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I am all for the draft if our nation is in jeopardy, but for nation building in other countries, no way. For the record, I was drafted, and served. miles

US Army Reserve, Staff Seargent when discharged.

I appreciate everyone here who was Drafted/Served, Volunteered, or Enlisted. I agree that not everyone is cut out for Military duty, and this is a "terrible time" to Volunteer/Enlist. There IS a difference between a Draft to "fill the Ranks, etc" and a Draft to "replace thousands of casualties" in a Hot War. I'm talking about a War that is on every American's mind, not "hidden off to the side, i.e. the War on Terror. I'm not talking about the latter, as then, all bets are off! But "right now", I just don't see anything wrong with putting young people to work for 2 years, putting the proverbial boot up their butt to motivate them and then giving them GI Benefits later. And its a "pipe dream" of mine that it would "start with the Draft Dodgers kids". But that's just me. In no way do I even think everyone on this Board has the same Worldview that I do, ha, its "just us guys" throwing around Opinions. I appreciate everyone's input/reaction.

I remember all of that Presidential Fitness. It was like middle school olympics. But compulsory

That 600 yard dash was a mfker 🤣🤣

Uggggh, bad morning to have eaten that Steak Umm sammich

The child of a draft dodger or a politician should get drafted first?

Get sent to a potential death row, of just a life totally not suited to them for something their POS parent did? Sounds cool if ya think about it real quick like. But then...wait a minute, that just ain't right.

To dovetail into this conversation, the reason for re-instatement of the draft needs to be defined. Is it to win a war? If so, then re-enlist a mass of old, grumpy, retired military guys, and let them kick ass and take names later rules be damned - all's fair in love and war.

If the purpose of re-instatement is simply to increase troop strength, then every single, solitary, 18yr old should be lined up - regardless. No college deferment; no such thing as 4F. H e ll, drone pilots are joystick jockeys, and you can bet your sweet a$$ most 4F can handle a joystick.

Miles, I recall you and me talking about being Drafted, and serving in S.E. Asia, that was a scary time. makes me proud to know people like you. Rio7

Yep, because they hadn't woke yet. Lazy bastids slept in.

Not sure I understand what youre insinuating

Farm kid special treatment?

Good ole boy running the grain elevator is the local draft board representative?

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Hell, I dodged it. Wanted to be an Aviator and in order to do that, one needs to be an officer and to do that, you need a college degree. BTW, the Vietnam War had the least number of draftees ~ 25% whilst WWII had the most, right at 62%

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After a long few day's of driving in bad weather we made it home, took a couple of day's to get organized, off to Denver, my Uncle lived in Castle Rock, so i went there to spend a couple day's with him and aunt Jeanie, I reported to the Draft office at 9:00 am on Valentines Day Feb.14 th 1959 at 11:00 pm i was in Ft Ord California, in the Army talk about culture shock! This was in the day's people were starting to talk about civil rights and equal rights, but Sargent's could still kick you in the ass if they though needed it, after 8 weeks in Ft Ord, basic training, the Army in their infinite wisdom decided I needed to be a M.P. Back then you couldn't pick you MOS, off i went to Ft. Gordon Ga. to become a Military Cop, by the way Miles Patton, went to signal school at Ft Gordon, While in Ft. Gordon, as a Pvt. making $ 52.00 a month, a guy came and told us we could make $ 55.00 more a month if we volunteered for Airborne, sounded good to me, off I went to Ft. Campbell, Kentucky, where i learned to fall from the sky just like bird Schitt, While i was in jump school here came a guy with a real cute uniform that said if we volunteered, Beware of the word! for Ranger School and made it we would get another $ 65.00 a month, Hell I was going to be rich before to long, off i went to Ft. Bragg N.C.to become a Ranger.---- Duty calls, to be Cont: Rio7

I had a stateside deference, Johns Manville was building fireproof products for the military. I was a wool pusher on GLAZ451 the superfurnace. Wasn’t but a handful of us that knew how to tame and feed that behemoth.

My take on the reason for such a lower percentage of draftees during the Vietnam War versus WWII is many more had the choice to enlist voluntarily for just a 1 year longer commitment and getting trained and assigned to field they qualified in and serving stateside, Europe, etc., rather than being drafted and sent to a combat unit in Vietnam.


As always, though, ... YMMV

Back at you Blue. Some will always do what has to be done. miles

I talked to a lot of soldiers that took the extra year or two to get the duty station of their choice, most rotated through Vietnam, anyway. Never trust a recruiter. miles

I can honestly say - my recruiter never lied to me. Everything happened the way he said it would. Then again, I think some people aren't all that great at asking the right questions - didn't ask and thus weren't told answers that would have changed their choices.

What about the no "involuntary servitude except as punishment for a crime"? Military draft seems unconstitutional. Just as the 2nd amendment doesn't allow exceptions neither does the 13th.

And I don't see the eagerness to draft children of politicians or "draft dodgers". Do we punish children for the perceived misdeeds of the parents as a way of punishing the parents? For all we know the children don't approve of their parents either.

The fuggin shuttle run got my azz every single year. ☠️

I could do all the other stuff, but I could never run that damn thing fast enough.

Steak Umms.

Dang, do they still make them things? French Roll, melted cheese and sauteed onions and peppers.

I could go for one about now!