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Second amendment and Texas in the same sentence.... "Laws That Relate to Carrying a Handgun FAQs 1. I have applied for an LTC. When can I begin carrying my handgun? You can begin carrying your handgun upon receipt of the physical license. 2. My LTC has expired, and my renewal application is in process. Can I carry a handgun while I am waiting to receive my new license? No. There is no grace period or extension for an expired LTC, even if your renewal application has been submitted. You must wait until you receive the LTC before you are allowed to carry a handgun." link of the quoted text...from TexasBastion of liberty, freedom, and the 2nd... /sarc SArcasm it up your azz. https://www.dps.texas.gov/section/training-operations-tod/firearm-carry-actFirearm Carry Act Firearm Carry Act of 2021 Updated 09/01/2021 House Bill 1927, enacted as the Firearm Carry Act of 2021, allows individuals who are 21 years of age or older and who can legally possess a firearm to carry a handgun without first obtaining a license. Full language regarding this legislation can be located at 87(R) HB 1927 - Enrolled version (texas.gov). The Firearm Carry Act takes effect September 1, 2021. Ummm...congrats? Only took until 2021...read your fellow Texan's post above, it is pretty good YMMV Regards Like I said when you grow up you can lick the sweat off a Texans balls. Why is it hard for you to admit that Texas' history re 2nd isn't the greatest? But do carry on w the childish retorts. Regards TX is the only State in the Union that makes it a Felony to carry into a bar. Not carry and consume, just carry. Well then don't bring your gun into the bar. The number of weapons known to be outside in the parking lots seems to have a decided effect on violence in White neighborhoods. It is bad enough when our elected officials infringe on our basic rights by banning firearms possession in government buildings, but banning personal carry on private property and inside a private business is beyond the pale and unconstitutional, and to deem personal carry on private property is unconscionable to say the least.
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I’ve mentioned this before and I’ll mention it again. When I was a kid handguns were like taboo!!! If you had one you was either an LEO or an outlaw. Rifles and shotguns were everywhere. No issues with them. Remember I had an uncle that got caught with some kind of .38 waaaay back in the day by a state trooper. Was in his car. Thought he was going to Huntsville. Worked for an old rancher from Snyder Tx. Said he had an uncle showed up after several yesrs of cowboying up in the panhandle. Had an old Colt model P in his possession. All were convinced he was a bank robber. All of my old relative and acquaintances stress to us growing up that “you ain’t got no damn business with that thing! You’ll end up in the pen!"
All this started as a result of post civil war reconstruction law in 1870. Temperance, bible belt stuff didn’t help anything either. Throw in prohibition. Then there was the LEO concept by a few back in the day that you had no business with a handgun and they did. Anyone acting otherwise was worthy of a good whoppin. This has always been a wild place. Still is someplaces. Thankful that things have changed. I don’t head no where, especially town these days, without something! True! My granddaddy was that way. He found out I'd bought a S&W M15, and asked me "What do you want a pistol for? You gonna rob the bank, or something?"  I had to go pick up some parts at my tractor dealer yesterday and got on my way, and realized I'd left my 1911 in my tractor! Felt naked!  Good thing I had an AR15 with me... That’s the main reason I always carry a spare handgun in the console of my pickup. Usually a Glock 32 in .357 Sig caliber. Lately, it’s been my cheap Tisa Turkish mfg 1911. And of course, there’s always a AR-15 in the truck too.
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I remember when I was 16 I ended up with a Colt New Service 1917 and 4 boxes of Remington Red box .45 auto rim. $45 total!!! Geeeeezus palomino! You’d thought I kidnapped and murdered the Lindbergh baby!!! Shamed so bad I traded it for a Remington 572 pump 22. Then all was well.
Thats just the way it was
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I’ve mentioned this before and I’ll mention it again. When I was a kid handguns were like taboo!!! If you had one you was either an LEO or an outlaw. Rifles and shotguns were everywhere. No issues with them. Remember I had an uncle that got caught with some kind of .38 waaaay back in the day by a state trooper. Was in his car. Thought he was going to Huntsville. Worked for an old rancher from Snyder Tx. Said he had an uncle showed up after several yesrs of cowboying up in the panhandle. Had an old Colt model P in his possession. All were convinced he was a bank robber. All of my old relative and acquaintances stress to us growing up that “you ain’t got no damn business with that thing! You’ll end up in the pen!"
