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Originally Posted by TheLastLemming76
Originally Posted by ribka
Ol toot’ has never been outside his method out trailer park in white trashville Louisiana

HHence his complete lack of knowledge of all subject matters and was run off of here for endless lying







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Originally Posted by Houston_2
Day 191 of Russia’s stroll in the park.

So some here say that Russia really didn’t want Kyiv, eh?

The Russians really didn’t want to set up a puppet government there for Ukraine like they did in Georgia and The Crimea, eh?

Laughing.

Repeat,,,,day 191 of this easy walk in the park.

,...and firewood sales in Europe are through the roof.
Wasn’t it Goalie that shamed him off of here as old hoot? LOL

The guy with the huge lake house that got shamed off for being A uketard? LOL




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Originally Posted by Houston_2
Day 191 of Russia’s stroll in the park.

So some here say that Russia really didn’t want Kyiv, eh?

The Russians really didn’t want to set up a puppet government there for Ukraine like they did in Georgia and The Crimea, eh?

Laughing.

Repeat,,,,day 191 of this easy walk in the park.
Before all this got kicked off I believe all Russia wanted was a truly neutral Ukraine buffer between them and NATO. NATO wasn't having that and is an avowed enemy of Russia. Russia has a history of trying to stay isolationist but the Germans (and way back when, Napoleon) weren't for having that rich prize sitting over there independent. In reaction to that the USSR set up eastern Europe as a buffer which lasted a good 40+ years. Now the NWO folks know their plan requires Russia to be brought down or China and India can't be controlled. This is a battle for world domination, and now technology can support it. Russia must be destroyed.


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Ukraine in the Zelenskiy battle of Kherson. ( just like the battle of Kursk in WWII when the Germans lost bigly and suffered huge losses) Fighting in open fields marching behind tanks provided by the corrupt west in flat, open fields on the steppe. No air support , no air defenseswhile Russia had large air assets, air dense systems in placed that mowed down Uko tanks, artillery and soldiers like fish in a barrel.. Very high losses again. Horrific needless deaths. Zelenskiy is ready to send thousands more to their deaths for his offshore accounts over flowing with us tax payer aid.

Great job planning this Battle Biden intel agencies, the pentagon and Boris Johnson . Thousands dying while no one is punished for piss poor planning



Rinse repeat

Zero coverage in the western press. No one is surprised




Between August 29 and September 1, during the so-called Kherson counter-offensive and the unsuccessful attack on the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant, forces loyal to Zelensky lost approximately 2,500 military killed. As well as was destroyed 94 tanks, 81 armored personnel carriers, 66 other armored vehicles, 22 pickup trucks with heavy machine guns, 17 special vehicles, 2 Su-25 attack aircraft, 1 Su-24 front-line bomber, 1 MiG-29 fighter, 3 MI-8 transport helicopters.

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Ukraine is losin so bad, it's against the law ta report about it:

"The General Staff of the Ukrainian Armed Forces has issued new regulations on reporting from the frontline: journalists and mass media are forbidden to evaluate the actions of the Ukrainian Army and the Ukrainian Defense Forces as a whole. In addition, according to the new rules, any alternative interpretations of the current situation at the frontline and their forecasts about the course of combat actions are not allowed – only the Ukrainian Armed Forces can provide information about it."

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Originally Posted by jackmountain
Originally Posted by TheLastLemming76
Originally Posted by ribka
Ol toot’ has never been outside his method out trailer park in white trashville Louisiana

HHence his complete lack of knowledge of all subject matters and was run off of here for endless lying







Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by Houston_2
Day 191 of Russia’s stroll in the park.

So some here say that Russia really didn’t want Kyiv, eh?

The Russians really didn’t want to set up a puppet government there for Ukraine like they did in Georgia and The Crimea, eh?

Laughing.

Repeat,,,,day 191 of this easy walk in the park.

,...and firewood sales in Europe are through the roof.
Wasn’t it Goalie that shamed him off of here as old hoot? LOL

The guy with the huge lake house that got shamed off for being A uketard? LOL
Yes! The same guy that always showed the same one or two pics of a lake with an ashtray sitting on patio furniture.

A complete jackass and a male nurse lol. To his credit his lasting legacy before he himself being runoff in shame was running off old hoot.

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Originally Posted by Fubarski
Ukraine is losin so bad, it's against the law ta report about it:

"The General Staff of the Ukrainian Armed Forces has issued new regulations on reporting from the frontline: journalists and mass media are forbidden to evaluate the actions of the Ukrainian Army and the Ukrainian Defense Forces as a whole. In addition, according to the new rules, any alternative interpretations of the current situation at the frontline and their forecasts about the course of combat actions are not allowed – only the Ukrainian Armed Forces can provide information about it."
That must have been the news reporting rules from Vietnam. All we ever heard was U.S. army reported light casualties. Then our bunch were run out of there having to be rescued off rooftops. Kind of like Afghanistan.

Ukraine doesn't want the truth told, it might cut off the money supply. You can bet Zelensky has his hand on the ejection lever.


