don't like them, but I know why they exist.
Is it only hillbilly types that can’t move in next to you or does it apply to blacks, Mexicans, and Indians too?

As long as they are clean and quiet, I don't care who moves in.

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Why would anyone want to "get back at a HOA"?

Anyone moving into a subdivision would have got a copy of the covenants before moving so they knew the rules going in. Don't like it don't move there.

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Originally Posted by plumbum
There is an awful lot of real estate in between civilization and third world trash heap hound dog hookworm squalor. It is not one or the other. Your efforts to equate manliness exclusively to the above is interesting, but a failure.

You know HOA's are voluntary, right? They are no threat to anybody unless one is a slob who cannot read real estate documents. Sweeping a porch and living cleanly and quietly does not make somebody a pussy. Neither does wanting a neighbor who does the same.

HOA's exist for a reason, probably including dealing with people who think living cleanly and quietly is only for pussies.
This post fairly well captures the matter - don't join a HOA (buy the property) if you don't wish to abide by the covenants and elect sensible officers to run the HOA. We had decent covenants and a sensible HOA setup at outset - it went cockeyed - we worked to fix it and did.

Overall, it is an exercise in human community. If you don't want neighbors, locate accordingly. If you choose to have neighbors, the community is going to be what the combo of all property owners make it - whether or not you have the HOA. In almost all jurisdictions, the HOA is a quasi corporation defined by laws and its rules can be revised - even abandoned - and the covenants can be revised by some sort of a majority agreement by landowners. Requires cooperative effort by the members.

Most of the time, the factual existence of the HOA is not a problem - the problems derive from improper and/or "illegal" behavior - either neighbors violating the covenants or HOA leaders doing bad stuff - or BOTH. By and large, the nature and quality of the community is determined by the principles of the residents - in older times by cooperative understandings - in more recent times by quasi legal entities.


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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Originally Posted by TheKid
Kinda like Huntsman’s saying about everybody wants to do cowboy stuff until it’s time to do cowboy stuff.

Everybody wants to live in the country until the neighbors want to do country stuff. Oh no! My neighbors have a goat or a coon hound. Oh no! The neighbors shoot cans out behind their barn while I was trying to take a nap after my bubble bath. Oh goodness! Those pesky neighbors have chickens and ducks. The nerve of some people! Those hicks were working on a pickup out in front of their house.

I know let’s elect a bunch of dogooder Karens into a more restrictive government than the already restrictive state, federal, and local governments we pretend to hate so we can teach them a lesson. Good call

Yep.

Yup


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Originally Posted by plumbum
Originally Posted by TheKid
Originally Posted by plumbum
Originally Posted by TheKid
Kinda like Huntsman’s saying about everybody wants to do cowboy stuff until it’s time to do cowboy stuff.

Everybody wants to live in the country until the neighbors want to do country stuff. Oh no! My neighbors have a goat or a coon hound. Oh no! The neighbors shoot cans out behind their barn while I was trying to take a nap after my bubble bath. Oh goodness! Those pesky neighbors have chickens and ducks. The nerve of some people! Those hicks were working on a pickup out in front of their house.

I know let’s elect a bunch of dogooder Karens into a more restrictive government than the already restrictive state, federal, and local governments we pretend to hate so we can teach them a lesson. Good call

If I move in next to the Clampetts, that is on me.

I should be able to move into a place where I do not have to worry about the Clampetts moving in next to me.

Some folks don't want to live next to a flea-ridden junkyard with baying hounds.

HOA's exist for a reason, and people put up with them for a reason.

Maybe baying hounds running all over the place don't bother you, just like ghetto POS loud car music doesn't bother those playing it. I don't want others disturbing my peaceful enjoyment and I won't disturb theirs. HOA's are the only sure way to maintain status-quo.

I don't live in one, and I don't like them, but I know why they exist.
Is it only hillbilly types that can’t move in next to you or does it apply to blacks, Mexicans, and Indians too?

As long as they are clean and quiet, I don't care who moves in.

Please define "clean" and "quiet"?


The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men.
In it is contentment
In it is death and all you seek
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Originally Posted by Valsdad
Originally Posted by plumbum
Originally Posted by TheKid
Originally Posted by plumbum
Originally Posted by TheKid
Kinda like Huntsman’s saying about everybody wants to do cowboy stuff until it’s time to do cowboy stuff.

Everybody wants to live in the country until the neighbors want to do country stuff. Oh no! My neighbors have a goat or a coon hound. Oh no! The neighbors shoot cans out behind their barn while I was trying to take a nap after my bubble bath. Oh goodness! Those pesky neighbors have chickens and ducks. The nerve of some people! Those hicks were working on a pickup out in front of their house.

I know let’s elect a bunch of dogooder Karens into a more restrictive government than the already restrictive state, federal, and local governments we pretend to hate so we can teach them a lesson. Good call

If I move in next to the Clampetts, that is on me.

I should be able to move into a place where I do not have to worry about the Clampetts moving in next to me.

Some folks don't want to live next to a flea-ridden junkyard with baying hounds.

HOA's exist for a reason, and people put up with them for a reason.

Maybe baying hounds running all over the place don't bother you, just like ghetto POS loud car music doesn't bother those playing it. I don't want others disturbing my peaceful enjoyment and I won't disturb theirs. HOA's are the only sure way to maintain status-quo.

