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ability are so lousy today that all hunters have to tote a tripod with vise to support the rifle!! Nothing like having commercialism to kill the ability to learn effective field shooting procedure by employing one more gimmick!!
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Incoming!!! 3...2...1...
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ability are so lousy today that all hunters have to tote a tripod with vise to support the rifle!! Nothing like having commercialism to kill the ability to learn effective field shooting procedure by employing one more gimmick!! I agree Sharpsman. If I can't get it done while laying the rifle over the pack, or offhand, it's not going to get done...
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Incoming!!! 3...2...1...
🤣😂🤣 If you are waiting for stick to respond, I think he does most of his shooting off of a ruck... That's commendable. If I'm going to take a long shot, it's going to be off of my pack, since I always have it when I'm hunting...
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Many begin with a 10/22 and learn from watching TV, they never learn to be accurate
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I remember the first time I shot standing unsupported. I couldn't hit the side of a barn! I even thought I was a good shot because I could hit chipmunks in the head from 50 yards or so with a kid's .22 with patridge sights if all I saw was the glint from their eye.
Boy, was that ever a wake up!
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Last year I shot an elk offhand at about 60 to 70 yds. It was the 1st offhand shot I've taken on big game in 15 to 20 years. I always carry a single trekking pole. Besides helping an old man with his balance, with a little practice, it can be used for a very good improvised shooting stick.
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We better go back to front stuffers and open sights.
I will take every advantage I can get.
No I don't have bipod, shooting sticks or a gun holding tripod like a Bog Pod but if I hunted somewhere shots were longish and I didn't mind packing another item I wouldn't feel bad about using something that gets me near rock steady.
I am sure the old timers 60+ years ago were saying the same thing about scopes.
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Sharpsman: I simply attach a Harris Bi-Pod to my Hunting Rifles and attain most excellent field accuracy doing so - have done so for many decades now. Don't make the use of Bi-Pods or shooting sticks some kind of evil or weakness - it most certainly is not! Sheesh. Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
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We better go back to front stuffers and open sights. Im good w em to around 150 or so offhand 🙂 Amazing how guys at work, supposed deer hunters of experience....cant shoot well offhand. One admits hes always had a problem w offhand so takes a rest . Im cool w that way of thinking However, a couple others are sub 75 yards, even w a rest. Dont believe others can shoot good farther ( limit others based on their own poor skills ). The unbelievers shoot less than ideal setups and zero the week before the opener. Never see em on a range throughout the summer or heaven forbid, a competition. Ill bipod for chucks and yotes. But most times yote hunt without bipods ( caller so not too far shooting where we go ). Deer, may take a rest, go prone.....whatever it takes. But most shots offhand. Want to really get folks wound up? Tell em you shoot movers LOL ( nothing far for me when movin, but lots of folks think hammering a deer on the trot in timber to be some voodoo stuff ).
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So I guess we should all go back to iron sights or better yet a notch and bead . Nothing wrong with a shooter upping his game . I would rather see someone use a gadget than fugg it up . I like a shooting stick , or walking stick . Got a hickory walking stick my step daughter gave me a few years ago , has saved an ass busting a time or two . Last year my step son gave me a two legged deal . Thought it would be to cumbersome, not bad at all . And yeah I can get it done across a tree , pack , or against a tree . Unless it’s close I try to avoid off hand shots , espeacially beyond 100 yds . Not a good idea , unless you just don’t care about quick kills . Kenneth
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ability are so lousy today that all hunters have to tote a tripod with vise to support the rifle!! Nothing like having commercialism to kill the ability to learn effective field shooting procedure by employing one more gimmick!! Your statement just doesn't hold water under scrutiny. I've hunted with lots of old guys and most of them couldn't hit the broadside of a barn if they were inside the barn from field positions or offhand- especially offhand. I applaud anyone who takes measures to make more accurate shots close or far and practices with same. I've been using Harris bipods on my rifles for a great many years now and never leave camp any more without one on my rifle and I encourage everyone in my camp to have one handy at the minimum in their pack. I also used to think the bipod would throw off my offhand shooting but the elk I shot a year and a half ago from 125 yards didn't seem to mind and my aim was just as steady as it ever was IMO.... Sometimes I think it has become fashionable to rag on millenials for every little slight when actually they shoot as much as old guys do often. Every time I'm out at a range in the woods it is the millenials who are out shooting. Even if it is with AKs and ARs they are out there getting in the practice and burning up ammo. Lots of dads with their kids out shooting too these days. Instead of ragging on these folks how about encouraging them whenever you can...
