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When the Lies Come Home:BY Douglas Macgregor


After lying for months, the media are preparing the public for Ukraine’s military collapse.

Diogenes, one of the ancient world’s illustrious philosophers, believed that lies were the currency of politics, and those lies were the ones he sought to expose and debase. To make his point, Diogenes occasionally carried a lit lantern through the streets of Athens in the daylight. If asked why, Diogenes would say he was searching for an honest man.

Finding an honest man today in Washington, D.C., is equally challenging. Diogenes would need a Xenon Searchlight in each hand.

Still, there are brief moments of clarity inside the Washington establishment. Having lied prolifically for months to the American public about the origins and conduct of the war in Ukraine, the media are now preparing the American, British, and other Western publics for Ukraine’s military collapse. It is long overdue.

The Western media did everything in its power to give the Ukrainian defense the appearance of far greater strength than it really possessed. Careful observers noted that the same video clips of Russian tanks under attack were shown repeatedly. Local counterattacks were reported as though they were operational maneuvers.

Russian errors were exaggerated out of all proportion to their significance. Russian losses and the true extent of Ukraine’s own losses were distorted, fabricated, or simply ignored. But conditions on the battlefield changed little over time. Once Ukrainian forces immobilized themselves in static defensive positions inside urban areas and the central Donbas, the Ukrainian position was hopeless. But this development was portrayed as failure by the Russians to gain “their objectives.”

Ground-combat forces that immobilize soldiers in prepared defenses will be identified, targeted, and destroyed from a distance. When persistent overhead intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance assets, whether manned or unmanned, are linked to precision guided-strike weapons or modern artillery systems informed by accurate targeting data, “holding ground” is fatal to any ground force. This is all the more true in Ukraine, because it was apparent from the first action that Moscow focused on the destruction of Ukrainian forces, not on the occupation of cities or the capture of Ukrainian territory west of the Dnieper River.

The result has been the piecemeal annihilation of Ukrainian forces. Only the episodic infusion of U.S. and allied weapons kept Kiev’s battered legions in the field; legions that are now dying in great numbers thanks to Washington’s proxy war.

Kiev’s war with Moscow is lost. Ukrainian forces are being bled white. Trained replacements do not exist in sufficient numbers to influence the battle, and the situation grows more desperate by the hour. No amount of U.S. and allied military aid or assistance short of direct military intervention by U.S. and NATO ground forces can change this harsh reality.

The problem today is not ceding territory and population to Moscow in Eastern Ukraine that Moscow already controls. The future of the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions along with the Donbas is decided. Moscow is also likely to secure Kharkov and Odessa, two cities that are historically Russian and Russian-speaking, as well as the territory that adjoins them. These operations will extend the conflict through the summer. The problem now is how to stop the fighting.

Whether the fighting stops in the early fall will depend on two key factors. The first involves the leadership in Kiev. Will the Zelensky government consent to the Biden program for perpetual conflict with Russia?

If the Biden administration has its way, Kiev will continue to operate as a base for the buildup of new forces poised to threaten Moscow. In practice, this means Kiev must commit national suicide by exposing the Ukrainian heartland west of the Dnieper River to massive, devastating strikes by Russia’s long-range missile and rocket forces.

Of course, these developments are not inevitable. Berlin, Paris, Rome, Budapest, Bucharest, Sofia, Vilnius, Riga, Tallin, and, yes, even Warsaw, do not have to blindly follow Washington’s lead. Europeans, like most Americans, are already peering into the abyss of an all-encompassing economic downturn that Biden’s policies are creating at home. Unlike Americans who must cope with the consequences of Biden’s ill-conceived policies, European governments can opt out of Biden’s perpetual-war plan for Ukraine.

The second factor involves Washington itself. Having poured more than $60 billion or a little more than $18 billion a month in direct or indirect transfers into a Ukrainian state that is now crumbling, the important question is, what happens to millions of Ukrainians in the rest of the country that did not flee? And where will the funds come from to rebuild Ukraine’s shattered society in a developing global economic emergency?

When inflation costs the average American household an extra $460 per month to buy the same goods and services this year as they did last year, it is quite possible that Ukraine could sink quietly beneath the waves like the Titanic without evoking much concern in the American electorate. Experienced politicians know that the American span of attention to matters beyond America’s borders is so short that an admission of defeat in Ukraine would probably have little or no immediate consequences.

However, the effects of repeated strategic failures in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, and Syria are cumulative. In the 1980s, General Motors wanted to dictate the kind of automobiles Americans would buy, but American consumers had different ideas. That’s why G.M., which dominated the U.S. market for 77 years, lost its top spot to Toyota. Washington cannot dictate all outcomes, nor can Washington escape accountability for its profligate spending and having ruined American prosperity.

In November, Americans will go to the polls. The election itself will do more than test the integrity of the American electoral process. The election is also likely to ensure that Biden is remembered for his intransigence; his refusal to change course, like Herbert Hoover in 1932. Democrats will recall that their predecessors in the Democratic Party effectively ran against Hoover for more than a half century. Republicans may end up running against Joe Biden for the next 50 years.


https://www.theamericanconservative.com/when-the-lies-come-home/


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That’s going to trigger some uketards.


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Honestly, I just don't care about it, one way or another.


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Originally Posted by Fireball2
Honestly, I just don't care about it, one way or another.
You should .

Biden and his Bolshevik handlers have sent over 60 billion of our tax payer's dollars as well as billions in weapons to Zelensky.

Zelensky has sold sold weapons to our enemies and has off-shored our tax dollars into his accounts.


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So, when Ukraine is swallowed up by the new Soviet Union, which country is next? And why?

