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Originally Posted by tylerw02
Remember, flannel shirt/hat guy gave an interview within about a week where he openly stated he never entered the room.

I think we need to step away from who entered when here.

There were shots fired at 12:21 and nobody entered the room until 12:50. The four shots fired at 12:21 were heard by everyone that eventually went in.

This is abysmal.


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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
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Originally Posted by jaguartx
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3 days before Trumps speech at NRA Houdton.

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Would you please fugk off for a while?


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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
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The cop standing on the right (south?) side of the hallway, looking at his phone was the husband of one of the teachers murdered in that room. The story goes that he was detained and is gun taken away trying to get to his wife. Seems to me like he let her die in there. Lack of training is one thing, but the cowardice on display here astounding. I feel like these children would have been better served by a handful of average Joe’s off the street.

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Back in the day when I did active shooter training, (after the Colorado thing), the training was in its infancy. No shields, just a surplus M16 and a side arm, mine was Gen 2 Glock 23. But we had balls.

Chances were it wouldn’t have happened while we were suited up. We might of had time to shut the lawnmower of and grab the duty belt.

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Originally Posted by Jeffrey
The cop standing on the right (south?) side of the hallway, looking at his phone was the husband of one of the teachers murdered in that room. The story goes that he was detained and is gun taken away trying to get to his wife. Seems to me like he let her die in there. Lack of training is one thing, but the cowardice on display here astounding. I feel like these children would have been better served by a handful of average Joe’s off the street.


It was a total, dysfunctional clusterfugg of the highest order with no leadership, bravery, or personal initiative shown by the majority of cops on the scene.

There were great displays of cowardice, self preservation, and ignoring shots from the classroom, screams, and training though.

Clean House. Be more picky next time, with who you trust as a public servant... In any capacity.


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Where was the No 14 placed this time?

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How many minutes did it take the mom to get in?

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Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by Jeffrey
The cop standing on the right (south?) side of the hallway, looking at his phone was the husband of one of the teachers murdered in that room. The story goes that he was detained and is gun taken away trying to get to his wife. Seems to me like he let her die in there. Lack of training is one thing, but the cowardice on display here astounding. I feel like these children would have been better served by a handful of average Joe’s off the street.


It was a total, dysfunctional clusterfugg of the highest order with no leadership, bravery, or personal initiative shown by the majority of cops on the scene.

There were great displays of cowardice, self preservation, and ignoring shots from the classroom, screams, and training though.

Clean House. Be more picky next time, with who you trust as a public servant... In any capacity.

Evidently Uvalde cops are more concerned with writing traffic tickets than helping kids.

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CLUE What did the shooters last tweet say? Why was it taken down?

Read it for yourself. THE BIGGEST OPP

Kids be scared


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It’s up to the Attorney General to file charges if needed and it appears to be the case. Federal law enforcement need to butt out. The problem is schools get federal funding so they think they own education. We need a total revamp of federal funding of public everything.

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Originally Posted by rainshot
It’s up to the Attorney General to file charges if needed and it appears to be the case. Federal law enforcement need to butt out. The problem is schools get federal funding so they think they own education. We need a total revamp of federal funding of public everything.


I agree.

I think the State needs to take the lead, because you sure can't count on the DA, or any local level of accountability.


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I cannot believe that many people stood around and waited that long and I'm not excluding any groups.

All I heard was Border Patrol, Border Patrol, Border Patrol for days on end.

Well, the fugking Border Patrol took way too fugking long to resolve that situation. And WTF was with them staging triage at the hallways intersection?

Somebody please explain just what in the fugk these people being taught? And by who?


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Next question to be answered is the apparent disconnect between the information communicated in the 911 calls and the officers actually on the scene.

Who was receiving those 911 calls? An operator within the Uvalde Police Department? Gross incompetence could explain why that info was not apparent to the Border Patrol guys on the scene for 20+ minutes prior to entry.


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Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
Next question to be answered is the apparent disconnect between the information communicated in the 911 calls and the officers actually on the scene.

Who was receiving those 911 calls? An operator within the Uvalde Police Department? Gross incompetence could explain why that info was not apparent to the Border Patrol guys on the scene for 20+ minutes prior to entry.

Pre -Planned incompetence. Preplanned open door. Preplanned SRO gone..........

The Police Chief had to have both hands for his two guns and couldn't carry his phone even through he was command and control. And people are supposed to believe this schiett?

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Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
Next question to be answered is the apparent disconnect between the information communicated in the 911 calls and the officers actually on the scene.

Who was receiving those 911 calls? An operator within the Uvalde Police Department? Gross incompetence could explain why that info was not apparent to the Border Patrol guys on the scene for 20+ minutes prior to entry.

The Border Patrol has access to local comms and would be operating or scanning those channels. In a schit hole like Uvalde they would do it routinely, and assuredly when working on a situation together.

I think the claim of ignorance of the entire situation is suspect. At best.


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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
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Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
Next question to be answered is the apparent disconnect between the information communicated in the 911 calls and the officers actually on the scene.

Who was receiving those 911 calls? An operator within the Uvalde Police Department? Gross incompetence could explain why that info was not apparent to the Border Patrol guys on the scene for 20+ minutes prior to entry.

The Border Patrol has access to local comms and would be operating or scanning those channels. In a schit hole like Uvalde they would do it routinely, and assuredly when working on a situation together.

I think the claim of ignorance of the entire situation is suspect. At best.

Bingo


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Originally Posted by jaguartx
Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
Next question to be answered is the apparent disconnect between the information communicated in the 911 calls and the officers actually on the scene.

Who was receiving those 911 calls? An operator within the Uvalde Police Department? Gross incompetence could explain why that info was not apparent to the Border Patrol guys on the scene for 20+ minutes prior to entry.

Pre -Planned incompetence. Preplanned open door. Preplanned SRO gone..........

The Police Chief had to have both hands for his two guns and couldn't carry his phone even through he was command and control. And people are supposed to believe this schiett?

You underestimate the level of incompetence because you've never had to deal with it.


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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
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Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Originally Posted by jaguartx
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
Next question to be answered is the apparent disconnect between the information communicated in the 911 calls and the officers actually on the scene.

Who was receiving those 911 calls? An operator within the Uvalde Police Department? Gross incompetence could explain why that info was not apparent to the Border Patrol guys on the scene for 20+ minutes prior to entry.

The Border Patrol has access to local comms and would be operating or scanning those channels. In a schit hole like Uvalde they would do it routinely, and assuredly when working on a situation together.

I think the claim of ignorance of the entire situation is suspect. At best.

Bingo

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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
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Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by jaguartx
Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
Next question to be answered is the apparent disconnect between the information communicated in the 911 calls and the officers actually on the scene.

Who was receiving those 911 calls? An operator within the Uvalde Police Department? Gross incompetence could explain why that info was not apparent to the Border Patrol guys on the scene for 20+ minutes prior to entry.

Pre -Planned incompetence. Preplanned open door. Preplanned SRO gone..........

The Police Chief had to have both hands for his two guns and couldn't carry his phone even through he was command and control. And people are supposed to believe this schiett?

You underestimate the level of incompetence because you've never had to deal with it.

Youre cluess on that point. There is no incompetence when cops stand in the hall on the phone with a bleeding out wife or kidd getting shot.

Im just wondering how surprised the perp was when the BP came in and instead of arresting him started shooting him.

The Leos had gone through training for this a few months before and the Chieff got top scoresvas hevdid two years before.

Real leos dont discount evidence given them. You do.

The perp tweeted "TheBiggestOpp"

Get a real LEO to explain what he was meaning.


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Jag turning another thread into his BS diatribe. It gets old.

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