Houston…..The popularity of Bandera (sp?) with so many Ukrainians as well as the symbolism of their patches on their Ukrainian uniforms indicates that neo-Nazi ideology is alive and well in Ukraine. It stands to reason if one understands history because the Einsatzgruppen were comprised of many Ukrainians. Once they had lost the war they simply removed their uniforms and began to walk home. Losing the war does NOT mean that they suddenly found humanity or compassion and have turned from their evil ways, it means that the Nazis and their ideology was incorporated into daily life. Those Einsatzgruppen Nazis returned to Ukraine after the war and raised their children, imparting their hatred and inhumanity on their children. Those children of first generation Nazis also had children and so on and so forth but they all imparted their beliefs on their children. Those children of the original Nazis are now the leaders, commanders, politicians and soldiers that are now engaged fighting against the Russian invasion and occupation.
I don’t blame anyone, irregardless of the reason why they were invaded, for fighting tooth and nail against the invaders. Those “normal Ukrainians” are unfortunate pawns in the political games of their leaders….their lives are cheap when compared to the enormous sums of money that are being sent over for the politicians to skim and distribute. The corruption in Ukraine is beyond our comprehension, Ukraine is considered the most corrupt country in “Europe”, that “honor” is not without significant competition.
I understand, at least in the absence of actual knowledge, that taking the side of the country that’s being invaded is a default position but I don’t understand why so many Americans are blindly and without any historical context supporting the most corrupt government in Europe.
My questions to you Houston is why are you so Pro-Ukraine? Do you simply ignore the pervasive Nazi ideology espoused by the Ukrainians? Assuming that ethnic Russians in the east and in the south (Donbass, Crimea, etc) were being mistreated by their fellow “countrymen” AND assuming that the vote for independence which passed with overwhelming support (96%+) to join the Russian federation was ignored by Ukraine don’t those people have a legitimate grievance?
From the beginning of this “special military action” I have been fairly impartial. I haven’t chosen a “side” because I really don’t GAF about either the Russians or Ukrainians…. I consider them to be one and the same. My only allegiance is to THIS country and in so far as that’s concerned I would have to say that it’s the Ukrainians that are weakening and undermining our economy.
�Politicians are the lowest form of life on earth. Liberal Democrats are the lowest form of politician.� �General George S. Patton, Jr.
At least the Ukraine people do go out and fight for their nation as opposed to the Russian troops telling their military to gf themselves and refusing to go into to the Ukraine debacle created by their fearless leader whom so many here adore and worship while he goes to terrorist Iran and terrorist North Korea for arms that his country no longer has the capacity to produce. The lockdown is working.
Having a 10/1 advantage that’s touted here doesn’t seem to do much good for Russia when their troops tells the Brass FU.
Bristoe you earlier asked why continue with this considering the “small audience” it’s addressed to.
We’re now at 90,446 and counting. Small audience indeed.
Ukraine won't let men leave the country and they have a draft that is similar to being arrested - they round you up, cuff you if you resist and conscript you. If you get in the field and decide it's a lost cause, Ukrainian officers shoot you in the back.
You should know that you "Episcopalians" stand out like a flaming neon sign on the mountain top when a situation like this arises.
A lot of us old folks miss it,...but the young people have clued in on it pretty quick.
My guess is,...#110, maybe #111, #112, #113, #114 and #115 will turn up before the end of the 21st century.
People all over the world are starting to pour out into the streets to protest against this insanity.
Brazil will come completely unglued if the election is stolen from Bolsonaro. The Czech Republic has already taken to the streets. The German people are starting to get a clue,...Great Britain, also.
Things are going to get interesting early in 2023.
Houston…..The popularity of Bandera (sp?) with so many Ukrainians as well as the symbolism of their patches on their Ukrainian uniforms indicates that neo-Nazi ideology is alive and well in Ukraine. It stands to reason if one understands history because the Einsatzgruppen were comprised of many Ukrainians. Once they had lost the war they simply removed their uniforms and began to walk home. Losing the war does NOT mean that they suddenly found humanity or compassion and have turned from their evil ways, it means that the Nazis and their ideology was incorporated into daily life. Those Einsatzgruppen Nazis returned to Ukraine after the war and raised their children, imparting their hatred and inhumanity on their children. Those children of first generation Nazis also had children and so on and so forth but they all imparted their beliefs on their children. Those children of the original Nazis are now the leaders, commanders, politicians and soldiers that are now engaged fighting against the Russian invasion and occupation.
