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My 1-8 .223 loves 50gr vmax. And 75gr Amax.

Hi, rickt300. No worries.

As Mathman mentioned, machining in this case refers to machine tools to cut shapes/sizes.

Regarding measurement of the recoil lug. There are other ways to measure besides perhaps a cheap plunge type dial indicator or vernier tools you may or may not have used in a high school shop class or work. Just to name a few: Indicator graduations can range from .001 to .00005. Gage blocks for part inspection can have tolerances to .000001. Micrometers can read to .0001. I’m not saying a basic square would be the right tool, but even some 6” solid squares are perpendicular to within .0001.

Does it work well switching from one to the other throughout the year or from season to season?

I'm not sure I understand the question. With the right scope on the rifle it can work switching between groups in one range session.

My 8 twist Tikka 22/250 shoots 40 to 80 grain bullets with great consistency and accuracy, quality barrels and neat chambers tend to do that

Seems they have a new 700 coming:

https://internationalsportsman.com/remington-alpha-1-new-model-700-from-remington/

Lou

Sounds like a lot of worthwhile changes

Glad to see that they are doing the following changes:

CNC machining , I had a 700 with a crooked chamber (700 CDL SF).

They don't have to reinvent the wheel, just QC the rifles and don't let them out the door if they fail.

I would contract with Triggertech and replace their triggers.


For those that want faster twist rates screw on a custom barrel.

NIce

This looks surprisingly nice and well thought out. I didn't see a cost. The challenge with cost is that they are now competing with the likes of Bighorn Origins in the action space. If costs are held to a considerate level, this could be a hit.

Why would anyone buy a 700 when Tikkas are so far superior in every way ?

I measure stuff like that every day, but I doubt they are doing it.

Because they aren't. I have both, and while the Tikka is a nice rifle, accurate to boot, it has a bunch of plastic that the 700's do not have, is not nearly as popular, and given a choice between the two, I'll take a 700 every time.

+1 . The tikka shoots straight because it is machined very well, I will take the 700 design over it any day of the week if it is machined and manufactured to specs.. IE tight tolerances. There are thousands of aftermarket accessories made for the 700 and what custom action is is a copy of a Tikka?

I have owned/own Tikkas. They only advantage it has is precise workmanship, good barrel and trigger.

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It wouldn't cost anything to do things like properly timing, changing chambers and twists, etc. And yes, a .243 that shoots 103s can and will shoot 55-70s fine. Its extremely rare to create a twist that will over-spin lighter bullets except in rare circumstances. Meanwhile, other companies are doing this...despite your notion people are happy with old-school.

Look at a Browning stock, their cheap synthetics, it doesn't flex into the barrel under load. Remington USED to sell a lot of rifles with H-S and B&C stocks.

Things like timing don't cost anymore, and hell, they used to come that way.

Their other option is to just fade into oblivion because the budget 700s can't keep the 700 afloat and nobody seems to want them.

I also left off a lot of things I would want to see; 8-40 base screws, side bolt release, Sako-style extractors, one-piece bolt, more secure attachment of the bolt handle, etc.

Want

Ed is correct, the primary extraction is non existant on the new RR receivers. The 5R is a marketing thing. Frank Green, Bartlein, has stated such on the net. If people want it, you make it.

The Tikka bolt is far smoother, and I do prefer the shorter throw to keep my hand clear of the scope ocular, but prefer Remingtons overall.

I've only owned 2 Tikkas, a 223 compact, and a 308 that I currently have. I'd have probably kept the 223, but a great-nephew borrowed it to deer hunt with, and didn't want to give it back, so now he owns it, and has killed several deer with it. The 308 is a very accurate rifle, is stainless, which I really like, and is one I'll probably keep for the foreseeable future. But, they just don't have the appeal to me that a 700 does.

Having said that, I really don't care what brand of a rifle a person likes, or for that matter, dislikes. It's their business what they spend their money on, and no one else's. What I don't like is when I people saying that a certain brand is junk.........when they've never owned that brand. I've owned a slew of 700's and Model 7's. I had the bolt handle come of of one, and had a trigger become faulty on another one. Needless to say, I wasn't very pleased with that. But......I've never owned a 700 that was not a good shooting rifle, shooting as good if not better than any other brand I've owned. It was a sad thing that the company that owned Remington let the quality slip so bad the last years that they owned them, and it turned a lot of people off from buying their product. Hopefully the new company will have the quality control as their number one goal, and turn out a firearm as good and reliable as was once the case.

I started out with a Remington 700 as a young teenager. Years later, I find that no other rifle has that feel in my hands like a 700. Others have a smoother feeding bolt, better trigger, etc. However, the 700 just feels right. The one 700 I have work done to, it is a smoother or smoother than some of the custom actions out there. A lot of that is based on fixing the primary extraction and truing up receiver face, raceway, lugs, etc.

That first 700 in .30-06 is also my most inaccurate bolt gun. It hovers in the 1.5MOA range. I believe this due to the front of the bolt lug making contact with counter-bore area of the barrel. I can't bring myself to have it worked on.