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By now anyone with any common sense knows COVID was just another flu strain. There's no telling the damage the so called vaccine - flu shot has done to the human immune system. My fear is the government used the vaccine to build a super flu. I'm not sure if the sheep or the wolves will be come on top.


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Got the jab
And two boosters, last one six months or so ago
Jabs were at my long term doc and hunting partners advice
Zero side effects from the jabs was zero, not even a sore shoulder
Tested positive for covid two months ago, symptoms were non existent
Did shots reduce severity, I have no idea
I have three cousins (55/65 age range) dead while having covid, two were anti vaxers
One of these three had other health issues, the other two, the anti vaxers, did not have other health issues
Would the anti vaxer be alive if they’d have taken the jab, who knows


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Should be leaving for a sheep hunt with my friends in NWT. Due to Canada's vax policy, I dropped out. My friends were all anti vax till the ability to travel hurt them. They took the shots.

I respect their choice and they respect mine. I will miss being with them and hope they have a great hunt. There are a few sheep in Alaska if I want one bad enough.

Another buddy took the jab cuz he didn't want to miss his Mexico trip. I respect peoples ability to choose. I am also surprised how little pressure or sacrifice it takes for some to cave in and compromise their values.

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Originally Posted by dale06
Got the jab
And two boosters, last one six months or so ago
Jabs were at my long term doc and hunting partners advice
Zero side effects from the jabs was zero, not even a sore shoulder
Tested positive for covid two months ago, symptoms were non existent
Did shots reduce severity, I have no idea
I have three cousins (55/65 age range) dead while having covid, two were anti vaxers
One of these three had other health issues, the other two, the anti vaxers, did not have other health issues
Would the anti vaxer be alive if they’d have taken the jab, who knows


People who take the jab are becoming more likely to catch the virus. You have no idea yet about any side effects



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And I suppose quite possibly had my late wife taken the Ivermectin as I did she would be alive today. But she refused it.

Would have
Could have
Should have

Regardless, I doubt any shot, vaccine, or snake oil would have helped her in her preexisting condition. She was a very sick person.

But what do I know???

My condolences, and I can truly sympathize. My wife of 18 years passed away last December. Massive heart attack. We both thought she was dead in 2015 from stage IV cancer. Instead, she had the surgery, told them to stuff their chemo halfway through, and lived another 6.5 years. Those years were a blessing I'll always be very grateful for. The cardiac arrest was caused by blood clots in her lungs, they said, maybe caused by the cancer. Or maybe--which they didn't say--caused by the 4 rounds of chemo she underwent. Maybe both.

She, too, was tired of it all, especially the "health care system." She quit going for scans and checkups after they refused to remove the chemo port. Their "treatment" made her sicker than the cancer did, and she always kept that in mind. That and the bowls of candy at the infusion center. Anyone who has studied cancer even a little understands what a disgusting irony that is.

It's an industry. There's no incentive to cure anyone or to prevent any illness, only to maximize profits by milking insurance companies--and failing that your personal resources--for everything they can get. The "vaccine" is no different, is in fact the greatest corporate profit generator--at taxpayer expense--in history. And the narrative behind the push has always been and still remains way too frantic, shrill, and scripted to be anything other than fear-porn propaganda with an insidious agenda behind it. What the actual agenda really is remains to be seen. What we can safely say, what is glaringly obvious in fact, is that the agenda is evil, and has nothing to do with the health and well being of American citizens.

Here it is, August. Of 2022. I remain un-jabbed and healthy. So not only no, but f u c k no!

I never did fear what some talking head told me to fear and ain't about to start now.

The only bandwagon I'm willing to jump on is Nuremburg 2.0.

Well said Shaun... sorry for your loss


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In the US army, they didn't "ask'. laugh

Didn't ask in the Navy either.


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I know it's a tough pill for many of you to swallow, but this thread and the entire COVID affair, is a perfect example of just how GD dumb and gullible most people are.