I don’t blame anyone, irregardless of the reason why they were invaded, for fighting tooth and nail against the invaders. Those “normal Ukrainians” are unfortunate pawns in the political games of their leaders….their lives are cheap when compared to the enormous sums of money that are being sent over for the politicians to skim and distribute. The corruption in Ukraine is beyond our comprehension, Ukraine is considered the most corrupt country in “Europe”, that “honor” is not without significant competition.
I understand, at least in the absence of actual knowledge, that taking the side of the country that’s being invaded is a default position but I don’t understand why so many Americans are blindly and without any historical context supporting the most corrupt government in Europe.
My questions to you Houston is why are you so Pro-Ukraine? Do you simply ignore the pervasive Nazi ideology espoused by the Ukrainians? Assuming that ethnic Russians in the east and in the south (Donbass, Crimea, etc) were being mistreated by their fellow “countrymen” AND assuming that the vote for independence which passed with overwhelming support (96%+) to join the Russian federation was ignored by Ukraine don’t those people have a legitimate grievance?
From the beginning of this “special military action” I have been fairly impartial. I haven’t chosen a “side” because I really don’t GAF about either the Russians or Ukrainians…. I consider them to be one and the same. My only allegiance is to THIS country and in so far as that’s concerned I would have to say that it’s the Ukrainians that are weakening and undermining our economy.
Why do you care? The Jews and Poles who lost tens of thousands to OUN-UPA do not seem to mind. Matter of fact the Poles are supporting several million Ukrainian refugees.
Several Russian plants here I see.... A rational person would spew Russian propaganda so easily...
Ukraine has done several pushes 70-80 miles into Russian held territory.... quite nerve-racking to see how it goes.. Tens of thousands of Russians are surrounded and cut of on several fronts... hundreds of Russian POW taken during the last 3 days.
The US in the last 40 years:
Socialism for big corporations and military industrial complex
Why do you care? The Jews and Poles who lost tens of thousands to OUN-UPA do not seem to mind. Matter of fact the Poles are supporting several million Ukrainian refugees.
I agree...
Poland set aside any difference they had, to destroy as many orcs as possible..
Poland took in millions of Ukrainians refuges without hesitation and gave as much military equipment they could to Ukraine. The same with ALL the other former USSR nations... They HATE Russians..
And here we have "Americans" supporting Russian aggression and spread their propaganda... MAGAs all of them, so makes sense!
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The US in the last 40 years:
Socialism for big corporations and military industrial complex
Several Russian plants here I see.... A rational person would spew Russian propaganda so easily...
Ukraine has done several pushes 70-80 miles into Russian held territory.... quite nerve-racking to see how it goes.. Tens of thousands of Russians are surrounded and cut of on several fronts... hundreds of Russian POW taken during the last 3 days.
Sure if you say so…
Originally Posted by Bricktop
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego.
Why do you care? The Jews and Poles who lost tens of thousands to OUN-UPA do not seem to mind. Matter of fact the Poles are supporting several million Ukrainian refugees.
I agree...
Poland set aside any difference they had, to destroy as many orcs as possible..
Poland took in millions of Ukrainians refuges without hesitation and gave as much military equipment they could to Ukraine. The same with ALL the other former USSR nations... They HATE Russians..
And here we have "Americans" supporting Russian aggression and spread their propaganda... MAGAs all of them, so makes sense!
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Ah is yo Pussy hurting down in Homer… 1 I don’t believe a word from our news media, I don’t believe a ph ucking word from our pentagon. If things were going so gd well for Ukraine they have journalists embedded with these ukraine soldiers. Let me guess it’s so dangerous for them that’s why Ukrainian government won’t let them get close to the front.
Originally Posted by Bricktop
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego.
