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Ol Toto if you owned firearms would you turn them in to your hero Biden to be given to Uko NAZiS in Ukraine? lmao?




Originally Posted by Houston_2
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Ukraine forces are now successfully using the US supplied VAMPIRE anti drone systems against the Russian drones and the Iranian supplied drones.
These devices are portable, need no runway to launch and is also capable of jamming and redirecting the Russian fired drones.
WSJ, Reuters
Is Ukraine going to defeat Russia? Your opinion?

I don’t know about a total defeat but they are apparently willing to take it all the way.

My concern is that Putin now really has no realistic way to extract Russia from this without losing face.

Let’s realize that this little jaunt by putin is now into the 6th month. He made a really bad miscalculation. Striking the Russian Black Sea Fleet headquarters in The Crimea was a wake up call of major proportions for putin.

Both sides have lost a hell of a lot for sure but commitments by Ukraine allies have already been signed and agreed to for the rebuilding effort that’s gonna be badly needed but yet to know the full extent of what will be needed.


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Originally Posted by Houston_2
Originally Posted by Hastings
Originally Posted by Houston_2
Ukraine forces are now successfully using the US supplied VAMPIRE anti drone systems against the Russian drones and the Iranian supplied drones.
These devices are portable, need no runway to launch and is also capable of jamming and redirecting the Russian fired drones.WSJ, Reuters
Is Ukraine going to defeat Russia? Your opinion?
I don’t know about a total defeat but they are apparently willing to take it all the way.
My concern is that Putin now really has no realistic way to extract Russia from this without losing face.
Let’s realize that this little jaunt by putin is now into the 6th month. He made a really bad miscalculation. Striking the Russian Black Sea Fleet headquarters in The Crimea was a wake up call of major proportions for putin.
Both sides have lost a hell of a lot for sure but commitments by Ukraine allies have already been signed and agreed to for the rebuilding effort that’s gonna be badly needed but yet to know the full extent of what will be needed.
Surely Russia has the armed forces to obliterate Ukraine. I have to wonder if Putin is taking it slow for a reason. Maybe he is enjoying putting the NATO countries which are already insolvent into worse insolvency. Our economies are tanking and Russia is prospering. The ruble is welcome lots of places and has gained over 100% against the western countries. Russia is taking in more foreign cash than before all this leaky embargo. My biggest concern is that we are spending money we don't have to prop up a nasty government that has corrupted our politicians with under the table money that my kids are going suffer from when this country (USA) goes financially belly up.

We have no national security interest in this war or in NATO. Russia ain't the Russia of the 1960s. If we would just get out of the way this whole thing would settle quickly but I'm sure the NWO folks and the central bankers that have their eye on the huge prize of Russia aren't going to let their political lackeys just turn this loose.

Einstein or somebody said they knew not what weapons WW3 would be fought with but WW4 would be fought with sticks and stones. We might ought to remember how the Grande Armee and the Wehrmacht fared except this time the Russians have access to China and India, all nuclear armed.


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Its not even a Russian invasion. Its not a war. It's a Russian operation. Putin is cleaning out the Nazi pukes Zero set up in Ukraine.


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Originally Posted by Hastings
Surely Russia has the armed forces to obliterate Ukraine. I have to wonder if Putin is taking it slow for a reason. Maybe he is enjoying putting the NATO countries which are already insolvent into worse insolvency. Our economies are tanking and Russia is prospering.
That's a good point. How often do we say, tongue in cheek, that the US will fight Russia to the last Ukrainian? The standard response for the slow, methodical advance is that it saves civilians and Russian troops. But that's small picture. Maybe the big picture is exactly what you've said - grind down NATO countries as well.


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Russian troops shortages are at desperate levels. Russia is compelling those who were earlier wounded and who survived to return to combat.

Russia is actively seeking again to find more mercenaries who will go to combat zones as many currently hired mercenaries have deserted.

AP, BBC

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Originally Posted by Hastings
Surely Russia has the armed forces to obliterate Ukraine.

They tripped on their dicks when invading Georgia, and then significantly overhauled their military, but maybe not enough.

Much of the early observation of Russia's inability to take Kyiv questioned whether the oligarchs had redirected much of the military budget to their pockets.

I would have agreed with you at first, but the proof is in the pudding so to speak. At this point, all evidence points to the Russian military having been overestimated.

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Geeze...Russia should be through the Fulda gap by now! Sheesh.


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Originally Posted by plumbum
heir pockets.

At this point, all evidence points to the Russian military having been overestimated.

Evidence provided by who?

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Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by plumbum
heir pockets.

At this point, all evidence points to the Russian military having been overestimated.

Evidence provided by who?

Because obviously they haven't taken the Czechs yet!


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To get an understanding of how the Ukraine squabble is going, sometimes it's best to listen to what the leaders of neighboring countries have to say. Victor Orban, Prime Minister of Hungary had some things to say about it in a speech he recently delivered.

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Western strategy in this war is based on four pillars. It is a sensible strategy on paper, and perhaps even has numbers to back it up. The first was that Ukraine cannot win a war against Russia on its own, but it can do so with training from the Anglo-Saxons and with NATO weapons. That was the first claim. The second strategic claim was that sanctions would weaken Russia and destabilize the leadership in Moscow. The third strategic element was that — although they would also affect us — we would be able to deal with the economic consequences of the sanctions, so that they would be hurt more and we would be hurt less. And the fourth strategic consideration was that the world would line up behind us, because we were in the right.

As a result of this excellent strategy, however, today the situation is that we are sitting in a car with four flat tires. It is absolutely clear that the war cannot be won like this. The Ukrainians will never win a war against Russia with American training and weapons. This is simply because the Russian army has asymmetric superiority. The second fact that we must face up to is that the sanctions are not destabilizing Moscow. The third is that Europe is in trouble: economic trouble, but also political trouble, with governments falling like dominoes. Just since the outbreak of the war, the British, the Italian, the Bulgarian, and the Estonian governments have fallen. And autumn is still ahead of us.

