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The Opinion was an Opinion of the Supreme Court and it is binding on all....
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SCOTUS remanded the Ninth circuit ruling and cited the NY ruling they just made as guidance for their decision. SCOTUS GVRed 2 cases back to 9th for new ruling consistant with the NYSRPA case. Those new rulings will only be binding in the 9th. SCOTUS also GVRed 2 cases back to the 3rd Circuit and those rulings will only bind the 3rd. No Circuit court can bind all Circuits but can enjoin a Federal Law or Executive Action that affects the Nation, pending review. The HI judge comes to mind. The laws in contest are all State Laws and only effect single states inside of a particular Circuit.
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You guys must believe constitutional laws matter. I seem to remember our illegitimate president swore to uphold our constitution and protect our country. Leaving our southern border open should get him sent to jail immediately. Gun laws are already being ignored around the country in every liberal [bleep] hole state. To expect anything the SCOTUS does to change this is a pipe dream. Nobody is going to jail so nothing will change. Do you not realize your words are anathema to the very solution you are trying to convince us you desire? Get pissed, get involved at your local and state level. Talk to others in person, as many as you can. Let your frustration be your newfound strength in all of this. You abviously don't need "grow a set," you simply need realize "they" are bigger than you think they are...
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So, I’ll have to sue in WA to get our mag ban lifted? Or will the decision of the 9th cover WA as well? SCOTUS remanded the Ninth circuit ruling and cited the NY ruling they just made as guidance for their decision. No Circuit court can bind all Circuits but can enjoin a Federal Law or Executive Action that affects the Nation, pending review. The HI judge comes to mind. The laws in contest are all State Laws and only effect single states inside of a particular Circuit.
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So, I’ll have to sue in WA to get our mag ban lifted? Or will the decision of the 9th cover WA as well? SCOTUS remanded the Ninth circuit ruling and cited the NY ruling they just made as guidance for their decision. No Circuit court can bind all Circuits but can enjoin a Federal Law or Executive Action that affects the Nation, pending review. The HI judge comes to mind. The laws in contest are all State Laws and only effect single states inside of a particular Circuit. If WA is in the 9th Circuit, and it is, decisions of the 9th are binding there, regardless of which State within the 9th from which the case may have originated .........
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NYS will be back in front of the SCOTUS as they just passed a law that pretty much gave the court the finger. Somehow the left just cannot figure out that law abiding CC people are the good guys and the criminals are the bad guys.
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NYS will be back in front of the SCOTUS as they just passed a law that pretty much gave the court the finger. Somehow the left just cannot figure out that law abiding CC people are the good guys and the criminals are the bad guys. They know that. They don't care. Those are the people they fear the most, because they plan to do things to them (via the power of state) that would make them want to shoot them.
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NYS will be back in front of the SCOTUS as they just passed a law that pretty much gave the court the finger. Somehow the left just cannot figure out that law abiding CC people are the good guys and the criminals are the bad guys. because the criminal base and their famlies are the Democratic party voter base
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So, I’ll have to sue in WA to get our mag ban lifted? Or will the decision of the 9th cover WA as well? Most states would repeal the law on their own but if they try to ignore the ruling then someone will file suit in Fed District court and probably receive a summary judgement. It will all depend on how hard the lefties want to double down on tyranny. If the 9th does what SCOTUS told them to do with the Cali mag ban then all the mag bans in the 9th circuit are circling the drain. If the 9th does what SCOTUS told them to do with the Hawaii open carry ban then all states in the 9th will have open carry in a short time. The 9th is also holding the Cali AWB and ammo ban until SCOTUS ruled on NYSRP. It will be a direct FU to SCOTUS if the 9th finds any of these restrictions constitutional and sending all these 2nd A cases back to the appeals courts is a message from SCOTUS.
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Ignore the ruling of SCOTUS and passing new, more restrictive laws are clearly the plan. POTUS signed federal red flag law after the NY Bruen decision. NY went and called a emergency session of its legislature and did the same. SCOTUS does not have a enforcement arm, and the DOJ is clearly compromised. You are going to have to sue with your own money or someone else's to get these things overturned in your jurisdiction. It will take years, and they will continue to pass laws that are clearly in conflict with the SCOTUS ruling without punishment. POTUS is not going to call out the 82nd Airborne to enforce this decision.
