I'm no fire strategist but I know several career guys who are...the one thing they all agree on...none of these wars were ever won in the air, more so as the forest canopy gets thicker and steeper. They do admit that aerial attack can buy precious time for the "infantry'' to build dozer and handline. And they are at their most effective when the smaller rotary aircraft is used out where spotfires are erupting outside the line. GSA did a study a few years back on cost/benefit ratio of air resources, conclusion, least bang for the buck. It was buried, air resource contractors lobby like any other multi million dollar government vendors. Not sayin' I wasn't happy to see air attack around here the last few years, I didn't seem to mind the cost when I could see flames from my shack, grin. CalFire strategy is direct attack whenever possible, and they need air for that strategy to work safely. The Forest Service uses the "big box" strategy, back off a ridge or two and plan for a dirt line days out, and let everything burn inside the big box. Water drops dry out within an hour or so, retardant stays gooey for a few hours but eventually dries also, so it's very wasteful to dump water inside the big box. Bare mineral earth fireline is what contains forest fires in the end.
Great post.
Fixed and rotary wing air resources also keep remote fires small in the initial attack stage until ground units can extinguish them.
Thanks for posting this. A friend said he saw it kicking off the other day, but, I hadn't heard more. Hell, I'd forgotten about it, 15 miles away and all.
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Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the first jet tanker pic a Lockheed tri-star? British military used the same basic plane as a bus to various parts of the planet.
It's a DC-10. The DC-10 and the L-1011 look similar.
With a gust of wind, the Elmo 2 Fire destroyed the home of a couple who had spent the last 18 months and their life savings building the home themselves.
Lisa and Steve Holett were finishing their retirement dream home on the west side of Flathead Lake when fast-moving flames torched their nearly finished house and the fifth-wheel trailer they were living in during construction.
The Holetts were just weeks away from moving in. They had construction insurance which will cover a fraction of the material costs, full coverage home insurance is not permitted until a home is completed.
The Holetts stated that they would not be able to rebuild.
As of Monday there have been 8 permanent residences lost to this fire.
Padded VA Hospital Rooms for $1000 Alex
Originally Posted by renegade50
My ignoree,s will never be Rock Stars on 24 hr campfire.....Like me!!!!
If your worried about nature move to town or take matters into your own hands. Neat rigs but just more wasteful government spending of the taxpayers dollars. In life a little common sense goes a long ways in saving your azz.
With a gust of wind, the Elmo 2 Fire destroyed the home of a couple who had spent the last 18 months and their life savings building the home themselves.
Lisa and Steve Holett were finishing their retirement dream home on the west side of Flathead Lake when fast-moving flames torched their nearly finished house and the fifth-wheel trailer they were living in during construction.
The Holetts were just weeks away from moving in. They had construction insurance which will cover a fraction of the material costs, full coverage home insurance is not permitted until a home is completed.
The Holetts stated that they would not be able to rebuild.
As of Monday there have been 8 permanent residences lost to this fire.
Well no schidt. These are people without a clue. It's ugly as fugg but if you want to keep that from burning you need at least a 100' free fire zone. You're going to need a lot of water on site and you need stucco or block. Then you need a lot of luck.
Fight fire, save lives, laugh in the face of danger.