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Another failed Uko NAZI offensive


Russian forces have taken out hundreds of Ukrainian troops and dozens of tanks and armored military vehicles after repelling an ill-fated offensive in the south of the country, the Defense Ministry claimed on Tuesday.

A statement added that officials believe the failerd operation was mounted at the personal order of President Vladimir Zelensky.

“The effective actions by the Russian forces destroyed 48 tanks, 46 infantry fighting vehicles, 37 other armored combat vehicles, eight pickups with heavy machine guns and more than 1,200 Ukrainian servicemen in one day,” they outlined. The Ministry added that Kiev sustained these losses during a botched offensive whose directions led to Nikolaev, Krivoy Rog, and other cities in southern Ukraine.

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I really admire Orban

Originally Posted by Bristoe
To get an understanding of how the Ukraine squabble is going, sometimes it's best to listen to what the leaders of neighboring countries have to say. Victor Orban, Prime Minister of Hungary had some things to say about it in a speech he recently delivered.

Excerpt:

Western strategy in this war is based on four pillars. It is a sensible strategy on paper, and perhaps even has numbers to back it up. The first was that Ukraine cannot win a war against Russia on its own, but it can do so with training from the Anglo-Saxons and with NATO weapons. That was the first claim. The second strategic claim was that sanctions would weaken Russia and destabilize the leadership in Moscow. The third strategic element was that — although they would also affect us — we would be able to deal with the economic consequences of the sanctions, so that they would be hurt more and we would be hurt less. And the fourth strategic consideration was that the world would line up behind us, because we were in the right.

As a result of this excellent strategy, however, today the situation is that we are sitting in a car with four flat tires. It is absolutely clear that the war cannot be won like this. The Ukrainians will never win a war against Russia with American training and weapons. This is simply because the Russian army has asymmetric superiority. The second fact that we must face up to is that the sanctions are not destabilizing Moscow. The third is that Europe is in trouble: economic trouble, but also political trouble, with governments falling like dominoes. Just since the outbreak of the war, the British, the Italian, the Bulgarian, and the Estonian governments have fallen. And autumn is still ahead of us.

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First frost in Europe, the war will be "over". It will be called a conflict, so they can buy Russian energy. People will put themselves above all else when they can't keep warm, etc. Anarchy will rein if there isn't some type of agreement on energy. Germany will be the first to bow out.



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Originally Posted by ribka
Gazprom shares rally on huge profits report
The stock soared more than 30% as the company announced dividend payouts to shareholders
Gazprom shares rally on huge profits rep
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© Alexander NEMENOV / AFP
Russian energy major Gazprom's stock jumped 31% on Wednesday to 267.25 rubles per share (just over $4.43) on the Moscow Exchange, following the company’s announcement of bumper profits and dividend payments to shareholders.

The gas giant said its board had recommended a dividend of 51.03 Russian rubles ($0.85) per ordinary share for the first half of 2022. In its first-half earnings report released on Tuesday, Gazprom announced a record 2.5 trillion rubles ($41.75 billion) in net


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Their already looking the other way on Russian Gas via China..

Their Gobbling it Up ..

It’s all about Pitchforks Baby ..

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Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by plumbum
heir pockets.

At this point, all evidence points to the Russian military having been overestimated.

Evidence provided by who?

The overwhelming majority of reporting.

What evidence regarding Russian failure to take Kyiv do you question, and what evidence would you provide in support?

Did you expect Russia to take Kyiv, or not? When did you reach that conclusion, and did your expectations change as the war went on?

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Originally Posted by jaguartx
Its not even a Russian invasion. Its not a war. It's a Russian operation.

Ah yes. Like the Korean police action?

The Inflation Reduction Act?

Titles don't impress me very much.

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Some "trust the science and Media" types on this thread.


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why would Russia want to take Kiev?




Originally Posted by plumbum
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by plumbum
heir pockets.

At this point, all evidence points to the Russian military having been overestimated.

Evidence provided by who?

The overwhelming majority of reporting.

What evidence regarding Russian failure to take Kyiv do you question, and what evidence would you provide in support?

Did you expect Russia to take Kyiv, or not? When did you reach that conclusion, and did your expectations change as the war went on?

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Our stock market and economy doing great according to Houston unlike Russia being destroyed by sanctions lmao




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Originally Posted by ribka
Gazprom shares rally on huge profits report
The stock soared more than 30% as the company announced dividend payouts to shareholders
Gazprom shares rally on huge profits rep
ort

© Alexander NEMENOV / AFP
Russian energy major Gazprom's stock jumped 31% on Wednesday to 267.25 rubles per share (just over $4.43) on the Moscow Exchange, following the company’s announcement of bumper profits and dividend payments to shareholders.

The gas giant said its board had recommended a dividend of 51.03 Russian rubles ($0.85) per ordinary share for the first half of 2022. In its first-half earnings report released on Tuesday, Gazprom announced a record 2.5 trillion rubles ($41.75 billion) in net


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Originally Posted by ribka
why would Russia want to take Kiev?




Originally Posted by plumbum
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by plumbum
heir pockets.

At this point, all evidence points to the Russian military having been overestimated.

Evidence provided by who?

The overwhelming majority of reporting.

What evidence regarding Russian failure to take Kyiv do you question, and what evidence would you provide in support?

Did you expect Russia to take Kyiv, or not? When did you reach that conclusion, and did your expectations change as the war went on?

Duh!

Because Putin wants to take over the world!


Also, all the news outlets say Ron DeSantis is a fascist.....so it must be true.


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