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I just had a sewage pump replaced. Pump was 1200, labor was 2100, two hour job including pumping out the holding tank. Stung.
I'll do it next time, I really didnt know what was all involved. I understand the overhead, but 1050 an hour?
Tree guys who pull up with 500k in equipment only get 350-400 an hour depending on the crew the send around here. Did ours 3 years ago. Lowes pumps are $150 pieces of crap. Did some finagling and bought a Goulds from a trade supply place through my wife's companies hardware store name. $700 for a commercial, constant duty rated pump. (One and done for awhile.) After I was done, was talking to a friend that owns a water business and does some septic. He told me the cheapest permit he can get to even start such a job is $3-400. Before the pump and labor.
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That was a hell of a lot, did you get other bids??? I apologize for not being more clear in the previous posts... A friend was asked to bid on a resurfacing job (the wearing surface... i.e. the wood that you actually walk on on a deck) by a Realtor selling a house. Buyer and seller agree a new deck wearing surface is appropriate for the sale of the house. It is a short 3 day turn around job accordingly. The framing is good to go, but the wearing surface (5/4 board) is poor/failing. He bid the job at $11,000... and the buyer/seller/Realtor accepted his bid of $11,000. He will be using 2x6 lumber as an upgrade. If he pulls the job off in 3 days he will make $2,733 a day after materials, but not including chainsaw gas, fuel, dump fees (if any), CCCP permits etc. Basically $250 per hour plus/minus... That was the nature of my question. Is $250 per hour a reasonable rate for a blue collar laborer? Again... my apologies for any confusion in not being more clear previously. You were extremely clear, apparently more folks than I would’ve guessed lack reading comprehension.
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250 per hour is not reasonable in my mind
i work in a 4 million dollar dealership and we charge 129.00 per hour our overhead is way more than a truck and tools and we have skilled labor also
you said the job would take three days so 24 hours with my math with a 2700 dollar profit ....does add up to the 250 per hour you stated in the above post.
so great money in my opinion....most skilled carpenters around hear are 35-50 per hour
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People get paid what they get paid. People charge what they think they deserve and, in some cases, what they think their client can pay. The ones that get me are the guys who are pulling in a half million a year for producing nothing, who then complain about what another makes with his hands. GD your not suggesting that flapping your lips and punching computer keys isnt highly skilled labor , are ya Dog?   Holeeee FUGG! McD’s starting at 22.$? That can’t be accurate. Even here in the Northeast, a dishwasher still gets hired at under 20.$ an hour. Dunkin’ Donuts I believe paying same or a dollar or two less to start. Then McD’s behind that at around 16. Maybe. people with opioid addictions get to work at a discount because they move slower? Well, I guess that begs the question Azzhat, should a methhead get paid double time for speed? GFY
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One of my coworkers was recently quoted 21k for a garage slab. Tear out and replace or new?
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U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics Employer Costs for Employee Compensation for the Regions – March 2022 Private industry employer costs for employee compensation among the four regions of the country ranged from $34.45 per hour in the South to $42.83 in the Northeast in March 2022, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today. In the other two regions, hourly employer costs for employee compensation stood at $37.46 in the Midwest and $42.35 in the West. (See chart 1.) In addition to regional estimates, employer costs for nine smaller geographic divisions are also available. Within divisions, total compensation costs ranged from $31.70 per hour in the East South Central division to $45.21 in the Pacific region. (See table 1.) Employer Costs for Employee Compensation (ECEC) are based on the National Compensation Survey, which measures employer costs for wages, salaries, and employee benefits. (Geographic definitions of the regions and divisions follow in the Technical Note.) ![[Linked Image from bls.gov]](https://www.bls.gov/regions/southwest/images/95755.png) In the Northeast, hourly