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LOL.

I dropped 3 names of friends of mine and now you are dropping those same names? You seem to have a double standard.

You are going to train at least 2 of the 3?

Please expound as you now have my attention.

Legs, this thread has them.

lol

I doubt anyone associated with the Uvalde response wants their name pimped out on the www.

If you can comprehend what you read I believe he said he is booking dates to take their training, not to train them.

Are these dudes actually your friends or do they just come along to get a free hunt from someone or maybe even get paid to come hunt? Id say the latter from the lack of "personal" pics you share of these guys, meaning not on some group "hunt" more like at their house for a party, etc etc. I mean really why the hell would these Alpha Tier One elite warfighters want to voluntarily hang out with some washed up old AR builder other than that you are the one giving them the free hunt, paying them to be there, or you just happened to be on the same group hunt as them?

Regardless, your using such an event to name drop and self promote is disgusting and shows how low you have gone. If you stayed in your lane and kept the sheit to long range hunting, which admittedly you seem to actually be good at, instead of trying to seem legit and "cool" acting like these real badazz warfighters are actually your peers, Im sure people wouldnt view you as such a douche!!!

A fact that seems to be lost on the OP.

Yet you always seem drawn like a moth to a flame.

I was disappointed to not see Kyle Lamb's name again.. So I made this post.

How many did he “train” that waited in the hall???

FWIW, (IMHO) you can’t TEACH what it takes to breach a door that has an active shooter behind it…

Check out Mike Glovers ( youtube Tactical Fieldcraft video 07/16/2022. It covers who did what and the lack of on scene intel transfer. The three Border tac dudes who entered the class room were not told there were students in with the shooter. They only found out when they entered the classroom. The shooter was in a coat closet and came out to engage the Border Tac, guys. Still paints a terrible mess of an incident.

Yep said the same thing in other posts.....until you are actually in a real life gunfight, you cant be sure how you will react, trained or not!

That video has been post in this thread.

As you say Mike was told by a Border Patrol superviser that the guys who made the entry did not know there were any kids, dead or alive, in the classroom.

Hard to imagine what went through their heads as they entered the class room.

I was trying to remember an old quote and I finally found it but I think I'm trying to remember. Pretty much sums up exactly what Mark is saying.

LOL, I'm surprised you didn't preface that 10 year old post with "I don't track much here but....... "

Just proves you can have good load data for the .264 and still be the kind of person who would stoop to the depths of using the Uvalde tragedy to try to name drop and promote yourself.

And the funny part is, your "inside information" was all bullshìt.

Please explain to me how JohnBurns is promoting himself and trying to sell his product by posting that one of his friends trained the guy who smoked the shooter?

DOESNT PHUGGING MATTER.....the Nationwide police SOP involving school shooters is that first arriving officers make an immediate attempt to neutralize the shooter PERIOD. Not wait for Tac teams etc!! Following that policy if others have arrived before you and are NOT taking direct action against the shooter because they vapor locked etc...than it is your duty to initiate such action. The whole bullshiet with this situation is that it was continued long enough to even have assembled tactical teams be involved!!!

Kinda like the F-35 thread where he repeatedly refused to divulge the basis for his "expertise," huh?

LOL

needs repeating. but the op has zero understanding of the subject matter. Just trying to shill something as usual

If I have to explain that to you, you wouldn't understand the explanation.

Did you two fùck yet?

Today, I mean.

Well I do have some good data, we can all agree on that.

Just so everyone knows, why don't you be specific and post exactly where I was wrong?

BorTac made the entry and killed the shooter. I was right.

Scott Steiert trained the guy who killed the shooter. I was right.

Scott Steiert is a very good friend of mine. I was right.

BorTac uses Kyle's VTAC sling. I was right.

Kyle lamb is very good friend of mine. I was right

I was most likely mistaken that the guy who got shot and in the picture was the guy who took down the shooter.

The video cleaning that up was done by a guy who got the exact same text I got and believed the same thing at that time.

Post where I promote anything other than being proud of my kewl friends.

I know you heard it in your head but try and find it written in a post of mine.

What's sort of ironic it this thread is exactly why most guys in the know don't come to sites and post on the net.

I like sharing info, like load data, and stuff I find interesting but it comes at a price. Gotta deal with a few haters in a pack whose lot in life depresses them.

I am just skilled at dealing with a pack and it's some what legendary in the industry.

Maybe not shilling an actual product this time but at very least acting like he is a "peer" on the same level as the real warfighters he so often name drops as his "friends" to try to add "coolness" and validity to him and his "brand"