Yes, there are bad people in every walk of life that genuinely promote the ideals of communism, socialism, etc. But the vast majority of human beings today are just flat fugking stupid, and flat fugking gullible. It's safe to assume that most everybody today has at least an 8th grade education and it is taught that you cannot vaccinate a virus like COVID. This is proven science going back 100 years. It was taught to all of us at some point in our lives.

There are only two classes of people alive today. Americans, and fugking idiots.


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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
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Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Originally Posted by Redneck
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In the US army, they didn't "ask'. laugh

Didn't ask in the Navy either.

They also don't ask now in case you two geniuses didn't figure that out.

But the difference between the vaccinations you received and the COVID vaccine, is that the ones you received did something. A COVID "vaccine" does nothing. Nothing beneficial anyway.


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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
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Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Originally Posted by deflave
I know it's a tough pill for many of you to swallow, but this thread and the entire COVID affair, is a perfect example of just how GD dumb and gullible most people are.

Yes, there are bad people in every walk of life that genuinely promote the ideals of communism, socialism, etc. But the vast majority of human beings today are just flat fugking stupid, and flat fugking gullible. It's safe to assume that most everybody today has at least an 8th grade education and it is taught that you cannot vaccinate a virus like COVID. This is proven science going back 100 years. It was taught to all of us at some point in our lives.

There are only two classes of people alive today. Americans, and fugking idiots.


When COVID-19 first started and I listened to the news and then I looked around my community and did not see what the news and government was claiming in their reports. At that point I knew not to believe their BS



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Originally Posted by Tyrone
The thing about drugs, any drugs, is not if you will get side effects, it's when you will get side effects. Take any drug (or vax) often enough and you will at some point experience adverse side effects.

A great example is the hippy, Biden, Pelosi, Schumer, left over from the 50's and 60's Drug infested Government, Country running Democratic Sloths!

Who the in the "He*#" wants to live until their 100 in a Home, shi%*#ng them selves all day, relying on some liberal govt. worker to clean their a*s! I Don't!

Brother in Law, 30 Yrs. Marine!!! Dodged The Vid. got sick 6 yrs. ago, was healthy as a lark, was the Dick Clark of the Family, Ran, Swam, ate Healthy,
Died last month at 68 yrs. old! Lost my best friend, and Brother I never Had! Pro Gun, Hunter, Fisherman, great outdoors man, helped many people!!!
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Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by deflave
I know it's a tough pill for many of you to swallow, but this thread and the entire COVID affair, is a perfect example of just how GD dumb and gullible most people are.

Yes, there are bad people in every walk of life that genuinely promote the ideals of communism, socialism, etc. But the vast majority of human beings today are just flat fugking stupid, and flat fugking gullible. It's safe to assume that most everybody today has at least an 8th grade education and it is taught that you cannot vaccinate a virus like COVID. This is proven science going back 100 years. It was taught to all of us at some point in our lives.

There are only two classes of people alive today. Americans, and fugking idiots.


When COVID-19 first started and I listened to the news and then I looked around my community and did not see what the news and government was claiming in their reports. At that point I knew not to believe their BS


Been saying from the start: It never added up


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Sorry for your loss Shaun it sucks son in law died of brain cancer. I agree with everything you said. After I had covid a nurse told me I should get the jab. Doctor's wouldn't recognize natural imunity. I guess I will never look at the medical industry the same. My daughter is a nurse she got a religous exception. I hope you are doing as well as possible.

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I always get a flu shot. No covid shot for me.


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Originally Posted by jwp475
When COVID-19 first started and I listened to the news and then I looked around my community and did not see what the news and government was claiming in their reports. At that point I knew not to believe their BS

That's because you're an American.


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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
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Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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It’s interesting to me that a majority of vaxxers in my opinion believe that they made a free and informed and unencumbered decision when they were in reality bombarded by propaganda and fear and were driven into “volitional choice”.

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NO!

Have had the china flue, and survived.


