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If it stinks, don't eat it. laugh


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Originally Posted by Anaconda
One factor that few people take into consideration, condition the product is stored in.
#1 Temperature;
Refrigerated products will last twice as long stored at 32-33 % compared to 37-38%
Most household refrigerators are set closer to that 37-38% range, cutting shelf life in half.
Put an accurate thermometer in your refrigerator, and adjust it down to 32-33%

Exactly, amen.

I keep all our fridges in the 32° - 33° range .... matter of fact, meat kept in the bottom drawers are stiff, almost frozen, and they last well past expiration dates and red meats age really well at those temps without being frost bitten.

One has to learn how to properly manage their fridges at those temps, especially with some fruits and veggies like cucumbers and zucchini but, once you get the hang of it and fully understand that cold goes down ... the closer the fridge is to freezing, the better.

The milk thing someone else mentioned ... somehow milk producers seem to have that down to a science but I'll still use soured milk to cook with.

Lately I've gone to this Fairlife milk and I love it plus it lasts well past its best by date for some reason. I've not figured that out yet. Same with certain cheeses and yogurts. One thing I've learned about block and hoop cheeses is I quit storing them in plastic zip lock bags and instead I've gone to wrapping them in wax paper or parchment paper and keeping them in a cheese box (not provolone or harvarti).


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Originally Posted by wabigoon
If it stinks, don't eat it. laugh

Or just cook it a little longer.


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I've used medications that are 14 years past their date. I usually take 3 instead of 2 - figuring the potency has decreased. I'm still around and vertical.


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Originally Posted by Buckshot77
We didn't have a lot of money growing up and Dad worked at a grocery store. I was raised on out of date lunch meat, dark steaks and out of date milk.
Same here except the milk part and I was the dad. The 1st thing right off the bat is to ensure that the seal has not been broken and go from there.

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.... matter of fact, meat kept in the bottom drawers are stiff, almost frozen, and they last well past expiration dates and red meats age really well at those temps without being frost bitten.


Water freezes at 32%, meat freezes at 27-28%
Industry professional keep meat coolers at 28%, it doubles the shelf life again compared to 32-33%


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Originally Posted by wabigoon
If it stinks, don't eat it. laugh

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The only thing I pay attention to is skim milk. Usually the best to use date is fairly accurate. Seems skim milk will go south quicker than 2% or whole milk.


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The food bank around here will take canned goods 2 years past the “best by” date.


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Originally Posted by Deans
The only thing I pay attention to is skim milk. Usually the best to use date is fairly accurate. Seems skim milk will go south quicker than 2% or whole milk.
I noticed this back in the 1980s. Skim milk is crap, anyway. It's what used to get thrown away or fed to the pigs after making cream. They found a way to sell it like it was a health food. It's sugar water as far as your body is concerned.

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I finished a gallon of 2% milk last night that the use date was 7/20. My fridge is set at 33 degrees.

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I tell her it’s “Best before” not “Bad after”.

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Originally Posted by hatari
All women should have a "best when used by..." or better yet "discard after 01/00/20??" stamped on their forehead.

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Our DIL is paranoid about dates.
If you buy organic milk it won’t go bad in any reasonable time.


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Got 3 - 3lb boxes of a private label brand name American cheese a couple of weeks ago. Something I thought was a bit unusual was they had a "Sell By" instead of a "Use By" date and instead of being on the outside of the box it's printed on side of the vacuum sealed cheese package INSIDE, so obviously you'd have to open the box and remove it first to even see the date.

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Originally Posted by hatari
All women should have a "best when used by..." or better yet "discard after 01/00/20??" stamped on their forehead.

Forehead? Who looks at her forehead? smile

I bought a gallon of milk two days before it's "expiration", or best used by (I forgot which) date a while back, opened it the next morning.

I drank the last of it nearly a month later, and it's taste was off just a bit- starting to turn, but palatable.

Public school kids in the cafeteria, partaking of "free" or reduced price meals are the worst about this "I can't drink this- it's expired".
For one thing, they do not differentiate between "best used by", and "expiration". Indoctrination works!

Most of them have other unfounded issues as well....


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Originally Posted by Irving_D
Do you toss it if it's past the date. Got in a big fight over it. Growing up poor we had to do the sniff test before we tossed anything hell I've seen my dad do the taste test after it failed the smell test and say it's still good. Most of our bread and milk we got from a friend of my dad who would give it to use when it was getting close or had passed the date. I yelled at her for dumping a half empty jug of creamer out because it was past the date. Literally after I just finished a cup of coffee.
I'm like you - I don't toss anything unless it smells bad, tastes bad or it LOOKS like chit (i.e, deviled eggs. But I digress. )

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Originally Posted by org_Rogue_Hunter
I think of the dates as "lawyer dates"...a liability issue to protect the mfg.

Exp. dates on most can goods are usually 12-14 months...I double that date, and do smell test.

Dairy products, milk. If scum(fat) starts building up on side of carton, I just give it a good shake to re-blend it. Smell test on milk tells the tail.

Even two years is way too soon for canned food.

I use the expiration date as a marker, not a deadline.

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