total compensation costs in March 2022 were comprised of the following: wages and salaries ($29.54) made up 69.0 percent, while total benefits ($13.29) accounted for the remaining 31.0 percent of compensation costs. Insurance costs, which include life, health, and short- and long-term disability, averaged $3.41 per hour worked, or 8.0 percent of all compensation costs. Costs for paid leave, which includes vacation, holiday, sick, and personal leave, averaged $3.35 per hour worked, accounting for 7.8 percent of total compensation costs. Legally required benefits, which include Social Security, Medicare, unemployment insurance (both state and federal), and workers' compensation, averaged $3.29 per hour and represented 7.7 percent of total compensation costs. In the West, hourly wages and salaries averaged $29.86 and accounted for 70.5 percent of all compensation costs. Total benefits averaged $12.49, or 29.5 percent of compensation costs. Legally required benefits averaged $3.31, or 7.8 percent of compensation costs. Paid leave costs were $3.22 per hour, or 7.6 percent of regional compensation costs. Insurance costs averaged $3.15 per hour, accounting for 7.4 percent of total compensation in the West. The Midwest region recorded an hourly wage and salary average of $25.87 in March 2022, representing 69.1 percent of all compensation costs. Total benefits averaged $11.59 and accounted for the remaining 30.9 percent of total compensation costs. The three highest major categories for employer benefits were: insurance costs ($3.23 per hour worked), legally required benefits ($2.76), and paid leave ($2.70). These categories represented 8.6 percent, 7.4 percent, and 7.2 percent, respectively, of total employer compensation costs in the Midwest. In the South, wages and salaries averaged $24.95 per hour and comprised 72.4 percent of total employer compensation costs, while benefits, at $9.51 per hour, accounted for the remaining 27.6 percent. Legally required benefits averaged $2.54 per hour worked, followed by paid leave at $2.50 per hour; these categories accounted for 7.4 percent and 7.3 percent, respectively, of total compensation costs in the South. Insurance costs were the third-highest benefit cost and averaged $2.28 per hour, accounting for 6.6 percent of employer compensation for the region. Overall, compensation costs among private industry employers in the United States averaged $38.61 per hour worked in March 2022. Wages and salaries, at $27.19 per hour, accounted for 70.4 percent of these costs, while benefits, at $11.42, made up the remaining 29.6 percent. The June 2022 national release on Employer Costs for Employee Compensation is scheduled to be released on Tuesday, September 20, 2022, at 10:00 a.m. (ET). Technical Note Employer Costs for Employee Compensation (ECEC) provides the average employer cost for wages and salaries as well as benefits per employee hour worked. Employer Costs for Employee Compensation data in this release cover private industry. Excluded from private industry are the self-employed, agricultural workers, and private household workers. Data for this reference period were collected from a probability sample of approximately 23,400 occupational observations selected from a sample of about 5,900 private industry establishments. The private industry sample is rotated over approximately three years, which makes the sample more representative of the economy and reduces respondent burden. Data are collected for the pay period including the 12th day of the survey months of March, June, September, and December. Employer Costs for Employee Compensation data on total compensation, wages and salaries, and benefits in private industry are produced annually in the March reference period for 15 combined and metropolitan statistical areas (CSA and MSA). Further information about metropolitan area ECEC estimates is available at www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/cwc/bls-introd...ry-workers-in-15-metropolitan-areas.pdf.For detailed information on ECEC, see “National Compensation Measures,” of the BLS Handbook of Methods at www.bls.gov/opub/hom/ncs/home.htm. Current and historical BLS data are also available online at www.bls.gov/ect.Information in this release will be made available to individuals with sensory impairments upon request. Voice phone: (202) 691-5200; Telecommunications Relay Service: 7-1-1. Regional definitions Northeast region New England division: Connecticut, Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, Vermont Middle Atlantic division: New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania Midwest region East North Central