More Nazis???

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It is a well written piece.

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Should China be allowed to have their way with Taiwan?

This whole Ukraine situation could have been avoided if Obama and Biden had balls…

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Originally Posted by Middlefork_Miner
Should China be allowed to have their way with Taiwan?

This whole Ukraine situation could have been avoided if Obama and Biden had balls…


low iq returds still think 20 years of wars in Iraq, syria, Somalia, Yemen and Afghanistan were worth the trillions spent there and the US lost every war as usual

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Originally Posted by Middlefork_Miner
Should China be allowed to have their way with Taiwan?

This whole Ukraine situation could have been avoided if Obama and Biden had balls…

why don't you fly over to Ukraine super stud and fight the Chechens helping Rusisia? Im sure you would kick their arses like Rambo. dont forget your depends and velcro white sneakers and black socks lol

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Originally Posted by Middlefork_Miner
Should China be allowed to have their way with Taiwan?

This whole Ukraine situation could have been avoided if Obama and Biden had balls…


This whole Ukraine situation could have been avoided if Europe had not become Putin's bitch, if Europe had invested the money necessary to protect themselves, if Ukraine wasn't the money laundering center for the rest of the world, and if Putin feared Biden and Biden was a leader.


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Originally Posted by Middlefork_Miner
Should China be allowed to have their way with Taiwan?

This whole Ukraine situation could have been avoided if Obama and Biden had balls…


You’re due for a booster.


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Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by Middlefork_Miner
Should China be allowed to have their way with Taiwan?

This whole Ukraine situation could have been avoided if Obama and Biden had balls…


You’re due for a booster.

interesting correlation between a ridiculous fear of a cold virus and a love for Neo NAZIS, corrupt governments and war mongering

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Originally Posted by ribka
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by Middlefork_Miner
Should China be allowed to have their way with Taiwan?

This whole Ukraine situation could have been avoided if Obama and Biden had balls…


You’re due for a booster.

interesting correlation between a ridiculous fear of a cold virus and a love for Neo NAZIS, corrupt governments and war mongering
Did you just wiki Old toot and Burnsy?

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Originally Posted by Raferman
Originally Posted by ribka
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by Middlefork_Miner
Should China be allowed to have their way with Taiwan?

This whole Ukraine situation could have been avoided if Obama and Biden had balls…


You’re due for a booster.

interesting correlation between a ridiculous fear of a cold virus and a love for Neo NAZIS, corrupt governments and war mongering
Did you just wiki Old toot and Burnsy?




Be ready for another giant gift to Ukraine before midterms.


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Originally Posted by Raferman
Originally Posted by ribka
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by Middlefork_Miner
Should China be allowed to have their way with Taiwan?

This whole Ukraine situation could have been avoided if Obama and Biden had balls…


You’re due for a booster.

interesting correlation between a ridiculous fear of a cold virus and a love for Neo NAZIS, corrupt governments and war mongering
Did you just wiki Old toot and Burnsy?

Bingo.


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Hey, any of youse guys aint believing Bidet, the MSM, DNC and George Soros is crazy. Hahaha.

Talk about suckers who cant connect dots. UFR.

Hey Ustoned and MFM, they were right about Trump being crazy and bad for us, weren't they? crazy

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I’ve noticed how the MSM has begun their campaign of softening us up for the inevitable capitulation of Ukraine, that’s when the money will really begin to flow. The “rebuilding” of Ukraine will be a boondoggle of corruption under the guise of compassion and brotherly love. NGO’s will flood in, organized crime will be well represented and the children of politicians and CEOs will have lucrative positions upon graduation from Yale or Harvard.

Back in March just shortly after this began I said that if I could I’d be looking to get the licensing and permits for construction and concrete work in Ukraine. If one had the equipment to spare and took care of logistics now then once the rebuilding begins they’d be first in and well positioned for big government contracts!

Forget the lost treasure of Oak Island or Gold Rush levels of return on labor and investment…..building contracts in Ukraine will be the foundation that forges future personal empires.


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Oh boy. If you are upset about being lied to about Kikelensky's campaign stature, you probably don't really want to look into the true reasons Russia invaded.

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Originally Posted by Middlefork_Miner
So, when Ukraine is swallowed up by the new Soviet Union, which country is next? And why?

More Nazis???
There’s three other countries with significant Russian minorities left outside of Russia when the USSR dissolved and a region of Moldova that’s Russian and demanding independence. The Moldovian Russian enclave is on the border of Ukrainian and that area of the Ukraine will be taken and Moldova will be forced to recognize the region as independent. That region and The Odessa area of Ukraine is historically and ethnically Russian and will be taken from the Ukraine. The three Baltic states are part of NATO and are “safe” unless NATO screws up and starts a hot war with Russia. If a shooting war with Russia and NATO breaks out the Baltic states will be crushed.


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Originally Posted by STRSWilson
Originally Posted by Middlefork_Miner
Should China be allowed to have their way with Taiwan?

This whole Ukraine situation could have been avoided if Obama and Biden had balls…


This whole Ukraine situation could have been avoided if Europe had not become Putin's bitch, if Europe had invested the money necessary to protect themselves, if Ukraine wasn't the money laundering center for the rest of the world, and if Putin feared Biden and Biden was a leader.

The only sensible answer thus far…

Is there a reason for the childish name calling?
I have no idea if Ukraine is the money laundering capital of the world… and don’t really care…yes, I’ve read the accusations, but then again, in the past 9 years I’ve read a lot of schitt that turned out to be untrue… to be honest, I don’t understand why that would be a problem so big that Russia would feel the need to start a war…convince me Russia is justified…

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