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70gr good old H-4831 under any 200 grain or 220 grain bullet, it's Gold, i've learned once you reach a certain level [2700-2900 fps] it doesn't matter provided accuracy is there. Thats's great advice. I'd go one step further and say that my 30-06 load runs 2600fps with the excellent 200gr partition, so if one were so inclined to down load their H&H to 30-06 levels and it was accurate, it would still be a killing sob. I bought a 300H&H die set a year ago, still looking for the right rifle to come along. Eventually it will happen and keep my WBY, WSM, WM and 308 Norma magnum great company. It will likely be a pre 64 model 70. Always love winning "whose faster" bets against guys with 22" 30 cal magnums with my ancient 721 300 H&H. Who gives a chit about how fast its running and who t f uses a 22" 300 magnum? Shaking head here.. Accuracy is key dude. When you are using a good bullet, like the one I mention above, you can drop way down on velocity and it still hits like a sledge hammer. BTDT... Funny stuff BSA, i schooled a kid on speed the other day as he overheard me talking to a dude about the speed of my 16" barreled REPR house and farm guns, "2770 fps? the kid shrieked, that is slow and sucks."...............i said jr. let me math this for you, lets forget the 70 fps, 2700 fps is NINE football fields long, traveling that speed running to something going ZERO fps............dont you think you'd feel that>>>the kid said, Oh, okay, thanks. And yes sir again, dont think any animal could tell the difference between a 200gr partition at 2700 fps or 2900 fps from my H&H, the gold standard for me in my old H&H is the 220gr partitions at 2700, that's a plow, buddy, hope you find the right old Hollands Super 30.
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So far I've settled on 67gr of R22 and a Hornady 180gr BTSP. I haven't run it through a chronograph yet but it's probably about 2800-2900 FPS which means nothing as it groups well under an inch at 100 yards and I rarely have a shot at a deer farther than that. Next up is looking at 200gr Accubonds. If I get lucky and draw a Michigan Elk tag this is the rifle I'll take.
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Nice, hope you draw that tag and freezer an elk, i have an old Lyman receiver peep on my 300 H&H, 220 partitions at 2700 fps cover as far as i can see to shoot and ANY animal short of the Big 5.
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The Elk tag is a long shot but I drew in 2001 so it's possible. I have a free range Bison hunt set for December next year and will probably take it on that hunt.
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My magic recipe is 68.0 grs of IMR4350 over 180gr SPEER Grand Slams. 1" groups @ 100 yds and just over 3000 fps in my Rem 721 and my Win 70. Big medicine on elk. The last one I shot a couple years ago was 365 yds. Dropped her like a bad habit.
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Most of my shots on moose/bears are less than 200 yards.
I like IMR4831 with Barnes 200gr LRX.
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Anyone use the 150 grain TTSX??
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I have not worked with my 300 H&H enough, but here's my most accurate load so far: 300 H&H Winchester, Pre-64 70, 168 grain Nosler E-tip, 215 Primers, 67 Grain IMR4350, 0.81 MOA
I prefer classic. Semper Fi I used to run with the hare. Now I'm envious of the tortoise and I do my own stunts but rarely intentionally
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If you're interested in data for newer powders give 300 WSM info a look. Exactly what I do .
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Current load in mine is 68.0 of Staball 6.5 with a 180 Sierra TGK. Shoots as well as anything else in this old rifle (~1")
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Current load in mine is 68.0 of Staball 6.5 with a 180 Sierra TGK. Shoots as well as anything else in this old rifle (~1") Interesting! I’d have never guessed it works so well. I am looking forward to working with the old 300 a bit.
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Current load in mine is 68.0 of Staball 6.5 with a 180 Sierra TGK. Shoots as well as anything else in this old rifle (~1") Interesting! I’d have never guessed it works so well. I am looking forward to working with the old 300 a bit. The pictures you sent are very nice buddy. I have a die set for that rifle, if you are looking for one. I don't know if I'll get around to ever buying just the right 300 H&H. Looks like you found a great rifle though. Congrats!!
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Thanks BSA. looking forward to messing with the old horse.
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70gr good old H-4831 under any 200 grain or 220 grain bullet, it's Gold, i've learned once you reach a certain level [2700-2900 fps] it doesn't matter provided accuracy is there. Good intel Gunner. I’ll be reporting back on that soon.
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