All this started as a result of post civil war reconstruction law in 1870. Temperance, bible belt stuff didn’t help anything either. Throw in prohibition. Then there was the LEO concept by a few back in the day that you had no business with a handgun and they did. Anyone acting otherwise was worthy of a good whoppin. This has always been a wild place. Still is someplaces. Thankful that things have changed. I don’t head no where, especially town these days, without something! True! My granddaddy was that way. He found out I'd bought a S&W M15, and asked me "What do you want a pistol for? You gonna rob the bank, or something?" I had to go pick up some parts at my tractor dealer yesterday and got on my way, and realized I'd left my 1911 in my tractor! Felt naked! Good thing I had an AR15 with me... Hickok45 mentions this from time to time, i.e., that attitude about handguns being common in his youth back in the 1950s and '60s.
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Well not sure if I agree, private business and private property are owned by a private citizen and said owner just might not want just anybody carrying a gun into his bar knowing that people are going to be high or drunk or both. I think the decision should be up to the property owner. That said if he says it's OK and someone gets shot then is he going to face a lawsuit?
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Second amendment and Texas in the same sentence.... "Laws That Relate to Carrying a Handgun FAQs 1. I have applied for an LTC. When can I begin carrying my handgun? You can begin carrying your handgun upon receipt of the physical license. 2. My LTC has expired, and my renewal application is in process. Can I carry a handgun while I am waiting to receive my new license? No. There is no grace period or extension for an expired LTC, even if your renewal application has been submitted. You must wait until you receive the LTC before you are allowed to carry a handgun." link of the quoted text...from TexasBastion of liberty, freedom, and the 2nd... /sarc SArcasm it up your azz. https://www.dps.texas.gov/section/training-operations-tod/firearm-carry-actFirearm Carry Act Firearm Carry Act of 2021 Updated 09/01/2021 House Bill 1927, enacted as the Firearm Carry Act of 2021, allows individuals who are 21 years of age or older and who can legally possess a firearm to carry a handgun without first obtaining a license. Full language regarding this legislation can be located at 87(R) HB 1927 - Enrolled version (texas.gov). The Firearm Carry Act takes effect September 1, 2021. Ummm...congrats? Only took until 2021...read your fellow Texan's post above, it is pretty good YMMV Regards Like I said when you grow up you can lick the sweat off a Texans balls. And that's enough sweat to drown a duck given that it's 115* in the shade for 8 months of the year in that shyt hole. Well I ain't saying it hasn't been hot but it was only over 100 some 80 days in a row south of Fort Worth this year. But still plenty of sweat. The bars are air conditioned and the women dress lightly for a plus. LOL ! I was only messin with ya man. Having lived in the North my whole life there's simply no way I could tolerate that heat though. Well I admit life was easier in Wyoming, like the cold more than the heat. Doesn't matter though, making my stand in Texas.
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Well not sure if I agree, private business and private property are owned by a private citizen and said owner just might not want just anybody carrying a gun into his bar knowing that people are going to be high or drunk or both. I think the decision should be up to the property owner. That said if he says it's OK and someone gets shot then is he going to face a lawsuit? I think he was referring to the gov mandating to the private property owner. Private property owners may do as yhey wish. Ymmv
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Well not sure if I agree, private business and private property are owned by a private citizen and said owner just might not want just anybody carrying a gun into his bar knowing that people are going to be high or drunk or both. I think the decision should be up to the property owner. That said if he says it's OK and someone gets shot then is he going to face a lawsuit? In TN, if a business does not post against carry, they are immune from prosecution resulting from a self defense shooting. All lies on the person pulling the trigger. As LE is NEVER responsible for the production of safety for any individual, we are moving closer to reality in TN, is taking a while though.
To preserve liberty it is essential that the whole body of people always possess arms and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them.-Richard Henry Lee
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Second amendment and Texas in the same sentence.... "Laws That Relate to Carrying a Handgun FAQs 1. I have applied for an LTC. When can I begin carrying my handgun? You can begin carrying your handgun upon receipt of the physical license. 2. My LTC has expired, and my renewal application is in process. Can I carry a handgun while I am waiting to receive my new license? No. There is no grace period or extension for an expired LTC, even if your renewal application has been submitted. You must wait until you receive the LTC before you are allowed to carry a handgun." link of the quoted text...from TexasBastion of liberty, freedom, and the 2nd... /sarc SArcasm it up your azz. https://www.dps.texas.gov/section/training-operations-tod/firearm-carry-actFirearm Carry Act Firearm Carry Act of 2021 Updated 09/01/2021 House Bill 1927, enacted as the Firearm Carry Act of 2021, allows individuals who are 21 years of age or older and who can legally possess a firearm to carry a handgun without first obtaining a license. Full language regarding this legislation can be located at 87(R) HB 1927 - Enrolled version (texas.gov). The Firearm Carry Act takes effect September 1, 2021. Ummm...congrats? Only took until 2021...read your fellow Texan's post above, it is pretty good YMMV Regards Like I said when you grow up you can lick the sweat off a Texans balls. Now now. You're starting to sound nationalist.. and Trumpish.. 