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Originally Posted by Hastings
Before all this got kicked off I believe all Russia wanted was a truly neutral Ukraine buffer between them and NATO. NATO wasn't having that and is an avowed enemy of Russia. Russia has a history of trying to stay isolationist but the Germans (and way back when, Napoleon) weren't for having that rich prize sitting over there independent. In reaction to that the USSR set up eastern Europe as a buffer which lasted a good 40+ years. Now the NWO folks know their plan requires Russia to be brought down or China and India can't be controlled. This is a battle for world domination, and now technology can support it. Russia must be destroyed.

The USSR didn't just "set up Eastern Europe as a buffer"; they invaded them and forcibly occupied them under military and political oppression. Eastern Europe did not want it then, and they don't want it now.

Putin does want to recreate the geopolitics of the USSR (though without Communism), he cannot be blamed for his wants, and everybody understands why he would want a buffer after WWI and WWII; but the wants of the former Soviet republics are just as valid as are his. If they don't want to be under Putin's thumb, why should they be?

If Ukraine doesn't want to be subjugated by Putin, why should they be?

If Russia is so great, and Putin is so great, why does Ukraine want no part of it?

In my life, I have found Occam's Razor to be very effective. The simple explanation is usually right. Ukraine simply wants to be left alone, but Putin simply wants to control it for Russia's benefit.

It's not rocket science, it's just human nature. No conspiracies needed, no cabals, no Q, freemasons, just the same territorial ambitions since time immemorial.

Putin wants to rebuild the USSR's geopolitical influence, but the former members don't want to be part of it.

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Originally Posted by plumbum
Originally Posted by Hastings
Before all this got kicked off I believe all Russia wanted was a truly neutral Ukraine buffer between them and NATO. NATO wasn't having that and is an avowed enemy of Russia. Russia has a history of trying to stay isolationist but the Germans (and way back when, Napoleon) weren't for having that rich prize sitting over there independent. In reaction to that the USSR set up eastern Europe as a buffer which lasted a good 40+ years. Now the NWO folks know their plan requires Russia to be brought down or China and India can't be controlled. This is a battle for world domination, and now technology can support it. Russia must be destroyed.

The USSR didn't just "set up Eastern Europe as a buffer"; they invaded them and forcibly occupied them under military and political oppression. Eastern Europe did not want it then, and they don't want it now.

Putin does want to recreate the geopolitics of the USSR (though without Communism), he cannot be blamed for his wants, and everybody understands why he would want a buffer after WWI and WWII; but the wants of the former Soviet republics are just as valid as are his. If they don't want to be under Putin's thumb, why should they be?

If Ukraine doesn't want to be subjugated by Putin, why should they be?

If Russia is so great, and Putin is so great, why does Ukraine want no part of it?

In my life, I have found Occam's Razor to be very effective. The simple explanation is usually right. Ukraine simply wants to be left alone, but Putin simply wants to control it for Russia's benefit.

It's not rocket science, it's just human nature. No conspiracies needed, no cabals, no Q, freemasons, just the same territorial ambitions since time immemorial.

Putin wants to rebuild the USSR's geopolitical influence, but the former members don't want to be part of it.
You’re missing a simple key point.

Well more than one but let’s start with one. It was our government and covert ops that set up a puppet regime in Ukraine friendly to what the US wanted. Money laundry, bio labs, and hostile towards Russia. We opened the door to this whole thing with the corrupt, hostile towards Russia puppet regime that we put in place.

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Originally Posted by plumbum
If Russia is so great, and Putin is so great, why does Ukraine want no part of it?
That's not true. The citizens of Lugansk and Donetsk, Ukraine wanted no part of a westernized Ukraine. Don't they count? Ukraine went in the western direction due to a CIA-sponsored revolution, not because of a popular, democratic vote.


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Putin is still in office with over 80% approval.

Boris Johnson is gone, Draghi resigned twice, other euro leaders are losin popularity, and Russia has taken 1/4 of Ukraine.

But don't worry, everything is going just as NATO planned.

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Originally Posted by Fubarski
Putin is still in office with over 80% approval.

Boris Johnson is gone, Draghi resigned twice, other euro leaders are losin popularity, and Russia has taken 1/4 of Ukraine.

But don't worry, everything is going just as NATO planned.

More Zelenskiy inspired tactical retreats by Ukos backed by the US and NATO. winning

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I read that Putins O&G profits alone are up over 40% YTD. The ruble is stronger today than this time last year and Europe is about to freeze death.

I’m no fan of Putin but to anyone that can dispense with the emotion and just look at the facts can see that all the sanctions that the West put in place has not had the effects they anticipated. The West has effectively sanctioned themselves. Instead of making Russia suffer for their special military action in Ukraine they have decreased the food, oil, natural gas, etc available to Europe and significantly increased the cost of those necessities.


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Originally Posted by AcesNeights
I read that Putins O&G profits alone are up over 40% YTD. The ruble is stronger today than this time last year and Europe is about to freeze death.

