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How the hell is this gonna work once everybody comes home from work and plugs in their electric cars to charge? I’ve noticed the TVA isn’t building more power plants, at least not in my area.
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During a dry run BPA asked the region to conserve. We did so well they had to raise prices to cover expenses.
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If you look at what they’re mandating as far as energy sources and capacity that’s being built you could come to the conclusion that they expect much lower demand for energy and food. Kind of like they don’t expect to need to serve many millions of people…
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Citizens in Small towns and boroughs that have their own generation stations are about to get hit with 50% increases in their electric bills due to natural gas prices.
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How the hell is this gonna work once everybody comes home from work and plugs in their electric cars to charge? I’ve noticed the TVA isn’t building more power plants, at least not in my area. Quit being a total BUZZKILL FUNSUCKER and making valid points. You are sucking the fun out of their idea of saving the world in their silly little electric car during Pride Month of all times. Next thing you will say is they shouldn't be buying all those electric phones, laptops, iPad, Ipods, and rechargeable vibrating anal intruders.
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2022 Summer Reliability Assessment May 2022...Key Findings
NERC’s annual SRA covers the upcoming four-month (June–September) summer period. This assessment provides an evaluation of generation resource and transmission system adequacy and energy sufficiency to meet projected summer peak demands and operating reserves. This assessment identifies potential reliability issues of interest and regional topics of concern. While the scope of this seasonal assessment is focused on the upcoming summer, the key findings are consistent with risks and issues that NERC has highlighted in the 2021 Long-Term Reliability Assessment and other earlier reliability assessments and reports.
The following findings are NERC and the ERO Enterprise’s independent evaluation of electricity generation and transmission capacity and potential operational concerns that may need to be addressed for the 2022 summer:
Summer Resource Adequacy Assessment and Energy Risk Analysis
Midcontinent ISO (MISO) faces a capacity shortfall in its North and Central areas, resulting in high risk of energy emergencies during peak summer conditions. Capacity shortfall projections reported in the 2021 LTRA and as far back as the 2018 LTRA have continued. Load serving entities in 4 of 11 zones entered the annual planning resource auction (PRA) in April 2022 without enough owned or contracted capacity to cover their requirements. Across MISO, peak demand projections have increased by 1.7% since last summer due in part to a return to normal demand patterns that have been altered in prior years by the pandemic. However, more impactful is the drop in capacity in the most recent PRA: MISO will have 3,200 MW (2.3%) less generation capacity than in the summer of 2021. System operators in MISO are more likely to need operating mitigations, such as load modifying resources or non-firm imports, to meet reserve requirements under normal peak summer conditions. More extreme temperatures, higher generation outages, or low wind conditions expose the MISO North and Central areas to higher risk of temporary operator-initiated load shedding to maintain system reliability.
At the start of the summer, a key transmission line connecting MISO’s northern and southern areas will be out of service. Restoration continues on a 4-mile section of 500 kV transmission line that was damaged by a tornado during severe storms on December 10, 2021. The transmission outage affects 1,000 MW of firm transfers between the Midwestern and Southern MISO system that includes parts of Arkansas, Louisiana, and Mississippi. The transmission line is expected to be restored at the end of June 2022. ...
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During a dry run BPA asked the region to conserve. We did so well they had to raise prices to cover expenses. Remember that spring some years ago when the river was so high that the dams were producing more power than the grid could handle. They had to shut down all the windmills. The geniuses at BPA paid the windmill owners anyway for producing nothing. Normally when a company over produces, they shut down, lay off, and ride it out. They don't get paid for what they don't produce.
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We don’t have enough electricity to cover immediate needs. Here in Nowhere, Tennessee, there are over 200 building permits issued within 1 1/2 miles of me that are being built as we speak. I’ve heard no one address this concern.
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Cumberland-TVA Wells Creek Fossil only had a single unit running Friday
Thought it was odd.
Outage is usually performed in the fall, less demand months.
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I will stuff a cloth under the front and back doors. We are all in this together.
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I will stuff a cloth under the front and back doors. We are all in this together. Thank you for the sacrifice.
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How the hell is this gonna work once everybody comes home from work and plugs in their electric cars to charge? I’ve noticed the TVA isn’t building more power plants, at least not in my area. The Dem agenda's working exceedingly well, it appears.
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I see no reason to panic, the government is in charge and headed by the best president money can buy......lol
I may not be smart but I can lift heavy objects
I have a shotgun so I have no need for a 30-06.....
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I see no reason to panic, the government is in charge and headed by the best president money can buy......lol You sure know how to make a fella feel better. Thanks.
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Isn’t that funny!! We’ve torn down a lot of the coal fired power plants in Michigan, as well as other states I’m sure. Now we have power shortage’s.
Well we're Green and we're Gold, and we play better when it's cold. All us Cheese heads have our favorite superstar. We love Brett Favre.
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My BIL works for a power utility company in Kentucky. My wife recently messaged him to ask what he thought about the current concerns about power shortages.
In a nutshell, he expects blackouts to occur in the west, mentioning Texas, but including the possibility of them being widespread. East of the Mississippi, he believes blackouts are less likely due to the use of NG for power generation. He said to expect rates to double or worse in the coming months/year.
4 out of 5 Great Lakes prefer Michigan.
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TVA still runs several Nuke fired plants, right?
FJB & FJT
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TVA still runs several Nuke fired plants, right? Browns Ferry was the one off of the my head Used the google for the whole list Browns Ferry, near Athens, Alabama Sequoyah, in Soddy-Daisy, Tennessee Watts Bar, near Spring City, Tennessee
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2022 Summer Reliability Assessment May 2022Alot of information in there, but in a nutshell.................it's no bueno.
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