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Everyone in my family when i was a kid had a pistol of some kind, my mother had a H&R 32 revolver, my Grandmother had a S&W 38, My Grandfather carried a 45 lc 1873 every day i don't remember ever seeing him with out it. there wasn't any law against open carry, I didn't get my first hand gun till I was about 15-16 yrs old, used Hi-Standard .22 9 shot.no one ever accused us of being Bank robbers or outlaws, Everyone we knew had a rifle or shotgun or a pistol, and carried a belt knife, it was not unusual to see someone on the street in town carrying a long gun or wearing a hand gun. very little crime back then. Rio7
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I’ve mentioned this before and I’ll mention it again. When I was a kid handguns were like taboo!!! If you had one you was either an LEO or an outlaw. Rifles and shotguns were everywhere. No issues with them. Remember I had an uncle that got caught with some kind of .38 waaaay back in the day by a state trooper. Was in his car. Thought he was going to Huntsville. Worked for an old rancher from Snyder Tx. Said he had an uncle showed up after several yesrs of cowboying up in the panhandle. Had an old Colt model P in his possession. All were convinced he was a bank robber. All of my old relative and acquaintances stress to us growing up that “you ain’t got no damn business with that thing! You’ll end up in the pen!"
All this started as a result of post civil war reconstruction law in 1870. Temperance, bible belt stuff didn’t help anything either. Throw in prohibition. Then there was the LEO concept by a few back in the day that you had no business with a handgun and they did. Anyone acting otherwise was worthy of a good whoppin. This has always been a wild place. Still is someplaces. Thankful that things have changed. I don’t head no where, especially town these days, without something! Fact. Handguns were considered unworthy of anything but shooting someone in the belly. Kinda true, considering everyone had a long gun all the time.
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Second amendment and Texas in the same sentence.... "Laws That Relate to Carrying a Handgun FAQs 1. I have applied for an LTC. When can I begin carrying my handgun? You can begin carrying your handgun upon receipt of the physical license. 2. My LTC has expired, and my renewal application is in process. Can I carry a handgun while I am waiting to receive my new license? No. There is no grace period or extension for an expired LTC, even if your renewal application has been submitted. You must wait until you receive the LTC before you are allowed to carry a handgun." link of the quoted text...from TexasBastion of liberty, freedom, and the 2nd... /sarc SArcasm it up your azz. https://www.dps.texas.gov/section/training-operations-tod/firearm-carry-actFirearm Carry Act Firearm Carry Act of 2021 Updated 09/01/2021 House Bill 1927, enacted as the Firearm Carry Act of 2021, allows individuals who are 21 years of age or older and who can legally possess a firearm to carry a handgun without first obtaining a license. Full language regarding this legislation can be located at 87(R) HB 1927 - Enrolled version (texas.gov). The Firearm Carry Act takes effect September 1, 2021. Ummm...congrats? Only took until 2021...read your fellow Texan's post above, it is pretty good YMMV Regards Like I said when you grow up you can lick the sweat off a Texans balls. Why is it hard for you to admit that Texas' history re 2nd isn't the greatest? But do carry on w the childish retorts. Regards TX is the only State in the Union that makes it a Felony to carry into a bar. Not carry and consume, just carry. Do think that stops anyone.
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Yes. An age and sex discrimination case had Ruth Bader Ginsburg in front of the supreme court as a young attorney. Seems girls could buy booze at 18 and males had to be 20 or 21. That was just not fair.
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I remember when I was 16 I ended up with a Colt New Service 1917 and 4 boxes of Remington Red box .45 auto rim. $45 total!!! Geeeeezus palomino! You’d thought I kidnapped and murdered the Lindbergh baby!!! Shamed so bad I traded it for a Remington 572 pump 22. Then all was well.
Thats just the way it was I spent my childhood in England, teenage years in NY State, going on forty years in Texas. The prevalent gun laws become the societal norm. Even my otherwise conservative relatives and friends in England think American gun laws are absolutely bonkers. In NY State the Cops would arrest me in possession of a handgun today with the same sense of righteousness as they would arrest someone with a kilo of cocaine in the trunk. The aversion to handguns in Texas musta faded by the 80’s, at least among the motorcycle friends I hung out with, former oilfield roughnecks and the like. Handguns were as common as toaster ovens. I likewise armed myself soon as I became an official Texas resident.
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I remember when I was 16 I ended up with a Colt New Service 1917 and 4 boxes of Remington Red box .45 auto rim. $45 total!!! Geeeeezus palomino! You’d thought I kidnapped and murdered the Lindbergh baby!!! Shamed so bad I traded it for a Remington 572 pump 22. Then all was well.
