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These aren't people growing a few plants in the basement, they're organizations that buy multiple houses to set up illegal grows.

[quote=flintlocke]Seafire, it's hard to say which is worse, Josephine Co old time 4th generation growers or Siskiyou County's Hmong farmers. We had over 6,000 Cambodians move in here in less than 2 years, using cartel cash they bought up every parcel and rural home. 1/8 of the county population is now Hmong. Trying to get some control over this wild west boom town chaos has bankrupted our county's law enforcement and public health. The system is completely overwhelmed. So far, they are just murdering each other and leaving the locals alone, but they flout every law, from poaching to pedophilia. Because of Calif laws, every single legal action requires the Hmong to have an interpreter at county expense, and of course every legal action has blowback from Hmong activists screaming racism, which involves a whole new court case and appeals. It's a trainwreck. The way I see it, only way out is for big corporate agriculture to get involved and grow so much, so cheaply, that it destroys the market.[/

The Hmongs are bad news in all those ways you mentioned. I’ve hunted several times in the Trinity Alps area. The first few times there were deer and bear in decent numbers. The last time I went up the same areas looked devastated. The Hmongs had gone through with large hunting parties and taken everything. I didn’t even see any squirrels.

Hippie lettuce has been around for a long time and isn’t going away. The big illegal grows make a hell of a mess. When I lived in California one year we got warnings about staying away from certain places in the Mendecino forest. We still hunted there. There should be an open season on the scumbags if you find them in public land. SSS

Hmongs are a plague in the states they reside. They go through and kill everything. Deer, birds, squirrels, chipmunks, etc.

ITEOTWAWKI

I concur.

Seattle is 90% liberal. The conservatives are really conservative.

My high school classmate Earl, his two older brothers moved to the Medford, Oregon area and grew pot. Earl said the cops there were ok with the activity, they

Dknew they were doing it.

Make it 100% legal, no license, no nothing, > NO WAY the gov't can't stand not getting tax dollars to put towards their benefits/pensions.

Do the growers Josephine & Jackson counties cause outdoorsmen problems?
I saw on the news years ago people in Or. or Ca. said growers would shoot over hikers/bikers/hunters heads to run them off?

It's the end of the world as we know it,,, and I feel fine.

Seattle was a shyt hole when I was there 35 years ago. People of all ages from teens to grannies snorting coke everywhere you went. I doubt it has improved. Don't know if I met any consevatives while I was there. If I did like everywhere else they were more likely drunks than stoners.

If you think it was a [bleep] hole in the 80s, go visit now. Youd REALLY be impressed.

Pot grows, so much fun.

The Hmongs have been doing that in the Sierra for over 40 years. I started hunting in the southern and central Sierra in 1964. Deer and other game all over the place. Then the Hmong were transplanted in after the end of the Vietnam War, settling in the central San Joaquin Valley and into the foothills of the western Sierra. They began systematically hunting in large organized groups killing anything that moved. Deer, bears, mountain lions, small game of all kinds, birds of all kinds, etc. If it moved, they shot it. There would be 25 or 30 of them up in the mountains moving in "skirmish" lines, blazing away. Poaching was rampant.

My wife and I owned a vacation cabin on the western slope of the southern Sierra in Tulare County, from 1969 until we moved to Idaho in 1997. For years we saw many deer, bears, foxes, bobcats, an occasional mountain lion, and game birds. Then, we'd see not so many, then less and less until the last time I hunted up there in 1997, there was no game animals to be seen anywhere. The Hmong had, with their poaching and "skirmish line" hunting, virtually wiped them out.

I doubt it has improved.

FWIW.

L.W.

If you can't beat them, join tax them.

God damn the pusher man.

When Clinton opened trade with Vietnam, an American kookie woman went over there, bought a motorcycle and was touring and video'ing the country.
She went out for a day with the village women who rounded up firewood, killed birds/lizards/frogs/snakes anything/everything. She commented that there wasn't a single sound in the woods, everything had been killed.
They traveled over 20 miles that day and the American woman didn't see a single living thing besides plants/trees.

I remember the POS trespasser h-mong who killed the people in Minnesota or Wisconsin. Sitting his ass in their treestand he then shoots and kills them, one a young girl.
They nearly wiped out seagulls and other birds, sea turtles along the Mississippi coast, they don't give a ratzass about game laws/rules.

Nobody has been shot yet here in the Green Triangle that wasn't involved in the trade. When the Mex Cartels were growing here on Forest Service land, they were considered dangerous only because their families were hostage in Mexico, and if they didn't get their crop harvested, God knows how they would be punished...so everyone gave them a wide berth. Then came the white criminal element, not to be confused with the old skool hippie growers (we didn't know they were the best of a bad bunch to come later). The white criminal element are financed well, but the scum of the earth, lots of meth and heroin users and unpredictable, hence dangerous to cross. Then the Hmong which don't bother anybody, but have semi military style security, sentries, motion detectors etc. around their private property grows. To my knowledge, my son is a forester in affected areas, is the Hmong give you the hard eye and have fired warning shots. They have killed each other over mushroom territory, no one ever caught. Edible mushrooms can pay up to 30 bucks a pound here at the buyers tailgate. So most hunters and fishermen generally, if they smell the 'skunk' or stumble on a grow just go someplace else, no game around the camps anyway. Game wardens and Forest Service LEO's here will not confront growers.

After legalization here, everyone thought they'd make a fortune.
A couple years in now and the radio says prices are 25% of what they were.
Had a guy in our township quit seeking permits, etc. for now saying the market is shot due to everyone jumping in.

Thanks flintlocke ! !

Some lads I knew in Florida knew some black folk and whiggers who moved to Oregon to grow and sell weed.
They lived in NW Oregon, rented a Mansion w/a Pacific Ocean view. 12-14 years ago.

They were making big money back then, rolling around like tony montan'E, phly-ass clothes, $1000 tennee-shoes, gangsta as fk, 26'' wheels. Great neighbors I'm sure.