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I’ve transitioned to Taco from Ford and Chevy. Never owned a dodge. Never owned a Jeep, so I can’t speak to them. I like the idea and appearance of many Jeeps, but other owners have told me they tend to nickel and dime you to death.
Definitely get something with an open bed if you’re going to stack it with dead schitt. That’s just common sense. There’s something women love about a Pickup man.
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You can get he best of both Worlds with A Gladiator, you can go were ever and pull a Taco, behind you. a Taco just won't cut it with hard use, we switched from Taco's to Gladiators in 2020 never looked back, now running 5 of them on the ranch. Rio7 Listening to this with great attention. Go read Consumers Guide reports, unless things have changed dramatically changed, you don't want a Jeep They do give bad press, but consumers that are contributing might vary from computer geeks to secretaries. Is there data good? I know...a Chrysler product gets questioned by me as well. But a Rubicon is a step in the best direction. Maybe one of the best attempts that they've done. The modern Powerwagon next. JMFO
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Save a brother some time and give me cliff notes. I don’t know what years are what generations. I know I don’t like all the electronics crap but it is a v6. Don’t like the push button start either. '16+ are 3rd gens........3.5 motor......complaints with auto tranny always searching 2nd gens are highly desirable......'05-'15.......4.0L V6 For example sold my '14 DC SB manual w/96K miles for $26K before all the crazynis started 1st Gens.......ahh yea.... We all know there is no perfect on/off road vehicle But Toyoda knows their schidt pic......my '14 B4 I sold & bought an '03 100 series Land Cruiser (Lexus) Consider a 2nd gen Taco
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The Jeep I own is the cheapest built, most unreliable hunk of schit I've ever seen in my life. I'll never buy another jeep product, I've never seen anything built with such poor quality that didn't come from Russia or China.
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New 2022-23 severe off road use, rocks and gravel.
I’m leaning towards Taco because it has a bed for trash and dead animals.
I’m getting out of the GM/Ford/Ram game
Which one ? Gotta ask? Guys here on this site have bad ass trucks. And plenty of knowledge about the older 22re and 3.slow If you get a engine they are fairly easy to wrench on. 22re that is. Head gasket and the crap sucks with the 3.0 has sucks to work on. You get a new truck…….. it’s gonna cost you. I chose Toyota over the Ford F-150 2.7 and 3.5 Mine runs good. Differential and gears are stock but it goes.
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Johnny, We are using the Sport, nothing fancy, we put wheels and tires, tool box and a winch, we build our own running boards-- rock rails. the basket and winch on the back is for picking up big critters, you can take it off or put it on in 10 min. this one I got in 2019, gets the hell used out of it, no problems. Rio7
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Thanks for the info tikkanut but it will have to be new.
So now its really a toss up betwixed a new taco or jeep because neither is a real taco or jeep.
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My Buddy has a 2015 Cherokee and has stuck over 7 grand in it in the last 2 years. Not even 100,000 miles. Meanwhile I was driving my 2015 Tundra with no problems from 71,000 to 130,000 miles.I traded it in and got almost 22,000 for it in trade on a 22 Tacoma.He is getting 9000 for his Cherokee and has a check engine light on. He is also buying a 22 Tacoma.
So my answer would be Tacoma.
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Toyota!!! Everything else are just wannabes! memtb
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IMO the biggest negatives for Tacoma’s are that the brakes suck compared to most other vehicles and the steering isn’t exactly pinpoint. Those are also two of the week points but among others for Jeeps.
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Johnny, We are using the Sport, nothing fancy, we put wheels and tires, tool box and a winch, we build our own running boards-- rock rails. the basket and winch on the back is for picking up big critters, you can take it off or put it on in 10 min. this one I got in 2019, gets the hell used out of it, no problems. Rio7 You gonna build my rails ? Judging by the mesquite we ain’t that far apart. I ain’t even seen a jeep that color
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I always reference the local KSL ads....... Toyota brings more $$ in Utah than some other regional areas....go figure Before I'd spend $42K + on a new one...... I'd look for a nice clean used western USA 2nd gen Taco Link......one quick example https://cars.ksl.com/listing/8062340
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Only other I considered was a 2019 4cyl.
I might have to buy a donkey and call it a week.
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Thanks for the info tikkanut but it will have to be new.
So now its really a toss up betwixed a new taco or jeep because neither is a real taco or jeep. oh got cha.......me I'm a frugal phhuck........ My wife's GX 460 is our newest......2011
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I always reference the local KSL ads....... Toyota brings more $$ in Utah than some other regional areas....go figure Before I'd spend $42K + on a new one...... I'd look for a nice clean used western USA 2nd gen Taco Link......one quick example OH NO.....rebuilt title https://cars.ksl.com/listing/8062340OH NO rebuilt title
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There's a lot I like about the Taco, but they can't handle the deep sugar sand in S,Texas, they hit deep silt and sugar sand and stop and your stuck, no matter how you have them set up, we tried to make them work for about 5 years. no joy. Rio7
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You'll pay retail at Car Max.......
but the deal will be seam less
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I have a soft top 2 door 1992 Wrangler 4.0 straight 6 The Trans was crap and replaced it with an older bullet proof one after 2 rebuilds. Rebuilt the Engine and put some upgraded racing parts in it to improve wear on those parts. Replace the Computer 3 times.
All of that in a vehicle with less than 200K miles on it
Mine has 4 leaf springs unlike the new ones with front coils.
I can not imagine that Chrysler builds a better Jeep than Jeep did.
Since Chrysler bought out Jeep it has been not so fun some times finding parts for our Wrangler even with the following that Jeep has with the off road groups.
Me personally would have to think very hard before I purchase another Jeep unless it was a very old one that I wanted to work on to keep running.
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I was between the Tacoma and gladiator last year. Only two that had a manual and 6cyl.
Ended up with the gladiator rubicon. 6cyl with 4:10 gearing. Solid front axle. Lockers. Bed about same size as tacoma. Things I like. Great ride, 21mpg hwy. Easy oil change. Plenty of wheel well clearance. Bed low enough, so I can reach in. Seats are comfortable. No problems so far. Only complaint is low end torque is lacking.
Tacoma. Oil change is a pain. (Have to remove skid plates. Oil filter housing is a plastic pos. Seats in back have no leg room. That 3.5 engine is lacking torque, and won't get out of its own way. If you get a auto, it will hunt gears constantly on a level road. Plastic bed was a turnoff.
Also on the gladiator, you can turn off that TV screen in the dash. And turn off the stop/start crap.
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