I don't live in one, and I don't like them, but I know why they exist.
Is it only hillbilly types that can’t move in next to you or does it apply to blacks, Mexicans, and Indians too?

As long as they are clean and quiet, I don't care who moves in.

Please define "clean" and "quiet"?

Homosexual.


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Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by Valsdad
Originally Posted by plumbum
Originally Posted by TheKid
Originally Posted by plumbum
Originally Posted by TheKid
Kinda like Huntsman’s saying about everybody wants to do cowboy stuff until it’s time to do cowboy stuff.

Everybody wants to live in the country until the neighbors want to do country stuff. Oh no! My neighbors have a goat or a coon hound. Oh no! The neighbors shoot cans out behind their barn while I was trying to take a nap after my bubble bath. Oh goodness! Those pesky neighbors have chickens and ducks. The nerve of some people! Those hicks were working on a pickup out in front of their house.

I know let’s elect a bunch of dogooder Karens into a more restrictive government than the already restrictive state, federal, and local governments we pretend to hate so we can teach them a lesson. Good call

If I move in next to the Clampetts, that is on me.

I should be able to move into a place where I do not have to worry about the Clampetts moving in next to me.

Some folks don't want to live next to a flea-ridden junkyard with baying hounds.

HOA's exist for a reason, and people put up with them for a reason.

Maybe baying hounds running all over the place don't bother you, just like ghetto POS loud car music doesn't bother those playing it. I don't want others disturbing my peaceful enjoyment and I won't disturb theirs. HOA's are the only sure way to maintain status-quo.

I don't live in one, and I don't like them, but I know why they exist.
Is it only hillbilly types that can’t move in next to you or does it apply to blacks, Mexicans, and Indians too?

As long as they are clean and quiet, I don't care who moves in.

Please define "clean" and "quiet"?

Homosexual.


Black?

Mexican?

Irish?


The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men.
In it is contentment
In it is death and all you seek
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Originally Posted by Valsdad
Originally Posted by plumbum
Originally Posted by TheKid
Originally Posted by plumbum
Originally Posted by TheKid
Kinda like Huntsman’s saying about everybody wants to do cowboy stuff until it’s time to do cowboy stuff.

Everybody wants to live in the country until the neighbors want to do country stuff. Oh no! My neighbors have a goat or a coon hound. Oh no! The neighbors shoot cans out behind their barn while I was trying to take a nap after my bubble bath. Oh goodness! Those pesky neighbors have chickens and ducks. The nerve of some people! Those hicks were working on a pickup out in front of their house.

I know let’s elect a bunch of dogooder Karens into a more restrictive government than the already restrictive state, federal, and local governments we pretend to hate so we can teach them a lesson. Good call

If I move in next to the Clampetts, that is on me.

I should be able to move into a place where I do not have to worry about the Clampetts moving in next to me.

Some folks don't want to live next to a flea-ridden junkyard with baying hounds.

HOA's exist for a reason, and people put up with them for a reason.

Maybe baying hounds running all over the place don't bother you, just like ghetto POS loud car music doesn't bother those playing it. I don't want others disturbing my peaceful enjoyment and I won't disturb theirs. HOA's are the only sure way to maintain status-quo.

I don't live in one, and I don't like them, but I know why they exist.
Is it only hillbilly types that can’t move in next to you or does it apply to blacks, Mexicans, and Indians too?

As long as they are clean and quiet, I don't care who moves in.

Please define "clean" and "quiet"?

I use the ordinary dictionary definitions, there for you to find.

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Originally Posted by Valsdad
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by Valsdad
Originally Posted by plumbum
Originally Posted by TheKid
Originally Posted by plumbum
Originally Posted by TheKid
Kinda like Huntsman’s saying about everybody wants to do cowboy stuff until it’s time to do cowboy stuff.

Everybody wants to live in the country until the neighbors want to do country stuff. Oh no! My neighbors have a goat or a coon hound. Oh no! The neighbors shoot cans out behind their barn while I was trying to take a nap after my bubble bath. Oh goodness! Those pesky neighbors have chickens and ducks. The nerve of some people! Those hicks were working on a pickup out in front of their house.

I know let’s elect a bunch of dogooder Karens into a more restrictive government than the already restrictive state, federal, and local governments we pretend to hate so we can teach them a lesson. Good call

If I move in next to the Clampetts, that is on me.

I should be able to move into a place where I do not have to worry about the Clampetts moving in next to me.

Some folks don't want to live next to a flea-ridden junkyard with baying hounds.

HOA's exist for a reason, and people put up with them for a reason.

Maybe baying hounds running all over the place don't bother you, just like ghetto POS loud car music doesn't bother those playing it. I don't want others disturbing my peaceful enjoyment and I won't disturb theirs. HOA's are the only sure way to maintain status-quo.

I don't live in one, and I don't like them, but I know why they exist.
Is it only hillbilly types that can’t move in next to you or does it apply to blacks, Mexicans, and Indians too?

As long as they are clean and quiet, I don't care who moves in.

Please define "clean" and "quiet"?

Homosexual.


Black?

Mexican?

Irish?

What about them?

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I don't know why anyone would willingly invite more government control into their lives, that's their choice.

Welcome back Scott.

Good catch. It's Steelhead no doubt.

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