I’m no fan of Putin but to anyone that can dispense with the emotion and just look at the facts can see that all the sanctions that the West put in place has not had the effects they anticipated. The West has effectively sanctioned themselves. Instead of making Russia suffer for their special military action in Ukraine they have decreased the food, oil, natural gas, etc available to Europe and significantly increased the cost of those necessities.


And no one could predict that. Lol Sanctions have never worked and only hurt the working class but that was well known before this war started

But all of the American patriots supported this in the name of "fee dumb" despite causing a recession here and global chaos and a dismantling of western civilization

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Originally Posted by AcesNeights
I read that Putins O&G profits alone are up over 40% YTD. The ruble is stronger today than this time last year and Europe is about to freeze death.

I’m no fan of Putin but to anyone that can dispense with the emotion and just look at the facts can see that all the sanctions that the West put in place has not had the effects they anticipated. The West has effectively sanctioned themselves. Instead of making Russia suffer for their special military action in Ukraine they have decreased the food, oil, natural gas, etc available to Europe and significantly increased the cost of those necessities.
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And no one could predict that. Lol Sanctions have never worked and only hurt the working class but that was well known before this war started

But all of the American patriots supported this in the name of "fee dumb" despite causing a recession here and global chaos and a dismantling of western civilization
Oh but sanctions do work. Many times actually most times they lead to war. War that the politicians and bankers want but the middle and lower economic class kids have to die in.


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Originally Posted by Tyrone
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If Russia is so great, and Putin is so great, why does Ukraine want no part of it?
That's not true. The citizens of Lugansk and Donetsk, Ukraine wanted no part of a westernized Ukraine. Don't they count?


Not always. No borders are drawn perfectly. And I doubt they were really mistreated.

Linguistic or cultural minorities generally get by. If the Ukrainians and the Russians are truly as close, historically and culturally, as Putin says, then it it does not make sense that Ukraine woukd mistreat the folks you are worried about. Furthermore, Zelensky knows who and what Putin is. Better than we do. He knew Putin wanted an eastern-facing government in Ukraine. Given that, it makes no sense that Zelenskiy or any other Ukrainians would in fact mistreat the Russian minority, because that would give Putin a pretext to interfere. Just like Hitler did to rescue those poor Germans being mistreated so in the Sudetendland and Pomerania. It would not be a rational act by Ukraine.

It makes much more sense that Putin simply wanted control over Crimea, and Ukraine's Black sea coast. That is 100% rational. Every nation wants coastal access for themselves, but not for others.

Putin is not fighting for Russians any more than Mussolini was fighting for Italians. He is an ambitious, capable, autocratic world leader who is comfortable using military aggression to rebuild the geopolitical status of the USSR.

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Ukraine went in the western direction due to a CIA-sponsored revolution, not because of a popular, democratic vote.

It's just as valid to observe that all the pro-Russian activity in Ukraine is FSB-sponsored.

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Originally Posted by Fubarski
Putin is still in office with over 80% approval.

He kills or imprisons the opposition. How can you ignore that?

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what's a linguistic minority? lol

What's your preferred personal pronoun?

Over 12,000 ethnic Russians killed( mostly civilians) and hundreds of atrocities well documented since the war began in 2014 and paid for by the US and NATO who both specialize in invading third world countries and just indiscriminately killing people. What''s the death toll from US invasions ( all unjustified) the past 60 years? Close to a 800,000 or more all killed for nothing. The eastern world and a good many countries abhor the US for its endless wars. No wonder the world is resigning and our country is now run by a racist dictator who makes Putin look like a Girl Scout in comparison

You always leave out facts and actually well documented history in that region

There were 15 republics in the FSU. Amazing how ill informed and just dumb Americans are




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If Russia is so great, and Putin is so great, why does Ukraine want no part of it?
That's not true. The citizens of Lugansk and Donetsk, Ukraine wanted no part of a westernized Ukraine. Don't they count?


Not always. No borders are drawn perfectly. And I doubt they were really mistreated.

Linguistic or cultural minorities generally get by. If the Ukrainians and the Russians are truly as close, historically and culturally, as Putin says, then it it does not make sense that Ukraine woukd mistreat the folks you are worried about. Furthermore, Zelensky knows who and what Putin is. Better than we do. He knew Putin wanted an eastern-facing government in Ukraine. Given that, it makes no sense that Zelenskiy or any other Ukrainians would in fact mistreat the Russian minority, because that would give Putin a pretext to interfere. Just like Hitler did to rescue those poor Germans being mistreated so in the Sudetendland and Pomerania. It would not be a rational act by Ukraine.

It makes much more sense that Putin simply wanted control over Crimea, and Ukraine's Black sea coast. That is 100% rational. Every nation wants coastal access for themselves, but not for others.

Putin is not fighting for Russians any more than Mussolini was fighting for Italians. He is an ambitious, capable, autocratic world leader who is comfortable using military aggression to rebuild the geopolitical status of the USSR.

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Ukraine went in the western direction due to a CIA-sponsored revolution, not because of a popular, democratic vote.

It's just as valid to observe that all the pro-Russian activity in Ukraine is FSB-sponsored.

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