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Onr of the reasons winchester said they did the Western on a 6.8 and not a 7mm is they wanted a round that had heaviest bullets and highest BC in a short action. The 7mm heaviest and most higher bc bullets would not get decent velocity nor fit in a short action mag. At least that was in a gunsandammo article. The 7PRC seems to prove this out as Hornady went with more case capacity and longer oal and looks wicked with 180s. Makes perfect sense to me and looks like good round. So we now have “modern” incarnations of 24, 26, 27, 30 cal. When do we get the 25;)
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That’s great stuff. Who’dve guessed a wicked high BC from a 7 Rem sorta capacity cartridge with a well thought out throat and twist would kick butt  Amazing, ain't it?
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I know can’t say anything about the new cartridge but was this testing with the new 700 model? Can share anything
there or off limits too?
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Everything tested last week--including rifles and scopes--is top-secret until October
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Case capacity anyone? Full of water preferably.
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Case capacity anyone? Full of water preferably. Reported to be 78 gr. H2O. GR
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Case capacity anyone? Full of water preferably. I've heard 78 grains Bill. Seems like a well designed rewrap of the 7 Rem Mag to me.
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Case capacity anyone? Full of water preferably. I've heard 78 grains Bill. Seems like a well designed rewrap of the 7 Rem Mag to me. The 7RM was reported at 82 gr. So a little more efficient. Make a great .277. GR
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This paragraph, quoted from the referenced article, is what has me on the fence . . . as I have a 7 SAUM on a Tikka T3. "7mm PRC vs 7mm SAUM Two very evenly matched cartridges, if you already have one, it would not be worth it to get the other as well. The 7mm PRC has a lower 30 degree shoulder angle, so it may feed from a magazine easier than the 7mm SAUM, and the 7mm PRC has very slightly more powder capacity so offering very slight muzzle velocity advantages, but hardly noticeable. With Hornady behind it, we should also see more available components and ammo for the 7mm PRC compared to the scarce 7mm SAUM. The 7mm PRC is basically the 7mm SAUM ballistic twin that get better factory support and marketing behind it." WiFowler: I'm not going to try to convince anyone that we "need" more new cartridges to fill some non-existent void in our shooting spectrum, the 30-06 pretty much covers anything we may need, it's done it all, but building new rifles and tweaking existing cartridges to make them just a little "better" is what entertains me and that's good enough for me.
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All of this really astounds me. Warren Page had a 7 mm Mashburn in 1952 that would drive a 175 gr bullet at 3000+ within 65K pressures. His did then and mine does now. I have 2, one has a 1:8 twist barrel on it. The other a standard 1:9.5. Either will shoot/kill about any kind of game up to about 1200 lbs to as far as I what to try the shot.
Reinventing the wheel I guess, just because you can.
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All of this really astounds me. Warren Page had a 7 mm Mashburn in 1952 that would drive a 175 gr bullet at 3000+ within 65K pressures. His did then and mine does now. I have 2, one has a 1:8 twist barrel on it. The other a standard 1:9.5. Either will shoot/kill about any kind of game up to about 1200 lbs to as far as I what to try the shot.
Reinventing the wheel I guess, just because you can. Ha. Go look up history on 285 okh. 7mm with long seated 180 western tool and copper…. Lou
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All of this really astounds me. Warren Page had a 7 mm Mashburn in 1952 that would drive a 175 gr bullet at 3000+ within 65K pressures. His did then and mine does now. I have 2, one has a 1:8 twist barrel on it. The other a standard 1:9.5. Either will shoot/kill about any kind of game up to about 1200 lbs to as far as I what to try the shot.
Reinventing the wheel I guess, just because you can. Yep - the 7 Mashburn is so much more practical because brass and loaded ammo is readily available from large makers, and can be purchased everywhere. Or not.
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Real men want at least a 40mm PRC. Minimum.
I am..........disturbed.
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All of this really astounds me. Warren Page had a 7 mm Mashburn in 1952 that would drive a 175 gr bullet at 3000+ within 65K pressures. His did then and mine does now. I have 2, one has a 1:8 twist barrel on it. The other a standard 1:9.5. Either will shoot/kill about any kind of game up to about 1200 lbs to as far as I what to try the shot.
Reinventing the wheel I guess, just because you can. Yep - the 7 Mashburn is so much more practical because brass and loaded ammo is readily available from large makers, and can be purchased everywhere. Or not. Right next to the rifles so chambered!
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So the rumor on the street is that Sig has a 7MM Fury on its way.
Its all right to be white!!
Stupidity left unattended will run rampant
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All of this really astounds me. Warren Page had a 7 mm Mashburn in 1952 that would drive a 175 gr bullet at 3000+ within 65K pressures. His did then and mine does now. I have 2, one has a 1:8 twist barrel on it. The other a standard 1:9.5. Either will shoot/kill about any kind of game up to about 1200 lbs to as far as I what to try the shot.
Reinventing the wheel I guess, just because you can. Yep - the 7 Mashburn is so much more practical because brass and loaded ammo is readily available from large makers, and can be purchased everywhere. Or not. Right next to the rifles so chambered! True that!
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But, the Mashburn is cool.. If you are a reloader, most are, then not a problem. I would guess a guy could barrel up a Mashburn at a reasonable cost. Plus, if it is what I want, what is the problem. The 285 was also cool, but it did not perform as well as the Mashburn. Plus Page used a 22" barrel.
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Nothing, but the 7 PRC will be the easy button to get you to about the same place.
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I've always been tight, must be getting old too.
Once, a press release and salesma....gun writer's😉 "article"
would have had me at least pining for one.
There are 2 7mags in the basement, one 300Win. Pretty sure
none have hunted since 2007. 243, 308, Swede, '06 have
done everything needed.
A 6.5 PRC could maybe find a home if it was light, used, and came
like the Swede did. Dies, brass, bullets.
Oh, most importantly. Cheap.
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