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So besides this list is there a sunset clause like the 94 bill? Do you have to register to keep current owned guns and magazines on the list? It makes all transfers illegal. In a generation, they would be gone if nobody stands up. If all transfers are banned, how do you get one repaired at the factory or a gunsmith. Aren’t those considered transfers?
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So besides this list is there a sunset clause like the 94 bill? Do you have to register to keep current owned guns and magazines on the list? It makes all transfers illegal. In a generation, they would be gone if nobody stands up. If all transfers are banned, how do you get one repaired at the factory or a gunsmith. Aren’t those considered transfers? No, they aren't a change in ownership.
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Just a quick glance shows a shytload of modern bolt action sporting rifles, rimfire rifles, pump shotguns and even doubles that aren't on the approved list. They even left out the Ithaca 37 pump and Stevens 311 SxS double. Stupid fuucks.
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So besides this list is there a sunset clause like the 94 bill? Do you have to register to keep current owned guns and magazines on the list? It makes all transfers illegal. In a generation, they would be gone if nobody stands up. If all transfers are banned, how do you get one repaired at the factory or a gunsmith. Aren’t those considered transfers? No, they aren't a change in ownership. Are you sure? Does transfer explicitly say ownership change? As in Nebraska law already With some exceptions, individuals cannot purchase, lease, rent, or receive transfer of a handgun in Nebraska without this certificate.The exceptions are: • Federally licensed firearms dealers; • Individuals acquiring antique handguns; • Persons authorized to acquire handguns on behalf of a law enforcement agency; • Temporary transfers when the transferee remains in the line of sight of the transferor or within the premises of an established shooting facility;• Transfers between a person and his or her spouse, sibling, parent, child, aunt, uncle, niece, nephew, or grandparent; • Holders of a valid permit under the Concealed Handgun Permit Act; and • Peace officers. Under this it seems that by sending it to a gunsmith or factory would be considered a temporary transfer, now seeings how .gov loves to change definitions of sex, recession or whatever to fit their sh*t agenda I see where the definition of transfer could be changed. Food for thought.
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So besides this list is there a sunset clause like the 94 bill? Do you have to register to keep current owned guns and magazines on the list? It makes all transfers illegal. In a generation, they would be gone if nobody stands up. If all transfers are banned, how do you get one repaired at the factory or a gunsmith. Aren’t those considered transfers? No, they aren't a change in ownership. Are you sure? Does transfer explicitly say ownership change? As in Nebraska law already With some exceptions, individuals cannot purchase, lease, rent, or receive transfer of a handgun in Nebraska without this certificate.The exceptions are: • Federally licensed firearms dealers; • Individuals acquiring antique handguns; • Persons authorized to acquire handguns on behalf of a law enforcement agency; • Temporary transfers when the transferee remains in the line of sight of the transferor or within the premises of an established shooting facility;• Transfers between a person and his or her spouse, sibling, parent, child, aunt, uncle, niece, nephew, or grandparent; • Holders of a valid permit under the Concealed Handgun Permit Act; and • Peace officers. Under this it seems that by sending it to a gunsmith or factory would be considered a temporary transfer, now seeings how .gov loves to change definitions of sex, recession or whatever to fit their sh*t agenda I see where the definition of transfer could be changed. Food for thought. Not sure the Feds care about your state law. But the temporary transfer you bolded would mean handing the gun to a friend to shoot. Your own quote specifically states an exception to receive a handgun is an FFL which a factory or a gunsmith must hold.
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They cannot pull this off without altering the make-up of the Supreme Court. Yes, they can ..........."The Law is what I say it is". And once done, it's virtually impossible to undo it, as we have also found out with Obama Care. But I fully expect we will vote our way out if this some Nov., & in 2024............................ MM
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But on the surface, at least to this layman's thinking, having to register current, legally owned firearms into a national database would seem highly unconstitutional (according to past wisdom, which doesn't seem to matter anymore) on the face of it.
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I think that it's odd that they put out a list of what's NOT banned. Why don't they put out a list of what IS banned. That's pretty vague.
If they come for my AR's, which I doubt will ever happen, all they'll get is a couple of stripped Anderson lowers. That's all I bought. Yes, where is the list of BANNED weapons? What does it say about existing weapons?
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I think that it's odd that they put out a list of what's NOT banned. Why don't they put out a list of what IS banned. That's pretty vague.
If they come for my AR's, which I doubt will ever happen, all they'll get is a couple of stripped Anderson lowers. That's all I bought. Yes, where is the list of BANNED weapons? What does it say about existing weapons? All they did was develop an additional "banned" list for the next go round
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Not sure the Feds care about your state law. But the temporary transfer you bolded would mean handing the gun to a friend to shoot.
