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Mike is lazy. Too much wealth. Too much fame and adulation. Why run when you have all that for doing nothing? She's not Hillary who feels she's owed the Presidency and will do ANYTHING to obtain it.

Mike has baggage. She struggles to be appealing. She finds it hard to speak without her racism coming through.

I gave no issue with a woman being President, but as long as they keep choosing women like Hillary, Kamala and Moochelle, I don't see it happening.

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Originally Posted by TrueGrit
It doesn't matter who runs. Between mail in ballots and the same people counting the votes, the outcome looks bleak.
Originally Posted by efw
You seem to be operating with the assumptions that actual voter numbers matter.
Two realists post the truth.


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Originally Posted by hatari
What vote does she bring to the Party that automatically doesn't already vote Democrat? None.

Exactly this. I can't think of anyone who isn't a dyed in the wool Dem that's thinking "You know, we just don't have the RIGHT democrats running things - lets try a different one" - to a person I've heard "the dems are messed up" - they blame the ideology right now, not the person.


Yeah but you’re forgetting that the Obama admin was largely seen as the “good old days” by moderates turned off by Trump’s rhetoric and now Biden’s train wreck.

Those nostalgic feelings will come back when O hits the campaign trail for her, campaigning 100X as he did for Biden.

And of course, all of that white guilt will come flooding back too. Plus anyone who will vote for her just because she is a woman.



Frankly, I think she is probably the most serious threat to the GOP winning in 2024.


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I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle.


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I have yet to see anyone claim Leupold has never had to fix an optic. I know I have sent a few back. 2 MK 6s, a VX-6, and 3 VX-111s.
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They can steal a fresh round of silverware

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Yes, you guys make a good point. Moochelle has never worked and never will. She loves the leisure life.

Anyone remember all her vacations with mom and the girls?

$100 million plus

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/obama-administration-travel-costs-114-million-trump-723883%3Famp%3D1


https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/article123335079.html


"The Democrat Party looks like Titanic survivors. Partying and celebrating one moment, and huddled in lifeboats freezing the next". Hatari 2017

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it's all about the power and the legacy. She will run


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I think it's going to be Polis, Buttgeig or Newsom myself.

I'm trying to think of a Dem female who has the name recognition to run and pretty much drawing a blank. I don't think Whitmer has a chance.

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There should not be any democrats or traitors left by then. If there are, we deserve what ever they put in office.

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Originally Posted by DMc
The only ex-president to remain in DC. Hint hint.
Barry Soetero is the shadow President and Susan Rice is his VP.

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We really need another chigger in office!

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O'groid wants a 4th term. It's his only shot. Dimentia Joe will be taken out before he destroys the party. Forced to step down and call it a terminal illness for sympathy

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