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Sitting (feet out, knees up) as demonstrated by J. O’conner above, with a hasty sling (no loop) has been the most useful field position for me. Add light, folding sticks or a sapling and it’s almost bench rest steady.
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Some of the positions noted in the photos above would work really well in a pasture of waist-high blue stem.
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Or timber with a bunch of blow-downs. It's not like you could use one of those logs for a rest or anything, that would be gauche.
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This thread - was to let you modern wonders off the hook.
Crutches, pictures, hurt feelings and all.
Soar, little ones.
GR It looks like you are the one whining. You won't take a hint or advice.. Keep doing you man, but don't expect great success..
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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The marksman uses all tools available to make the most precise shot as possible, be it a sling, a bipod, tripod, ruck, rock, sandbag, etc. Everything else is ego. Change my mind.
I have done many disciplines including traditional service rifle, which I was competitive at locally. But a man has to know his limitation and has to have good ethics. If I can use tools other than a sling to make sub-minute shots on game at 600, I will. I owe that to the animal. If I choose an sun-optimal method to boost my ego, I am acting unethically. Good post from the new guy.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Some of the positions noted in the photos above would work really well in a pasture of waist-high blue stem. or 4 foot sage and bitter brush. lol ill take a rifle on back pack on the ground, tree or fence post over kneeling any day.
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Some of the positions noted in the photos above would work really well in a pasture of waist-high blue stem. or 4 foot sage and bitter brush. lol Prezactly.
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Agree.......prone no worky here either..........
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Dammit, you shoot him when he stands up!! No wonder. Sheesh.
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Ironic, this just popped up on me: [video:youtube] https://youtube.com/shorts/GvrviN-TVaw?feature=share[/video] Mr. Spoomer, are you in here?
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The marksman uses all tools available to make the most precise shot as possible, be it a sling, a bipod, tripod, ruck, rock, sandbag, etc. Everything else is ego. Change my mind.
I have done many disciplines including traditional service rifle, which I was competitive at locally. But a man has to know his limitation and has to have good ethics. If I can use tools other than a sling to make sub-minute shots on game at 600, I will. I owe that to the animal. If I choose an sun-optimal method to boost my ego, I am acting unethically. Good post from the new guy. Thank you.
"Full time night woman? I never could find no tracks on a woman's heart. I packed me a squaw for ten year, Pilgrim. Cheyenne, she were, and the meanest bitch that ever balled for beads."
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I e shot more deer sitting on a seat using my supporting elbow on a knee than anything it seems. That and regular offhand when walking.
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It never failed to amaze me when a deer would be seen at a distance and the guys I used to hunt with would stand up on their hind legs and start throwing lead. Me, I was looking for a place to sit down. Guess who got the venison. Best education I ever got was from the Army Reserve shooting team when I used to shoot Highpower. Made me a lot better marksman/hunter.
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I competed in High Power matches for several years. I got pretty good at it ,but not in expert class. It made me a better shooter, but I still used every available means to get a steady rest when shooting animals.
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I competed in High Power matches for several years. I got pretty good at it ,but not in expert class. It made me a better shooter, but I still used every available means to get a steady rest when shooting animals. I was mediocre at best but like you, it sure improved my hunting.
I am continually astounded at how quickly people make up their minds on little evidence or none at all. Jack O'Connor
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Larry Root (up the pole) and garanimals, two guys who don't kill squat blathering about how if you don't do it their way, you aren't real men..
And Garanimals with this true gem:
"Snipers - start at Six-hundred yards.
Most hunting is done at less than Three.
Nothing wrong w/ using natural support if it's handy.
But bringing crutches, to replace shooting skills, is another thing"
This in spite of the fact he could not provide a single citation to back anything he claimed and in fact was shown real world examples of the fact he had no idea what he was talking about.
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Yeah, this guy was just a poser who didn't know chit about shooting either.
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Basic Field Position Rifle Marksmanship - Paul Harrell: Get off the bench, learn to shoot, and leave your bipod at home. GR
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Have shot most of my big game from sitting, with and without sticks, bipods etc. Know how to use a sling, have used one often, even taught folks how to use the sling as a shooting aid. A few critters from prone too, but as others have said, it's often too low to clear grass, brush, fallen trees, etc... Using a good rest from prone can really work great. Standing? You bet! Even then I've sometimes been able to use a rest. I'll use what I can to steady the shot and make the best shot I can. About 325 yards, 30-06 Rem 700, 6x Leupold, handloaded 165 grain Nosler Ballistic Tip @ 2900+ fps. No rest available, so I sat, with the "hasty sling" around my left arm, and popped him. One and done. Felt pretty good about that shot. I've done one heck of a lot of rifle shooting between the Marines, hunting, competition, law enforcement and just plain enjoying shooting. Wore out a few 308 barrels and that takes a bit of shooting to accomplish. If I can use a rest to make the shot, I will. Regards, Guy
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