Your own quote specifically states an exception to receive a handgun is an FFL which a factory or a gunsmith must hold. Lol, that law was passed in 93 to comply with the Brady Bill for which Nebraska received a permanent NICS exemption, so yes the feds do care. Yes, it means that without a Handun ( now called firearms) permit I can’t legally hand one of my guns to someone to shoot. As far as the FFL it’s still a temporary transfer but it’s legal under Brady since they are licensed and completed a Background check. Either way, I am not transferring ownership in either case. What I am doing is transferring possession which in one case is illegal and one isn’t. So again show me where Transfer says ownership.
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Not sure the Feds care about your state law. But the temporary transfer you bolded would mean handing the gun to a friend to shoot.
Your own quote specifically states an exception to receive a handgun is an FFL which a factory or a gunsmith must hold. Lol, that law was passed in 93 to comply with the Brady Bill for which Nebraska received a permanent NICS exemption, so yes the feds do care. Yes, it means that without a Handun ( now called firearms) permit I can’t legally hand one of my guns to someone to shoot. As far as the FFL it’s still a temporary transfer but it’s legal under Brady since they are licensed and completed a Background check. Either way, I am not transferring ownership in either case. What I am doing is transferring possession which in one case is illegal and one isn’t. So again show me where Transfer says ownership. The Brady bill doesn't in any way require you to have a permit to hand it to somebody else to shoot. So if you send a firearm back to the manufacturer to be worked on or to a gunsmith, the gunsmith requires you to fill out a background check on the gunsmith??????????????? I don't think so scooter. And you're asserting one is required for him to give you your own gun back? All to comply with NICS? I'm not so sure about that. No other state requires that, including my own. You're misinterpreting I'd imagine.
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They're saying it has no chance in the Senate. Hope that's true. Senate is 50/50 in reality.....so guess who has the deciding vote? HEEL'S UP HARRIS!!!!
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They're saying it has no chance in the Senate. Hope that's true. Senate is 50/50 in reality.....so guess who has the deciding vote? HEEL'S UP HARRIS!!!! No, they would need 60 votes to pass this.
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All state laws are different but let’s take your contentions 1 by 1
The Brady bill doesn't in any way require you to have a permit to hand it to somebody else to shoot. (Depends on definition )
The Brady Bill sought to institute a federal system to conduct background checks for any individual seeking to acquire a gun. Imposing further restrictions on gun possession were not included in the Brady Bill’s intentions.
Definition of acquire.
acquire
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transitive verb
1. To gain possession of. 2. To get by one's own efforts. 3. To gain through experience; come by.
So if you send a firearm back to the manufacturer to be worked on or to a gunsmith, the gunsmith requires you to fill out a background check on the gunsmith???????????????
No Scooter, the gunsmith with an FFL has a background check run on initial issuance and renewal. Already done.
And you're asserting one is required for him to give you your own gun back? All to comply with NICS? I'm not so sure about that.
The gunsmith at time of drop off can ask for ID and CHP or Handgun certificate which under permanent exemption is a background check for 3 years on the certificate and 5 years on the CHP with all contacts regarding such goes to the NSP not the feds. So yes he can run a Background check easily either on drop off or pickup. Sorry Scooter.
No other state requires that, including my own.
Ohh but they do and some are even worse.
You're misinterpreting I'd imagine.
Nope I am not.
I fill out a 4473 hand DL and CHP to dealer to buy a handgun, dealer takes photocopies of same, I pay and walk.
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So besides this list is there a sunset clause like the 94 bill? Do you have to register to keep current owned guns and magazines on the list? It makes all transfers illegal. In a generation, they would be gone if nobody stands up. If all transfers are banned, how do you get one repaired at the factory or a gunsmith. Aren’t those considered transfers? No, they aren't a change in ownership. Are you sure? Does transfer explicitly say ownership change? As in Nebraska law already With some exceptions, individuals cannot purchase, lease, rent, or receive transfer of a handgun in Nebraska without this certificate.The exceptions are: • Federally licensed firearms dealers; • Individuals acquiring antique handguns; • Persons authorized to acquire handguns on behalf of a law enforcement agency; • Temporary transfers when the transferee remains in the line of sight of the transferor or within the premises of an established shooting facility;• Transfers between a person and his or her spouse, sibling, parent, child, aunt, uncle, niece, nephew, or grandparent; • Holders of a valid permit under the Concealed Handgun Permit Act; and • Peace officers. Under this it seems that by sending it to a gunsmith or factory would be considered a temporary transfer, now seeings how .gov loves to change definitions of sex, recession or whatever to fit their sh*t agenda I see where the definition of transfer could be changed. Food for thought. Not sure the Feds care about your state law. But the temporary transfer you bolded would mean handing the gun to a friend to shoot. Your own quote specifically states an exception to receive a handgun is an FFL which a factory or a gunsmith must hold. Nono e has answer is there a sunset clause like the 94 bill? Also what are the steps to grandfather current guns? Do you have to register them to get them grandfathered in?
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Looks like my 03’s and 1917 won’t be allowed and my Remington 722 is banned as well. Idiots
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