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I’m looking for Uncle Sam tp provide every GI with tripod and vise! Already mounted scopes on their turtle rifles so vise be next!!
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ability are so lousy today that all hunters have to tote a tripod with vise to support the rifle!! Nothing like having commercialism to kill the ability to learn effective field shooting procedure by employing one more gimmick!! Your statement just doesn't hold water under scrutiny. I've hunted with lots of old guys and most of them couldn't hit the broadside of a barn if they were inside the barn from field positions or offhand- especially offhand. I applaud anyone who takes measures to make more accurate shots close or far and practices with same. I've been using Harris bipods on my rifles for a great many years now and never leave camp any more without one on my rifle and I encourage everyone in my camp to have one handy at the minimum in their pack. I also used to think the bipod would throw off my offhand shooting but the elk I shot a year and a half ago from 125 yards didn't seem to mind and my aim was just as steady as it ever was IMO.... Sometimes I think it has become fashionable to rag on millenials for every little slight when actually they shoot as much as old guys do often. Every time I'm out at a range in the woods it is the millenials who are out shooting. Even if it is with AKs and ARs they are out there getting in the practice and burning up ammo. Lots of dads with their kids out shooting too these days. Instead of ragging on these folks how about encouraging them whenever you can... Big +1. I've come to expect little from sharpsman except guaranteed cantankerism. My millennial hunting partner - if only to grind sharpsman's gears.
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I believe he's talking more about stuff like this:
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Your internet experience far outpaces your real world experience. But we knew that. ability are so lousy today that all hunters have to tote a tripod with vise to support the rifle!! Nothing like having commercialism to kill the ability to learn effective field shooting procedure by employing one more gimmick!! I agree Sharpsman. If I can't get it done while laying the rifle over the pack, or offhand, it's not going to get done...
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Meanwhile, our snipers are able to remain more concealed while maintaining or even improving accuracy utilizing things like tripods.
"These damn boomers and their scopes! If its not an iron sighted '03, its a gimmick!"
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Meanwhile, our snipers are able to remain more concealed while maintaining or even improving accuracy utilizing things like tripods.
"These damn boomers and their scopes! If its not an iron sighted '03, its a gimmick!" Whatever works for you is what I say. I'm just glad that young people are shooting actual rifles out in the actual world. I just bought another Harris bipod . . .
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I don't mind a 12lb rifle, but I couldn't imagine hauling all that schit around on a hunt and worse, hauling it out after a kill.
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Making consistent 400 yard shot hits was unheard of 40 years ago. Only thing Ive observed is not many practice off hand shot or snap shooting ( like jumping a bedded buck or bull) and miss many shot opportunities while hunting now because obsessed with 1000 yard prone bi pod shooting. Making a standing 100 to 200 yards shot in under 5 seconds not to easy to do or snap shooting consistently 30 to say 80 yards on a moving target ability are so lousy today that all hunters have to tote a tripod with vise to support the rifle!! Nothing like having commercialism to kill the ability to learn effective field shooting procedure by employing one more gimmick!! Your statement just doesn't hold water under scrutiny. I've hunted with lots of old guys and most of them couldn't hit the broadside of a barn if they were inside the barn from field positions or offhand- especially offhand. I applaud anyone who takes measures to make more accurate shots close or far and practices with same. I've been using Harris bipods on my rifles for a great many years now and never leave camp any more without one on my rifle and I encourage everyone in my camp to have one handy at the minimum in their pack. I also used to think the bipod would throw off my offhand shooting but the elk I shot a year and a half ago from 125 yards didn't seem to mind and my aim was just as steady as it ever was IMO.... Sometimes I think it has become fashionable to rag on millenials for every little slight when actually they shoot as much as old guys do often. Every time I'm out at a range in the woods it is the millenials who are out shooting. Even if it is with AKs and ARs they are out there getting in the practice and burning up ammo. Lots of dads with their kids out shooting too these days. Instead of ragging on these folks how about encouraging them whenever you can...
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