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I'm still questioning this build as I've seen way too many deer and antelope smashed with 55 grain BT's and Hornady SP's out of 223's and 22-250's to even contemplate that any heavier would kill any faster.
I guess I'm just feeding the loonie. It’s a good thing! Still a bigger killer than most suspect. One of our members is doing a Middlestead and planning to use 55 TTSX’s. I’m betting it’ll wallop deer real well.
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I’ve killed Whitetails, pigs and ‘yotes with 75gr Amaxes from a 22-250 at 3200. It was the proverbial lightning bolt. Having a 22GT barrel spun up. Will start with 88gr ELDs in that.
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I have a non AI Ruger 77 Mk 2 in 22.250...
I've taken down deer ( blacktails) with a 68 gr and/or 75 gr BTHP Hornady.
They worked just fine...the 80 grain A Max is also a damn good bullet for that kind of service..
Don't ask me why, but I think they are more accurate than the 75 grain A Max.
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I’ve killed Whitetails, pigs and ‘yotes with 75gr Amaxes from a 22-250 at 3200. It was the proverbial lightning bolt. Having a 22GT barrel spun up. Will start with 88gr ELDs in that.
John John, What twist did you go with on the .22 GT? I'm thinking 6.5T 5R 0.219"-bore for my next .223 that'll shoot 88s.
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I’ve killed Whitetails, pigs and ‘yotes with 75gr Amaxes from a 22-250 at 3200. It was the proverbial lightning bolt. Having a 22GT barrel spun up. Will start with 88gr ELDs in that.
John Should be a bad azzed rifle right there. I have a lot more respect for the .22 cal, since shooting it out past 600. Was shooting some 69gr SMK out of one of my new AR uppers just a little while ago and that thing is boringly accurate at 400 yards. I need to take my new Tikka 1 in 8 22-250 out more often. Waiting for the range to be extended to 1,000 yards here locally, then I'll start wearing out some barrels. Been shooting with some guys running 6GT's and those things are lightning bolts, if there ever was one. That 22GT probably in the same boat.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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I would use some 75 gr Gold Dots if you could find some.
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I’ve killed Whitetails, pigs and ‘yotes with 75gr Amaxes from a 22-250 at 3200. It was the proverbial lightning bolt. Having a 22GT barrel spun up. Will start with 88gr ELDs in that.
John John, What twist did you go with on the .22 GT? I'm thinking 6.5T 5R 0.219"-bore for my next .223 that'll shoot 88s. Went with a 7” twist .219 bore. Couldn’t find a Bartlein, Krieger, or Brux anywhere so went with an Osprey Barrel Works from Patriot Valley. Pretty new, but seem to be establishing a good reputation. I have read so much about the 88gr ELDs grenading in flight that I considered a slower twist but then you have marginal stabilization. I’m going 20” barrel to make things a little handier with a can, so should be looking at 3000 to 3100 fps. Hopefully the RPMs will be low enough to let things hold together. John
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I’ve killed Whitetails, pigs and ‘yotes with 75gr Amaxes from a 22-250 at 3200. It was the proverbial lightning bolt. Having a 22GT barrel spun up. Will start with 88gr ELDs in that.
John Should be a bad azzed rifle right there. I have a lot more respect for the .22 cal, since shooting it out past 600. Was shooting some 69gr SMK out of one of my new AR uppers just a little while ago and that thing is boringly accurate at 400 yards. I need to take my new Tikka 1 in 8 22-250 out more often. Waiting for the range to be extended to 1,000 yards here locally, then I'll start wearing out some barrels. Been shooting with some guys running 6GT's and those things are lightning bolts, if there ever was one. That 22GT probably in the same boat. Considered the .22 Creedmoor but barrel life is reported to be pretty short. Sounds like guys are getting a little more life out of the .22GT without much loss in performance. My best load in my 8” twist 22-250 Criterion barrel was R15 pushing 75gr Amaxes to 3200. The numbers said my 6.5x47 should have been better in the wind, but if it was, I couldn’t tell it. With that 22-250, I shot more than one 3” five shot group at 700 yards. I think that was the easiest rifle to hit with I have ever shot. John
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I have read so much about the 88gr ELDs grenading in flight that I considered a slower twist but then you have marginal stabilization. I’m going 20” barrel to make things a little handier with a can, so should be looking at 3000 to 3100 fps. Hopefully the RPMs will be low enough to let things hold together.
John From what I’ve seen, going to a 0.219” bore seems to solve that issue for most folks.
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I’ve killed Whitetails, pigs and ‘yotes with 75gr Amaxes from a 22-250 at 3200. It was the proverbial lightning bolt. Having a 22GT barrel spun up. Will start with 88gr ELDs in that.
John Should be a bad azzed rifle right there. I have a lot more respect for the .22 cal, since shooting it out past 600. Was shooting some 69gr SMK out of one of my new AR uppers just a little while ago and that thing is boringly accurate at 400 yards. I need to take my new Tikka 1 in 8 22-250 out more often. Waiting for the range to be extended to 1,000 yards here locally, then I'll start wearing out some barrels. Been shooting with some guys running 6GT's and those things are lightning bolts, if there ever was one. That 22GT probably in the same boat. Considered the .22 Creedmoor but barrel life is reported to be pretty short. Sounds like guys are getting a little more life out of the .22GT without much loss in performance. My best load in my 8” twist 22-250 Criterion barrel was R15 pushing 75gr Amaxes to 3200. The numbers said my 6.5x47 should have been better in the wind, but if it was, I couldn’t tell it. With that 22-250, I shot more than one 3” five shot group at 700 yards. I think that was the easiest rifle to hit with I have ever shot. John I believe it man. I've seen the same crap with my creedmoor vs my 22-250 at 600 yards. Hard to explain why the 22 cals shoot like that. Good choice on the gt. I look forward to hearing more about it.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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I killed lots of stuff near and far with that cartridge and an 80 grain Berger VLD. Worked well.
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Thanks for all the suggestions. I have some of most of the bullets suggested and my barrel is supposed to be done pretty soon. Thanks to many on here for bullets to test. If I shoot all of these it will be time for a new Lilja ![[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]](https://i.postimg.cc/c4hVJKjV/20220831_135509.jpg)
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I’ve had the same barrel ordered a few months and hope it is finished soon too. Mine will be kid brother though and chambered for 223. The 75 amax has done great for us in 223 223AI and 22-250AI. I’ll use it since we have so many but I will still try the 88’s. Especially with the bigger 22 chamberings. I look forward to your report.
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... If I shoot all of these it will be time for a new Lilja ... The truth is there are many good choices that will work, which is great! To add one more to your picture, mine would be the 77gr TMK Sierra.
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Thanks for all the suggestions. I have some of most of the bullets suggested and my barrel is supposed to be done pretty soon. Thanks to many on here for bullets to test. If I shoot all of these it will be time for a new Lilja Those Berger hybrids look like good bullets. I'm curious to see how your rifle shoots when you get it. Keep us posted..
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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If the 75 gr Swift will shoot in your gun , that is the one I would go with If they behave like the .243,.257,.277, and .284 Scorocco's I'd be all in. Fingers crossed. That would be my first choice as well.
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I’ve killed several critters, whitetail, Muleys, Blacktail, antelope and finished a shot to fuuck coues buck with 75 eld’s in my 22 cm, worked well. 😎 great combo speed/bc. 👊🏻
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