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Are you Methodist Church members on the Fire aware of the change being advocated in our denomination??
The Conference wants to allow same-sex celebrations, ie our ministers permitted to marry LGBTQ persons, and our ministers to be able to be "avowed practicing homosexuals". This proposed change would be AGAINST The Methodist Church's long-standing doctrine on homosexuality and homosexual activity by its leaders.
I am not trying to create dissension or havoc only wanted to know if any on here were aware of this proposed change.
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Doesn't the Methodist Church already have female "pastors"?
Once you go down that road, anything goes.
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Weren’t they one of the first to speak in tongues? They took that to the next level.
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I am MAGA.
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I am MAGA.
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The BIG split coming to the local Methodist churches here. One heading w liberal and other w traditional. Great friends here will be leaving completely over this schism. Lots of abhorrent behavior wrapped in religion. The family leader better know the theology and vision of their home church. If it quivers, move along. Children are the greatest asset in any congregation. Brethren in Church will not save you from God’s wrath but more importantly from baptized believers that will be in involved in the “laying on of hands” if you understand my meaning. I for one have had enough.
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PRESIDENT TRUMP 2024/2028 !!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Bristoe The people wringing their hands over Trump's rhetoric don't know what time it is in America.
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I think the Methodist church has been moving that direction for some time now.
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This is not new. My local church disavowed this practice. This is the reason I left the church; I will not financially support the national organization. If somebody chooses to be a member and live in sin, that is between them and God. However, I will not be a part of accepting or celebrating the sinful practice as the churches have chose to embrace.
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If they go that direction will it not be time to say the the UMC is no longer a part of the small c Catholic Church?
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Going that direction for any religion is accepting what to God is an abomination. Look it up.
“When Tyranny becomes Law, Rebellion becomes Duty”
Colossians 3:17 (New King James Version) "And whatever you do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through Him."
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Go ask the Episcopal church how all the liberal BS is working out.
Went woke, now they are shedding members bigly.
Imagine a corporate oligarchy so effective, so advanced and fine tuned that its citizens still call it a democracy.
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Jesus spoke about churches like this:
Mat 7:21“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ 23And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’
“In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” ― George Orwell
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You either follow the teachings or not. You cannot worship two masters.
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I think the churches got soft because the popular narrative for many years was that gays and lesb's were "Born that way" and that any day this was going to be proven by science in DNA. However, Science has analyzed the whole genome and despite looking very hard, it has been determined that there is no genetic cause of homosexuality, and that it was just a choice of perversion all along. Now there isn't enough strong men and women to stand up against it.
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Throughout long history, certain church organizations (of varying types) have openly decided to corrupt themselves by violating or altering the doctrines on which they were formed - usually with disastrous results. Once in a while an alleged "Christian" organization will head this direction - and then it becomes much more noticeable to the English speaking folks who understand the doctrine being corrupted.
If a body is based on firm belief in the Supreme Being and adherence to principles and practices following from that core, what will become of that body and its members if they choose to bow to aspects or current popular culture and bend their doctrine and practices to a shape unrecognizable in comparison to those formative tenets? What then is it, what purpose does it serve, what future does it seek?
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most churches just care about money.
God bless Texas----------------------- Old 300 I will remain what i am until the day I die- A HUNTER......Sitting Bull Its not how you pick the booger.. but where you put it !! Roger V Hunter
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Doesn't the Methodist Church already have female "pastors"?
Once you go down that road, anything goes. Agree
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Maybe the Methodists should try reading the Bible for a change. As for me, I was done with the Methodists when they came out in favor of gun control in 1978. The Bible does not prohibit gun ownership but it sure as H--- prohibits LBGTQ.
Don't blame me. I voted for Trump.
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