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Ignore the ruling of SCOTUS and passing new, more restrictive laws are clearly the plan. POTUS signed federal red flag law after the NY Bruen decision. NY went and called a emergency session of its legislature and did the same. SCOTUS does not have a enforcement arm, and the DOJ is clearly compromised. You are going to have to sue with your own money or someone else's to get these things overturned in your jurisdiction. It will take years, and they will continue to pass laws that are clearly in conflict with the SCOTUS ruling without punishment. POTUS is not going to call out the 82nd Airborne to enforce this decision. That scenario is one of the main reasons the founding Fathers codified the right to keep and bear arms with the 2nd Amendment. Authorities ignoring court rulings and restricting civil rights under color of law is Tyranny. Don't need the 82nd when there is a Militia right there.
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I grasp the fact the we are a nation today, because the Brits came after our guns, and triggered a revolution. But they were different men in a different time. As long as the power stays on, you can watch your favorite television show, and have Domino's delivered to your door, I don't think you going to see a repeat of the same. I'm not sure if they were lining conservatives against the wall with blindfolds that anyone would interfere. Other than light some candles and making pithy tweets. I am of the age where I am beyond warrantee, so my involvement either way is would be a hindrance or minimal. It's those that are coming after us are going to have it bad, those few who are the bedrock of this nation and make it work. When we lost the schools and colleges, they made two, perhaps three generations of perfect little socialists and commies. This will cost us a hundred years of unrest. As for the "milita" the only ones I am aware about are either black nationalists, or comprised of FBI agents.
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Yes, you can count on the fact that any militia being formed will be led by, and mostly comprised of, FBI operatives.
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Yes, you can count on the fact that any militia being formed will be led by, and mostly comprised of, FBI operatives. Wearing khakis.
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I grasp the fact the we are a nation today, because the Brits came after our guns, and triggered a revolution. But they were different men in a different time. As long as the power stays on, you can watch your favorite television show, and have Domino's delivered to your door, I don't think you going to see a repeat of the same. I'm not sure if they were lining conservatives against the wall with blindfolds that anyone would interfere. Other than light some candles and making pithy tweets. I am of the age where I am beyond warrantee, so my involvement either way is would be a hindrance or minimal. It's those that are coming after us are going to have it bad, those few who are the bedrock of this nation and make it work. When we lost the schools and colleges, they made two, perhaps three generations of perfect little socialists and commies. This will cost us a hundred years of unrest. As for the "milita" the only ones I am aware about are either black nationalists, or comprised of FBI agents. By definition the Militia is the People. Even Colorado law enforcement does not enforce the mag limitations, and that's without those limitations having been ruled unconstitutional. There is going to be lefty shenanigans but we have plenty of money and have learned much about winning the legal battles. Some of you sure are defeatist after the best week evar for Court Rulings and freedoms.
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Yes, you can count on the fact that any militia being formed will be led by, and mostly comprised of, FBI operatives. Wearing khakis.
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By definition the Militia is the People.
Even Colorado law enforcement does not enforce the mag limitations, and that's without those limitations having been ruled unconstitutional. Up until the point where it suits their purpose. Selective enforcement of the law is three steps into the process to tyranny. Equal treatment under the law is one of the cornerstones of our civilization.
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I believe it was in the late sixties or early seventies that the federal government brought all remaining "state militias" into the National Guard system. There are no longer any state militias...unless we can get people to form new ones?
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By definition the Militia is the People.
Even Colorado law enforcement does not enforce the mag limitations, and that's without those limitations having been ruled unconstitutional. Up until the point where it suits their purpose. Selective enforcement of the law is three steps into the process to tyranny. Equal treatment under the law is one of the cornerstones of our civilization. It's not selective enforcement as that means some people get enforced and others do not. It's nullification. That said once the law in question has been ruled unconstitutuional that change the game in a big way. We are in for some interesting times.
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Yes, you can count on the fact that any militia being formed will be led by, and mostly comprised of, FBI operatives. Unless your local chapter is comprised of friends that have known each other for decades. 😉
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