division: Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Ohio, Wisconsin West North Central division: Iowa, Kansas, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, North Dakota, South Dakota South region South Atlantic division: Delaware, District of Columbia, Florida, Georgia, Maryland, North Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia, West Virginia East South Central division: Alabama, Kentucky, Mississippi, Tennessee West South Central division: Arkansas, Louisiana, Oklahoma, Texas West region Mountain division: Arizona, Colorado, Idaho, Montana, Nevada, New Mexico, Utah, Wyoming Pacific division: Alaska, California, Hawaii, Oregon, Washington Table 1. Employer Costs for Employee Compensation for private industry workers by census region and division [Mar. 2022] Area (1) Total compensation (2) Wages and salaries Total benefits Paid leave Supplemental pay Insurance Retirement and savings Legally required benefits Cost ($) Percent Cost ($) Percent Cost ($) Percent Cost ($) Percent Cost ($) Percent Cost ($) Percent Cost ($) Percent Cost ($) Percent Northeast 42.83 100.0 29.54 69.0 13.29 31.0 3.35 7.8 1.60 3.7 3.41 8.0 1.63 3.8 3.29 7.7 New England 42.27 100.0 29.19 69.0 13.08 31.0 3.28 7.8 1.87 4.4 3.24 7.7 1.51 3.6 3.19 7.5 Middle Atlantic 43.04 100.0 29.68 69.0 13.36 31.0 3.38 7.9 1.50 3.5 3.48 8.1 1.67 3.9 3.33 7.7 South 34.45 100.0 24.95 72.4 9.51 27.6 2.50 7.3 1.16 3.4 2.28 6.6 1.02 3.0 2.54 7.4 South Atlantic 35.26 100.0 25.50 72.3 9.76 27.7 2.63 7.5 1.10 3.1 2.34 6.6 1.05 3.0 2.64 7.5 East South Central 31.70 100.0 22.80 71.9 8.90 28.1 2.22 7.0 1.04 3.3 2.35 7.4 0.97 3.1 2.31 7.3 West South Central 34.38 100.0 25.02 72.8 9.36 27.2 2.40 7.0 1.32 3.9 2.16 6.3 1.01 2.9 2.47 7.2 Midwest 37.46 100.0 25.87 69.1 11.59 30.9 2.70 7.2 1.47 3.9 3.23 8.6 1.43 3.8 2.76 7.4 East North Central 38.64 100.0 26.72 69.1 11.93 30.9 2.79 7.2 1.51 3.9 3.23 8.4 1.58 4.1 2.82 7.3 West North Central 34.86 100.0 24.00 68.8 10.86 31.2 2.51 7.2 1.38 4.0 3.23 9.3 1.11 3.2 2.63 7.6 West 42.35 100.0 29.86 70.5 12.49 29.5 3.22 7.6 1.37 3.2 3.15 7.4 1.45 3.4 3.31 7.8 Mountain 35.85 100.0 25.37 70.8 10.48 29.2 2.53 7.0 1.24 3.5 2.84 7.9 1.16 3.2 2.72 7.6 Pacific 45.21 100.0 31.83 70.4 13.38 29.6 3.53 7.8 1.42 3.1 3.29 7.3 1.57 3.5 3.57 7.9 (1) The census divisions are defined as follows: New England: Connecticut, Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, and Vermont; Middle Atlantic: New Jersey, New York, and Pennsylvania; South Atlantic: Delaware, District of Columbia, Florida, Georgia, Maryland, North Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia, and West Virginia; East South Central: Alabama, Kentucky, Mississippi, and Tennessee; West South Central: Arkansas, Louisiana, Oklahoma, and Texas; East North Central: Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Ohio, and Wisconsin; West North Central: Iowa, Kansas, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, North Dakota, and South Dakota; Mountain: Arizona, Colorado, Idaho, Montana, Nevada, New Mexico, Utah, and Wyoming; and Pacific: Alaska, California, Hawaii, Oregon, and Washington. 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U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics Employer Costs for Employee Compensation for the Regions – March 2022 Private industry employer costs for employee compensation among the four regions of the country ranged from $34.45 per hour in the South to $42.83 in the Northeast in March 2022, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today. In the other two regions, hourly employer costs for employee compensation stood at $37.46 in the Midwest and $42.35 in the West. (See chart 1.) In addition to regional estimates, employer costs for nine smaller geographic divisions are also available. Within divisions, total compensation costs ranged from $31.70 per hour in the East South Central division to $45.21 in the Pacific region. (See table 1.) Employer Costs for Employee Compensation (ECEC) are based on the National Compensation Survey, which measures employer costs for wages, salaries, and employee benefits. (Geographic definitions of the regions and divisions follow in the Technical Note.) In the Northeast, hourly total compensation costs in March 2022 were comprised of the following: wages and salaries ($29.54) made up 69.0 percent, while total benefits ($13.29) accounted for the remaining 31.0 percent of compensation costs. Insurance costs, which include life, health, and short- and long-term disability, averaged $3.41 per hour worked, or 8.0 percent of all compensation costs. Costs for paid leave, which includes vacation, holiday, sick, and personal leave, averaged $3.35 per hour worked, accounting for 7.8 