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Originally Posted by auk1124
Evil Black Cop Killer Bullets.

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What I carry in my Delta Elite/Wilson custom shop. The county I used to live in had the distinction of having the very first fatality with LEO’s using Black Talons. My friend was our sheriff. Winchester contacted him and requested information and a copy of the post mortem x-Ray of the bad guy…telling my friend they were the first….

It was a domestic situation with a husband threatening to cut his wife’s throat with a butcher knife. He was told to drop the knife and refused to do so. He moved the blade against her throat like he was going to slice her in two and the deputy shot him in the side of the head, obviously dropping him in an instant.

I got to see the X-Ray. It showed a beautiful typically expanded Black Talon lodged on the other side of the perps thick skull. Just like in the advertisements. Sad way for our little county to make history, but thank God the Deputy was a good shot.


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Blue Tape and SWFA scopes


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i remember back in the 80s seeing Quik Point scopes that looked like a test tube

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Originally Posted by Jericho
i remember back in the 80s seeing Quik Point scopes that looked like a test tube


I vividly remember the ads for those with Slim Pickens. Oh how I miss those days. The gun/hunting magazines were fabulous. Not an AR in sight, unless it was in Soldier Of Fortune.

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I shot the Winchester Fail-safe in my 300 H&H...very accurate
Never used a brake but have had a couple of rifles Magna Ported
Winchester Fail-Safes, renamed because Chucky Schumer got his panties all bunched up when they were called Winchester Black Talons....you know, Chuckie's "Cop Killer" bullets.

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Godogs57,

I’m glad the Black Talon bullet worked on that bad guy for sure, but as devil’s advocate here, unprotected, unarmored head shots are almost always game changers, if not fight stoppers, with most mid to heavier bullets. I’m glad they work for you also. For what it’s worth(maybe nothing) I did testing way back when the Black Talons came out, with 10% ballistic gelatin, wet newspaper, half frozen freezer burnt turkey, milk jugs full of water lined up, etc, etc. While most of the 10 mm/.40 s&w bullets performances were in the pretty desirable to acceptable, there were some that under performed, and I decided against using them. The Black Talons were quite disappointing, and even more so when I placed a piece of denim in front of the medium. They plugged and didn’t expand, and the simulated wound channel damage was quite minimal. The little denim disc I pulled out was neat though. I had great performance with Nosler JHP’s hot rodded to near Cor-Bon velocity, denim or no denim, with a honorable mention to PMC Starfires, Federal Hydra Shoks, and Rem Golden Sabres. This being said, I wouldn’t want to catch any of them! Not second guessing you sir, or trying to stir the old crap pot, just sharing my experience with the Black Talons. Happy Shooting! 😎

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Originally Posted by SCGunNut
Originally Posted by Jericho
i remember back in the 80s seeing Quik Point scopes that looked like a test tube


I vividly remember the ads for those with Slim Pickens. Oh how I miss those days. The gun/hunting magazines were fabulous. Not an AR in sight, unless it was in Soldier Of Fortune.

Not an AR in sight because there was only one....Colt
And they were $3k in the 80's


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Originally Posted by Swamplord
morons who leave the Savage sticker on their new POS rifle


Same guys.

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Originally Posted by Doc_Holidude
Godogs57,

I’m glad the Black Talon bullet worked on that bad guy for sure, but as devil’s advocate here, unprotected, unarmored head shots are almost always game changers, if not fight stoppers, with most mid to heavier bullets. I’m glad they work for you also. For what it’s worth(maybe nothing) I did testing way back when the Black Talons came out, with 10% ballistic gelatin, wet newspaper, half frozen freezer burnt turkey, milk jugs full of water lined up, etc, etc. While most of the 10 mm/.40 s&w bullets performances were in the pretty desirable to acceptable, there were some that under performed, and I decided against using them. The Black Talons were quite disappointing, and even more so when I placed a piece of denim in front of the medium. They plugged and didn’t expand, and the simulated wound channel damage was quite minimal. The little denim disc I pulled out was neat though. I had great performance with Nosler JHP’s hot rodded to near Cor-Bon velocity, denim or no denim, with a honorable mention to PMC Starfires, Federal Hydra Shoks, and Rem Golden Sabres. This being said, I wouldn’t want to catch any of them! Not second guessing you sir, or trying to stir the old crap pot, just sharing my experience with the Black Talons. Happy Shooting! 😎

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Agree with you…a 22 LR to the skull would produce the same results. I’ve killed deer with Black Talons and Golden Sabres, both working extremely well. I remember the PMC Starfires! Gosh they made a wicked looking bullet when expanded.


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Originally Posted by auk1124
Originally Posted by Swamplord
morons who leave the Savage sticker on their new POS rifle


Same guys.

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Don't forget the guys with the Browning stickers. Or the "Salt Life" sticker in Nebraska


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Originally Posted by Teal
Originally Posted by auk1124
Originally Posted by Swamplord
morons who leave the Savage sticker on their new POS rifle


Same guys.

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Don't forget the guys with the Browning stickers. Or the "Salt Life" sticker in Nebraska


Let us not forget the moronic hanging bull scrotum nor the Calvin peeing stickers. (Not quite sure how we got here.)

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Originally Posted by Teal
Originally Posted by auk1124
Originally Posted by Swamplord
morons who leave the Savage sticker on their new POS rifle


Same guys.

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Don't forget the guys with the Browning stickers. Or the "Salt Life" sticker in Nebraska
How in the hayul could you fergit Yeti stickers?


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Originally Posted by Godogs57
Originally Posted by Teal
Originally Posted by auk1124
Originally Posted by Swamplord
morons who leave the Savage sticker on their new POS rifle


Same guys.

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Don't forget the guys with the Browning stickers. Or the "Salt Life" sticker in Nebraska
How in the hayul could you fergit Yeti stickers?

I honestly don't see them all that much.

It's really the top 2 - Browning and Salt Life - then the diesel engine of choice


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Dang every country boy here has at least one, usually three, Yeti stickers on his truck.


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Originally Posted by Godogs57
Dang every country boy here has at least one, usually three, Yeti stickers on his truck.

Yeti coolers are a rednecks Rolex. Neither do anything a lesser priced alternative doesn't already do. They're just to show off to your friends.

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