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Curious to know what ammo law enforcement agencies are issuing or advising for short barreled 9mm semi-auto handguns.

Now, in 2022.


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Everything is going heavy for caliber and subsonic in bullets designed to open at subsonic speeds.

As far as I know.


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I believe the 147 grain V Crowns are what I saw most of the LEO guys buying up at the pistol course I attended in Epping. That's also what I carry in my P365. I load my own when I can get them. I keep them loaded in my wife's Shield 2.0 as well.

Full sized is probably the V Crown 124s ... they make a +P version as well.

I gotta say I've been getting some incredible results with some 124 RMR Nukes I loaded ... very similar, if not equal-to, the V Crowns.

I don't think you can go wrong with the 147 or 135 HydraShoks either. They perform well in the 950-1050 range.


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124 gr HST for me in the Shield and EMP.

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Originally Posted by tjm10025
Curious to know what ammo law enforcement agencies are issuing or advising for short barreled 9mm semi-auto handguns.

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I do not know what police use, but you want ammo with bullets designed to open up at lower velocities. One example would be Speer short barrel ammo.

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124 gr HST for me in the Shield and EMP.

Yeah .... those are great actually, when you can find them. Haven't had a chance to gel test them personally but have seen some videos. They're sure proud of those things. Pricey.


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124 gr HST for me in the Shield and EMP.

Yeah .... those are great actually, when you can find them. Haven't had a chance to gel test them personally but have seen some videos. They're sure proud of those things. Pricey.
Target USA had them $19.99/box of 50 3-4 years ago. I should have bought more.

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Originally Posted by SCRooster
I believe the 147 grain V Crowns are what I saw most of the LEO guys buying up at the pistol course I attended in Epping. That's also what I carry in my P365. I load my own when I can get them. I keep them loaded in my wife's Shield 2.0 as well.

Full sized is probably the V Crown 124s ... they make a +P version as well.

Interesting that the heavier bullets would perform well in the shorter barrels. It seems somehow counterintuitive to me.

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Originally Posted by deflave
Everything is going heavy for caliber and subsonic in bullets designed to open at subsonic speeds.

As far as I know.

Sounds sort like a .38 Special


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Originally Posted by tjm10025
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I believe the 147 grain V Crowns are what I saw most of the LEO guys buying up at the pistol course I attended in Epping. That's also what I carry in my P365. I load my own when I can get them. I keep them loaded in my wife's Shield 2.0 as well.

Full sized is probably the V Crown 124s ... they make a +P version as well.

Interesting that the heavier bullets would perform well in the shorter barrels. It seems somehow counterintuitive to me.

From what I recall starting out with lower velocity means less velocity lost per shorter barrel length. For example .357 looses more velocity then .38 Special when one reduces barrel length. I suppose this means with heavier subsonic projectile slight velocity loss will not reduce bullet expansion.

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Originally Posted by tjm10025
Curious to know what ammo law enforcement agencies are issuing or advising for short barreled 9mm semi-auto handguns.

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Hornady critical duty was the last FBI contract I heard.

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Originally Posted by MarkWV
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124 gr HST for me in the Shield and EMP.

Yeah .... those are great actually, when you can find them. Haven't had a chance to gel test them personally but have seen some videos. They're sure proud of those things. Pricey.
Target USA had them $19.99/box of 50 3-4 years ago. I should have bought more.


Same here, except I purchased about 700 rounds of the +P version........is a snappy round out of the Sig P365.


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