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Why S&B....why? #17443938 07/21/22
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OP JCMCUBIC Campfire Outfitter J Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 13,760	Just saw this: https://www.schmidtundbender.de/en/products/hunting/3-18x42.html ~24 oz, 30mm, 42mm objective. Could have been really good if they made if FFP with a basic mildot/mildot Gen II reticle....or some measured version of a hunting reticle. SFP and a non-measured reticle for windage hurts so bad.....

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Re: Why S&B....why? JCMCUBIC #17443952 07/21/22
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Re: Why S&B....why? JCMCUBIC #17444193 07/21/22
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Re: Why S&B....why? JCMCUBIC #17444217 07/21/22
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SDHNTR Campfire Regular S Joined: Jan 2019 Posts: 2,161	Boy I hope they expand on this line! Give us a few more options on reticle and SFP vs FFP. The physicals on this baby are very attractive! What’s the price tag?

Re: Why S&B....why? JCMCUBIC #17444257 07/21/22
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Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,501 Paradise,Alaska	In reality,Schit & Blunder don't get very much right. Including erector travel,parallax and reticles. Not that Jim Cumrag could save for her "life",to arrange a down payment upon same. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!............... Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

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Re: Why S&B....why? Big Stick #17444278 07/21/22
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Jim_Conrad Campfire Kahuna J Joined: May 2016 Posts: 60,380 Montana	Originally Posted by Big Stick In reality,Schit & Blunder don't get very much right. Including erector travel,parallax and reticles. Not that Jim Cumrag could save for her "life",to arrange a down payment upon same. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!............... How was father's day this year? I am MAGA.

Re: Why S&B....why? JCMCUBIC #17444298 07/21/22
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,501 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna
Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,501 Paradise,Alaska	Cumrag, Are you needing an uplift,not knowing in which ghetto to find your's...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!? Bless your poor poor(literally) heart. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!.............. Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: Why S&B....why? JCMCUBIC #17444308 07/21/22
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Re: Why S&B....why? JCMCUBIC #17444349 07/21/22
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Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,501 Paradise,Alaska	Cumrag, I'm unaware of how you gals "celebrate" in the ghetto,but we tend to hug it out(daily),with a GrandBaby stealing The Show...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!? Bless your poor poor(literally) heart. Perhaps start a GoFundMe for your S&B desires?!? Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!.............. Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: Why S&B....why? JCMCUBIC #17444429 07/21/22
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Jim_Conrad Campfire Kahuna J Joined: May 2016 Posts: 60,380 Montana	Isn't that sweet. So nothing again this year? Good thing you have Facebook and an active imagination. Last edited by Jim_Conrad; 07/21/22. I am MAGA.

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Re: Why S&B....why? JCMCUBIC #17444462 07/21/22
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BillyE Campfire Member B Joined: Aug 2019 Posts: 358	Originally Posted by JCMCUBIC Just saw this: https://www.schmidtundbender.de/en/products/hunting/3-18x42.html ~24 oz, 30mm, 42mm objective. Could have been really good if they made if FFP with a basic mildot/mildot Gen II reticle....or some measured version of a hunting reticle. SFP and a non-measured reticle for windage hurts so bad..... It falls outside of the family grouping they use for everything else (Klassik, Exos, Summit, Polar, PMII, etc.), so maybe the plan is to make a new line and they'll expand the offerings?

Re: Why S&B....why? JCMCUBIC #17444488 07/21/22
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Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,501 Paradise,Alaska	Cumrag, Pardon my being unfamiliar with how your Jungle Pageantry "works" in The Ghetto,to "satiate" your angst...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!? Feel free to concoct those things you soooooooo desperately NEED and "justify" your Do Nothing Brokedicktitude. Hint. Bless your poor poor(literally) heart. Perhaps start a GoFundMe for your S&B desires?!? Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!.............. Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: Why S&B....why? JCMCUBIC #17444510 07/21/22
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Starbuck Campfire Regular S Joined: Feb 2018 Posts: 1,221 Northwoods	Originally Posted by JCMCUBIC Just saw this: https://www.schmidtundbender.de/en/products/hunting/3-18x42.html ~24 oz, 30mm, 42mm objective. Could have been really good if they made if FFP with a basic mildot/mildot Gen II reticle....or some measured version of a hunting reticle. SFP and a non-measured reticle for windage hurts so bad..... +1 on your assessment. The 3-12 Klassik has a great FFP reticle for big game hunting. Little limited on erector travel, but, depending on your distance needs and the specifics of the bullet you're sending, it can be enough. I was recently admonished on another thread on this forum for suggesting to a retailer that a hunter centric, lower X scope should be offered in an FFP variant. Was a reminder that for many, FFP's are best suited to a realm that doesn't include big game hunting.

Re: Why S&B....why? Starbuck #17444529 07/21/22
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OP JCMCUBIC Campfire Outfitter J Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 13,760	Originally Posted by Starbuck Originally Posted by JCMCUBIC Just saw this: https://www.schmidtundbender.de/en/products/hunting/3-18x42.html ~24 oz, 30mm, 42mm objective. Could have been really good if they made if FFP with a basic mildot/mildot Gen II reticle....or some measured version of a hunting reticle. SFP and a non-measured reticle for windage hurts so bad..... +1 on your assessment. The 3-12 Klassik has a great FFP reticle for big game hunting. Little limited on erector travel, but, depending on your distance needs and the specifics of the bullet you're sending, it can be enough. I was recently admonished on another thread on this forum for implying that a hunter centric, lower X scope should be offered in an FFP variant. Was a reminder that, for many, FFP's are best suited to a realm that doesn't include big game hunting Yeah, I use a BDC on a 6x Klassic and it's workable. 6x PMII is a big improvement. I've been using a 3-12 Klassik P3 a fair bit the last several months. Need to send it in for the BDC. 3.2 mils is not much...but running the numbers, even if using a fairly low BC bullet at medium speed with a 100 yard zero it will get to 500. 200 yard zero and better BC improves that. I'd certainly like more travel, but for hunting I can live with it.

Re: Why S&B....why? JCMCUBIC #17444597 07/21/22
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Jim_Conrad Campfire Kahuna J Joined: May 2016 Posts: 60,380 Montana	Sorry guys. I didn't know my comment would flush Captain Insecurity like it did. I am MAGA.

Re: Why S&B....why? JCMCUBIC #17444615 07/21/22
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,501 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna
Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,501 Paradise,Alaska	Cumrag, You are doing "GREAT!"...you "lucky" Kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!? Bless your poor poor(literally) heart. Perhaps start a GoFundMe for your S&B desires?!? Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!.............. Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: Why S&B....why? JCMCUBIC #17444630 07/21/22
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Jim_Conrad Campfire Kahuna J Joined: May 2016 Posts: 60,380 Montana	Like I said...sorry guys. I am MAGA.

Re: Why S&B....why? JCMCUBIC #17444643 07/21/22
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,501 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna
Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,501 Paradise,Alaska	Cumrag, At least you "get" to search The Ghetto and "find" your roots...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!? Bless your poor poor(literally) heart. Perhaps start a GoFundMe for your S&B desires?!? Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!.............. Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: Why S&B....why? JCMCUBIC #17444672 07/21/22
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Re: Why S&B....why? JCMCUBIC #17444686 07/21/22
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,501 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna
Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,501 Paradise,Alaska	Cumrag has ZERO "Euro" roots,as she's from THE Dark Continent and dying to prove same. Hint. Thus her Ghetto fixations. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!.............. Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

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