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Mackay Sagebrush speaks with wisdom!

L.W.

Yes to all.
He is 27. I am 69.
Borrowed money from all kinds of relatives. Never paid anyone back.
Stolen all manners of stuff. Including some guns from his stepfather.

The notification is important.

You can have the sheriff office deliver, that will cost you a small sum.

See if you can add a letter letting him know where he can pick up his person items. I would suggest they be delivered to his parents.

Since he is or has been living with you, I suggest that you have all his personal items boxed, that way he can pick them up when he is out of jail. Make a detail list and have it on each box. Some states require an eviction notice, and that makes it difficult to remove him quickly. All he would have to say is that he does odd jobs around your place for room and board and that would make eviction more difficult.

Have this all accomplished before he is released from jail.

If he has a key to your home, I suggest that you change the locks or have them rekeyed.

To clarify, I am not looking for any actual legal advice to act on, I am simply gathering info. The advice from such a large group as this I consider valuable.
Whether or not I take the advice is another matter.

Knuckle sandwich?

First thing I'd do is visit him in the jail. Tell him that it's time he went out in the world and worked his problems out. Not knowing the situation or any of his other resources I can't opine any further than that. Probably should help get him into some housing of his own and tell him that's it. He is going to have to grow up. He's going to have to have a job and housing in order to make it. other than that, he's just another homeless nitwit running around looking for trouble. Sorry for your troubles. So if he is her grandson what about his actual parents?

Depending on your state and local laws a formal notice of eviction might be worth a try first.


How to Kick Someone Out of Your House: Evicting a Family Member With No Lease

No matter what direction you take, the family will think you are the one that is being unreasonable.

If the grand son has stolen before from family and friends, he will do so again. He knows that you will not file a complaint with the police. The grand son probably has your home cased and know where the good jewelry is and if you have any money stashed in the home. Anything that he can turn into money in a quick process. Again, he knows that you will not report the lost items to the police. And you will not be able to report the loss to your insurance company.

If he has not been physical before I may start at any time, when you decide to not give (you call it loan) him some money to go out and about. Any time you loan a family member some money, you really would consider it a gift. If it was a loan you would have a signed document detailing the loan amount and payment features. The asking of money starts with a small amount and increases over time, they have learned that you are an easy mark. I learned to not cary any cash and only credit cards. That stopped the asking.

So when the grand son returns to your home, and he will what will be the deciding factor to have him removed? You have to ask your self that question. You or your wife in the ER for treatment, the jewelry box cleaned out, what is your point that you will say enough is enough.

I watched family heirlooms and all the jewelry taken, my mother in the ER for treatment, a broken hip and still she would not let me report it and she would not report it.

So what is your tipping point. Sounds like you do not have one.

You don't need signs, that's silly. Like someone said tell him he is not welcome on your property and you will call LE if he shows up.

Let him now he is not welcomed and plan a two week get away when he is released.
Make sure the house is locked when you are gone.

Solid

'...My wifes Grandson is a dirtbag...'

Is she WITH you on this????

Your county sheriff’s office is the best place to start. In most areas, they are the agency that enforces this stuff and they know the best course of action to take under local circumstances vs what state law spells out. Also, the county sheriff is answerable to the voters and is more likely to want to be a level of protection between reliable voters in their 60’s and 40 some year old scumbags. Call your local Sheriff’s office and proceed from there.

Pack up his belongings, rent a storage locker for one month, put his stuff there and give him the combination. Be sure you explain to the storage manager what you are doing, and that the rental is for one month only.

In our state, there are two levels of restraining orders. The first level is civil. That is what people ordinarily get. A two week order is almost automatically granted. It can then be extended or made permanent. Violation is a misdemeanor. The next level is a criminal order. That can be granted after the civil order is violated. Violation of that is a felony. I don't know how things are in your state, but maybe that will give you some ideas.

Also in our state, violation of an order issued for the protection of family constitutes domestic violence. That qualifies for the criminal level order.

My suggestion is you contact your city/county attorney and ask for a two week order, starting at his release. Your local LEO will serve him the order. Write a letter, certified mail, return receipt requested. Explain that you love him and want to see him succeed in life, but the choices he has made make it impossible for you to allow him to continue living with you. Explain where he can pick up his stuff, and explicitly state that he is now trespassed from your property. Make sure the letter gets there before the order is served.

Most jurisdictions try very hard to not send someone to jail. It's an expensive solution that does not work very well.

Unfortunately, your wife’s grandson may have tenancy rights, as was mentioned by at least one poster above, when they said an eviction may be required. So, don’t just pack up their belongings and put it in a storage unit with just a month paid for. Do as McS says, and talk to local LE about your options, but be prepared to have to go through the eviction process. Assuming that the GS manages to play nice. If he doesn’t, well then all bets are off.

This.

Chances are pretty good that if he's currently getting free room and board from the local government, he's got enough of a history with the legal system that there won't me much official reluctance to trespass him from your home.

What was the FTA for??? How long is he gonna be locked up for??? Check with the local LE, maybe even the DAs office. As has been pointed out, laws vary and even if he had tenancy rights, he may be out of luck if he’s been gone for a while… good luck.

If that doesn’t work, take him fishing…

...if all this bs fails, just call Rip..😉

Sounds like the little schitbyrd has been enabled his whole life by relatives.
Why ain't he staying with his mommy or daddy???
Enablers are a big part of the problem with D bags like this.
The enabling just keeps going on and on like the Energizer bunny.



Just take out a restraining order via your local legal means on his azz.
Then deal with the bullschit if it happens.

You said wifes grandson.
So he is not your bio grandson I'm taking from that???

Maybe his grammy oughta look inside herself a little and take some action and responsibility also for schit she might have cultivated over the years with her grandson...

Or is she letting you assume the bad guy role in all of this.


Not saying any of this to be mean spirited.

Just base it all from your post and speculating their is alot more that has created this situation than what has been said with him expecting to come live with his grandmother again.