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Originally Posted by HunterShooter58
I guess we've all got a story to tell. I've known my Dr. for over 40 yrs. now, and we've become good close friends. The Man is simply a genius. He practices what he preaches and it works for him. We Steel head fish together in a very nice clean Running River with Fly Rods for Sport. A lot of conversation goes on there. I can't begin to start to tell all the stories, and factual lessons he has taught me as he's got about 10 yrs on me. He kept my Father in Law alive for many yrs. who had several ailments. Okay point made. He suggested my Family and I get the Vaccine, as we did. That's why I go to him, and ask his advice! He's been sending us his medical Journals,(copy) via email for yrs. Like he does his other 3000 patients, if you want it. Before his email so called program, we would ask for his discarded copies, and finally subscribed to the journals through him. My wife and I are avid Readers. Sometimes, I have to re read something, as I'm a diagnosed open read interpreter! Crazy! Anyway, he suggested the First Booster, and we got it. All of us just made a huge move from a couple States over, to our place, and got the Vid from the Movers, probably! we're All doing well, as Milder Symptoms, prevailed, compared to Most. We're all very active, ages 64, down to 36, and getting along like we had a bad cold! Achy, contested, a little sore,etc........................Like Reagan said "Trust but Verify". That's always been my motto.
My cousin, 56 yrs. old, had it for 2 yrs, almost died on more than one occasion, the ventilator, the whole nine yards...................
Would not get the Vaccine!!! His choice, no argument from Me! He's a few lbs. overweight like I am, and also active, but still 2 different people. He just went on permanent Disability, as he'll never be the same. Just a perspective comparison of a couple of people in the whole mix of things. Certainly no Medical trial by any Means.
Two elderly cousins,(Born in Italy), in their 70's, wouldn't get the vax last yr., they both Died within a week.Their 4 kids, anti vaxers, in their 40's all got the vid trying to help the parents, but thankfully survived.Many of my Relatives from the old Country,(Italy), "they no believe", until they see or experience it.
Do what's best for you and yours! No Criticism from me, I wish you all the best. Good Health, and God Bless!

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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by HunterShooter58
I guess we've all got a story to tell. I've known my Dr. for over 40 yrs. now, and we've become good close friends. The Man is simply a genius. He practices what he preaches and it works for him. We Steel head fish together in a very nice clean Running River with Fly Rods for Sport. A lot of conversation goes on there. I can't begin to start to tell all the stories, and factual lessons he has taught me as he's got about 10 yrs on me. He kept my Father in Law alive for many yrs. who had several ailments. Okay point made. He suggested my Family and I get the Vaccine, as we did. That's why I go to him, and ask his advice! He's been sending us his medical Journals,(copy) via email for yrs. Like he does his other 3000 patients, if you want it. Before his email so called program, we would ask for his discarded copies, and finally subscribed to the journals through him. My wife and I are avid Readers. Sometimes, I have to re read something, as I'm a diagnosed open read interpreter! Crazy! Anyway, he suggested the First Booster, and we got it. All of us just made a huge move from a couple States over, to our place, and got the Vid from the Movers, probably! we're All doing well, as Milder Symptoms, prevailed, compared to Most. We're all very active, ages 64, down to 36, and getting along like we had a bad cold! Achy, contested, a little sore,etc........................Like Reagan said "Trust but Verify". That's always been my motto.
My cousin, 56 yrs. old, had it for 2 yrs, almost died on more than one occasion, the ventilator, the whole nine yards...................
Would not get the Vaccine!!! His choice, no argument from Me! He's a few lbs. overweight like I am, and also active, but still 2 different people. He just went on permanent Disability, as he'll never be the same. Just a perspective comparison of a couple of people in the whole mix of things. Certainly no Medical trial by any Means.
Two elderly cousins,(Born in Italy), in their 70's, wouldn't get the vax last yr., they both Died within a week.Their 4 kids, anti vaxers, in their 40's all got the vid trying to help the parents, but thankfully survived.Many of my Relatives from the old Country,(Italy), "they no believe", until they see or experience it.
Do what's best for you and yours! No Criticism from me, I wish you all the best. Good Health, and God Bless!

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Come on man.

They converse for hours while fly fishing for sport in a clean running river.

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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
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