Thats just the way it was I spent my childhood in England, teenage years in NY State, going on forty years in Texas. The prevalent gun laws become the societal norm. Even my otherwise conservative relatives and friends in England think American gun laws are absolutely bonkers. In NY State the Cops would arrest me in possession of a handgun today with the same sense of righteousness as they would arrest someone with a kilo of cocaine in the trunk. The aversion to handguns in Texas musta faded by the 80’s, at least among the motorcycle friends I hung out with, former oilfield roughnecks and the like. Handguns were as common as toaster ovens. I likewise armed myself soon as I became an official Texas resident. Yep. In the entire state of New York, handguns are contraband on par with a kilo of coke, absent a state Permit. In NYC, you need a NYC permit, which they only give to folks with pull, celebrities, high government officials, billionaires and the like. Bruen was supposed to force them to change all that, but so far they've doubled down.
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I went to High School in Oak Cliff, Dallas's west side. In my world handguns were very common. They sold actual Saturday nite specials under the counters at pool halls, many convenience stores. Heck 7-11 stores sold ammo. 22 shells, 32 special and 38 special for sure. We used to go down in the Trinity river bottoms and blast away with anything we wanted taking care where our bullets ended up, no one cared. This was back in the early seventies.
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I’ve mentioned this before and I’ll mention it again. When I was a kid handguns were like taboo!!! If you had one you was either an LEO or an outlaw. Rifles and shotguns were everywhere. No issues with them. Remember I had an uncle that got caught with some kind of .38 waaaay back in the day by a state trooper. Was in his car. Thought he was going to Huntsville. Worked for an old rancher from Snyder Tx. Said he had an uncle showed up after several yesrs of cowboying up in the panhandle. Had an old Colt model P in his possession. All were convinced he was a bank robber. All of my old relative and acquaintances stress to us growing up that “you ain’t got no damn business with that thing! You’ll end up in the pen!"
All this started as a result of post civil war reconstruction law in 1870. Temperance, bible belt stuff didn’t help anything either. Throw in prohibition. Then there was the LEO concept by a few back in the day that you had no business with a handgun and they did. Anyone acting otherwise was worthy of a good whoppin. This has always been a wild place. Still is someplaces. Thankful that things have changed. I don’t head no where, especially town these days, without something! Fact. Handguns were considered unworthy of anything but shooting someone in the belly. Kinda true, considering everyone had a long gun all the time. That’s pretty much what I heard growing up. Only good for one thing and thats why I didn’t need one! 😁 Things have changed a bit now. 😉
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"Come, shall we go and kill us venison?
And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools,
Being native burghers of this desert city,
Should in their own confines with forked heads
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Second amendment and Texas in the same sentence.... "Laws That Relate to Carrying a Handgun FAQs 1. I have applied for an LTC. When can I begin carrying my handgun? You can begin carrying your handgun upon receipt of the physical license. 2. My LTC has expired, and my renewal application is in process. Can I carry a handgun while I am waiting to receive my new license? No. There is no grace period or extension for an expired LTC, even if your renewal application has been submitted. You must wait until you receive the LTC before you are allowed to carry a handgun." link of the quoted text...from TexasBastion of liberty, freedom, and the 2nd... /sarc SArcasm it up your azz. https://www.dps.texas.gov/section/training-operations-tod/firearm-carry-actFirearm Carry Act Firearm Carry Act of 2021 Updated 09/01/2021 House Bill 1927, enacted as the Firearm Carry Act of 2021, allows individuals who are 21 years of age or older and who can legally possess a firearm to carry a handgun without first obtaining a license. Full language regarding this legislation can be located at 87(R) HB 1927 - Enrolled version (texas.gov). The Firearm Carry Act takes effect September 1, 2021. Ummm...congrats? Only took until 2021...read your fellow Texan's post above, it is pretty good YMMV Regards Like I said when you grow up you can lick the sweat off a Texans balls. Why is it hard for you to admit that Texas' history re 2nd isn't the greatest? But do carry on w the childish retorts. Regards TX is the only State in the Union that makes it a Felony to carry into a bar. Not carry and consume, just carry. Do think that stops anyone. Evidently it makes queers think twice.
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I was waiting on these two "friends" a long time back at the shop. And one asked to see on of those little Stainless steel Bauer 25 autos with the fake plastic mother of pearl grips. Remember them? LOL. So they are both looking at it and one says in a feminine voice "I think I’m going to buy this!" Other well dressed a dapper looking chap says " oh my! Really??? What on earth for???" To which the other answers, "You know why!!! And if that brute ever accosts me again, I’m going to shoot him right in the balls!!!"
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