percent of total compensation costs. Legally required benefits, which include Social Security, Medicare, unemployment insurance (both state and federal), and workers' compensation, averaged $3.29 per hour and represented 7.7 percent of total compensation costs. In the West, hourly wages and salaries averaged $29.86 and accounted for 70.5 percent of all compensation costs. Total benefits averaged $12.49, or 29.5 percent of compensation costs. Legally required benefits averaged $3.31, or 7.8 percent of compensation costs. Paid leave costs were $3.22 per hour, or 7.6 percent of regional compensation costs. Insurance costs averaged $3.15 per hour, accounting for 7.4 percent of total compensation in the West. The Midwest region recorded an hourly wage and salary average of $25.87 in March 2022, representing 69.1 percent of all compensation costs. Total benefits averaged $11.59 and accounted for the remaining 30.9 percent of total compensation costs. The three highest major categories for employer benefits were: insurance costs ($3.23 per hour worked), legally required benefits ($2.76), and paid leave ($2.70). These categories represented 8.6 percent, 7.4 percent, and 7.2 percent, respectively, of total employer compensation costs in the Midwest. In the South, wages and salaries averaged $24.95 per hour and comprised 72.4 percent of total employer compensation costs, while benefits, at $9.51 per hour, accounted for the remaining 27.6 percent. Legally required benefits averaged $2.54 per hour worked, followed by paid leave at $2.50 per hour; these categories accounted for 7.4 percent and 7.3 percent, respectively, of total compensation costs in the South. Insurance costs were the third-highest benefit cost and averaged $2.28 per hour, accounting for 6.6 percent of employer compensation for the region. Overall, compensation costs among private industry employers in the United States averaged $38.61 per hour worked in March 2022. Wages and salaries, at $27.19 per hour, accounted for 70.4 percent of these costs, while benefits, at $11.42, made up the remaining 29.6 percent. The June 2022 national release on Employer Costs for Employee Compensation is scheduled to be released on Tuesday, September 20, 2022, at 10:00 a.m. (ET). Technical Note Employer Costs for Employee Compensation (ECEC) provides the average employer cost for wages and salaries as well as benefits per employee hour worked. Employer Costs for Employee Compensation data in this release cover private industry. Excluded from private industry are the self-employed, agricultural workers, and private household workers. Data for this reference period were collected from a probability sample of approximately 23,400 occupational observations selected from a sample of about 5,900 private industry establishments. The private industry sample is rotated over approximately three years, which makes the sample more representative of the economy and reduces respondent burden. Data are collected for the pay period including the 12th day of the survey months of March, June, September, and December. Employer Costs for Employee Compensation data on total compensation, wages and salaries, and benefits in private industry are produced annually in the March reference period for 15 combined and metropolitan statistical areas (CSA and MSA). Further information about metropolitan area ECEC estimates is available at www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/cwc/bls-introd...ry-workers-in-15-metropolitan-areas.pdf.For detailed information on ECEC, see “National Compensation Measures,” of the BLS Handbook of Methods at www.bls.gov/opub/hom/ncs/home.htm. Current and historical BLS data are also available online at www.bls.gov/ect.Information in this release will be made available to individuals with sensory impairments upon request. Voice phone: (202) 691-5200; Telecommunications Relay Service: 7-1-1. Regional definitions Northeast region New England division: Connecticut, Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, Vermont Middle Atlantic division: New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania Midwest region East North Central division: Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Ohio, Wisconsin West North Central division: Iowa, Kansas, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, North Dakota, South Dakota South region South Atlantic division: Delaware, District of Columbia, Florida, Georgia, Maryland, North Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia, West Virginia East South Central division: Alabama, Kentucky, Mississippi, Tennessee West South Central division: Arkansas, Louisiana, Oklahoma, Texas West region Mountain division: Arizona, Colorado, Idaho, Montana, Nevada, New Mexico, Utah, Wyoming Pacific division: Alaska, California, Hawaii, Oregon, Washington Table 1. Employer Costs for Employee Compensation for private industry workers by census region and division [Mar. 2022] Area (1) Total compensation (2) Wages and salaries Total benefits Paid leave Supplemental pay Insurance Retirement and savings Legally required benefits Cost ($) Percent Cost ($) Percent Cost ($) Percent Cost ($) Percent Cost ($) Percent Cost ($) Percent Cost ($) Percent Cost ($) Percent Northeast 42.83 100.0 29.54 69.0 13.29 31.0 3.35 7.8 1.60 3.7 3.41 8.0 1.63 3.8 3.29 7.7 New England 42.27 100.0 29.19 69.0 13.08 31.0 3.28 7.8 1.87 4.4 3.24 7.7 1.51 3.6 3.19 7.5 Middle Atlantic 43.04 100.0 29.68 69.0 13.36 31.0 3.38 7.9 1.50 3.5 3.48 8.1 1.67 3.9 3.33 7.7 South 34.45 100.0 24.95 72.4 9.51 27.6 2.50 7.3 1.16 3.4 2.28 6.6 1.02 3.0 2.54 7.4 South Atlantic 35.26 100.0 25.50 72.3 9.76 27.7 2.63 7.5 1.10 3.1 2.34 6.6 1.05 3.0 2.64 7.5 East South Central 31.70 100.0 22.80 71.9 8.90 28.1 2.22 7.0 1.04 3.3 2.35 7.4 0.97 3.1 2.31 7.3 West South Central 34.38 100.0 25.02 72.8 9.36 27.2 2.40 7.0 1.32 3.9 2.16 6.3 1.01 2.9 2.47 7.2 Midwest 37.46 100.0 25.87 69.1 11.59 30.9 2.70 7.2 1.47 3.9 3.23 8.6 1.43 3.8 2.76 7.4 East North Central 38.64 100.0 26.72 69.1 11.93 30.9 2.79 7.2 1.51 3.9 3.23 8.4 1.58 4.1 2.82 7.3 West North Central 34.86 100.0 24.00 68.8 10.86 31.2 2.51 7.2 1.38 4.0 3.23 9.3 1.11 3.2 2.63 7.6 West 42.35 100.0 29.86 70.5 12.49 29.5 3.22 7.6 1.37 3.2 3.15 7.4 1.45 3.4 3.31 7.8 Mountain 35.85 100.0 25.37 70.8 10.48 29.2 2.53 7.0 1.24 3.5 2.84 7.9 1.16 3.2 2.72 7.6 Pacific 45.21 100.0 31.83 70.4 13.38 29.6 3.53 7.8 1.42 3.1 3.29 7.3 1.57 3.5 3.57 7.9 (1) The census divisions are defined as follows: New England: Connecticut, Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, and Vermont; Middle Atlantic: New Jersey, New York, and Pennsylvania; South Atlantic: Delaware, District of Columbia, Florida, Georgia, Maryland, North Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia, and West Virginia; East South Central: Alabama, Kentucky, Mississippi, and Tennessee; West South Central: Arkansas, Louisiana, Oklahoma, and Texas; East North Central: Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Ohio, and Wisconsin; West North Central: Iowa, Kansas, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, North Dakota, and South Dakota; Mountain: Arizona, Colorado, Idaho, Montana, Nevada, New Mexico, Utah, and Wyoming; and Pacific: Alaska, California, Hawaii, Oregon, and Washington. (2) Includes costs for wages and salaries and benefits. Last Modified Date: Friday, June 17, 2022 This is what a lot don't get. More to it than paid hourly wage.
The last time that bear ate a lawyer he had the runs for 33 days!
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Factory work.
Our health insurance package is around $25k/yr.
I pay $4k of that.
Our lowest starting wage is (way too low currently) $14/hr
So a family guy is going to earn $28k, and cost $21k just in insurance.
Match his SS, his pension is around $2.50/hr, he gets $50k life insurance,
short term disability, vision and dental at no cost. Throw in the cost
of Workmans Comp, pretty soon that guy at $14/hr is actually costing
upwards of $30/hr. Due to so many costs being fixed, our $27/hr rate
actually looks somewhat better. In the pay to cost ratio.
Parents who say they have good kids..Usually don't!
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Factory work.
Our health insurance package is around $25k/yr.
I pay $4k of that.
Our lowest starting wage is (way too low currently) $14/hr
So a family guy is going to earn $28k, and cost $21k just in insurance.
Match his SS, his pension is around $2.50/hr, he gets $50k life insurance,
short term disability, vision and dental at no cost. Throw in the cost
of Workmans Comp, pretty soon that guy at $14/hr is actually costing
upwards of $30/hr. Due to so many costs being fixed, our $27/hr rate
actually looks somewhat better. In the pay to cost ratio. One bad thing in the factory where I am on the maintenance side so it is a bit different than on the assembly, paint, weld, material handler side of things is that they are starting help within a buck or 2 of what seasoned help is. Hard for good help that been here a while to want to stick around. Piece work welders are $18.50-20 an hour DOQ. Guys that have been here 4 or 5 years are barely over $20 an hour. Talk about a poke in the eye. If these guys knew what we made in maintenance they would schitt squealing worms. Like posted earlier, take care of the good help and quit hiring new help on a weekly or daily basis.
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Don't forget paying taxes on that money. There goes 40%.
A true sportsman counts his achievements in proportion to the effort involved and fairness of the sport. - S. Pope
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Charles is pretty fast... and skilled 7AM today ![[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]](https://i.postimg.cc/tCWQCBbh/681820768.jpg) ![[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]](https://i.postimg.cc/15PMwB60/681820737-1.jpg) 10:30 update... he has a 12:30 deadline (Bank loan Underwriting Inspection @ 12:30). ![[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]](https://i.postimg.cc/cJqc1cs8/681834118-2.jpg) ![[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]](https://i.postimg.cc/gcB8kKsk/681834130.jpg) 2 1/2 day job at $11,500 (price went up yesterday). I'll post the final $$$ after the job... +/- $250 per hour. I consider that a fair wage on fast skill.
If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.
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He was running solo (with just his dad hauling lumber), but snagged a friend this AM to meet the time crunch.
If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.
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I just had a sewage pump replaced. Pump was 1200, labor was 2100, two hour job including pumping out the holding tank. Stung.
I'll do it next time, I really didnt know what was all involved. I understand the overhead, but 1050 an hour?
Tree guys who pull up with 500k in equipment only get 350-400 an hour depending on the crew the send around here. Did ours 3 years ago. Lowes pumps are $150 pieces of crap. Did some finagling and bought a Goulds from a trade supply place through my wife's companies hardware store name. $700 for a commercial, constant duty rated pump. (One and done for awhile.) After I was done, was talking to a friend that owns a water business and does some septic. He told me the cheapest permit he can get to even start such a job is $3-400. Before the pump and labor. Mine didn't need a permit for a pump replacement, atleast where I'm at. I forgot what brand this one was but its industrial, goulds you mentioned sounds familiar, I checked prices online, cheapest I found it was 1k, wanted to be sure they werent atleast screwing me on parts. These should last atleast 10 years. I know tractor supply carries some that have 5 year warranties. They sumerged this one all the way, the old one was only a few inches submerged. They explained to me that having it fully submerged helps it run cooler. Anyway, it was an expensive lesson. I can definitely do the next one if time comes.
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Charles is pretty fast... and skilled 7AM today 10:30 update... he has a 12:30 deadline (Bank loan Underwriting Inspection @ 12:30). 2 1/2 day job at $11,500 (price went up yesterday). I'll post the final $$$ after the job... +/- $250 per hour. I consider that a fair wage on fast skill. Why did he switch it to 2X's? Are they less $ than 5/4?
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I'll post the final $$$ after the job... +/- $250 per hour.
I consider that a fair wage on fast skill. What's the old adage? There's good, fast & cheap. You can only pick two. You got good and fast.
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I'll post the final $$$ after the job... +/- $250 per hour.
I consider that a fair wage on fast skill. What's the old adage? There's good, fast & cheap. You can only pick two. You got good and fast. But certainly not cheap, that is decent money if you ask me.
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Due to geopolitical reasons the blue collar worker is rising in value. And I am very glad for that.
Now if the pencil pushers, bureaucrats and money handlers would have a decline in value that would be even better.
That being said, if you aren't handy, expect to pay.
Originally Posted by Judman
PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Campfire Kahuna
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Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Jan 2012
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That rotten skirt lattice is really special 🤣
Is howard or moe gonna leave that or is it gettin a do over too?
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Joined: Feb 2013
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Campfire Ranger
Joined: Feb 2013
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That rotten skirt lattice is really special 🤣
Is howard or moe gonna leave that or is it gettin a do over too? Wasn't in the bid... and not structural/safety so a non-item for the Real Estate deal. I'll post the final $$$ after the job... +/- $250 per hour.
I consider that a fair wage on fast skill. What's the old adage? There's good, fast & cheap. You can only pick two. You got good and fast. BINGO! Charles is pretty fast... and skilled
. Why did he switch it to 2X's? Are they less $ than 5/4? 5/4 is JUNK... like T1-11 siding. Never lasts. 2x6s were an upgrade agreed upon by the buyer/seller and both Realtors. Personally... they should have gone a tiny bit more for 2x8s... PT 2x8s come 18' and 20'+ around here... i.e. no joints on a 18' x 18' deck, but nope... they wanted 2x6x16' with joints.
If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.
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