Damn it’s nice getting all of the Howler Monkey Ignor-ants gathered together right here in a single thread. Success beyond measure when you can ignore the low bred, low IQ gang and actually have a good discussion with others whether we agree or not on the subject at hand.
That 10%-15% of the real tough, trash talking, name calling, brave guys hiding behind their keyboards, well, it don’t say much for your mom and pop and how you were raised and you’re most likely raising your kids the same way which is almost guaranteed. Your IQ is abysmal, you can’t help it if you even or ever wanted to change which is impossible, the die is cast for you and sadly, for those around you.
Simply,,,,Eliminate 10%-15% of those types which are found on many forums and you’ve got meaningful exchange of opinions on this thread and on any others here at The Campfire.
Houston…..The popularity of Bandera (sp?) with so many Ukrainians as well as the symbolism of their patches on their Ukrainian uniforms indicates that neo-Nazi ideology is alive and well in Ukraine. It stands to reason if one understands history because the Einsatzgruppen were comprised of many Ukrainians. Once they had lost the war they simply removed their uniforms and began to walk home. Losing the war does NOT mean that they suddenly found humanity or compassion and have turned from their evil ways, it means that the Nazis and their ideology was incorporated into daily life. Those Einsatzgruppen Nazis returned to Ukraine after the war and raised their children, imparting their hatred and inhumanity on their children. Those children of first generation Nazis also had children and so on and so forth but they all imparted their beliefs on their children. Those children of the original Nazis are now the leaders, commanders, politicians and soldiers that are now engaged fighting against the Russian invasion and occupation.
I don’t blame anyone, irregardless of the reason why they were invaded, for fighting tooth and nail against the invaders. Those “normal Ukrainians” are unfortunate pawns in the political games of their leaders….their lives are cheap when compared to the enormous sums of money that are being sent over for the politicians to skim and distribute. The corruption in Ukraine is beyond our comprehension, Ukraine is considered the most corrupt country in “Europe”, that “honor” is not without significant competition.
I understand, at least in the absence of actual knowledge, that taking the side of the country that’s being invaded is a default position but I don’t understand why so many Americans are blindly and without any historical context supporting the most corrupt government in Europe.
My questions to you Houston is why are you so Pro-Ukraine? Do you simply ignore the pervasive Nazi ideology espoused by the Ukrainians? Assuming that ethnic Russians in the east and in the south (Donbass, Crimea, etc) were being mistreated by their fellow “countrymen” AND assuming that the vote for independence which passed with overwhelming support (96%+) to join the Russian federation was ignored by Ukraine don’t those people have a legitimate grievance?
From the beginning of this “special military action” I have been fairly impartial. I haven’t chosen a “side” because I really don’t GAF about either the Russians or Ukrainians…. I consider them to be one and the same. My only allegiance is to THIS country and in so far as that’s concerned I would have to say that it’s the Ukrainians that are weakening and undermining our economy.
Aces, as usual yours is succinct and direct and well thought out.
1. I think that every man here agrees that there are NO good players in the whole matter. Period.
2. For myself I am not so much pro Ukraine as I am anti putin. He’s a KGB, murderer and Dictator for life.
3. Putin does his dealings with the devil’s advocates, I.e. Iran and now North Korea.
4. My opinion is that to believe that Putin’s gonna stop if he takes Ukraine is ludicrous. Remember Georgia and the Crimea? At what point does he stop?
There’s more but this should suffice for the moment.
Damn it’s nice getting all of the Howler Monkey Ignor-ants gathered together right here in a single thread. Success beyond measure when you can ignore the low bred, low IQ gang and actually have a good discussion with others whether we agree or not on the subject at hand.
That 10%-15% of the real tough, trash talking, name calling, brave guys hiding behind their keyboards, well, it don’t say much for your mom and pop and how you were raised and you’re most likely raising your kids the same way which is almost guaranteed. Your IQ is abysmal, you can’t help it if you even or ever wanted to change which is impossible, the die is cast for you and sadly, for those around you.
Simply,,,,Eliminate 10%-15% of those types which are found on many forums and you’ve got meaningful exchange of opinions on this thread and on any others here at The Campfire.
If you're looking for kindred spirits, you can find them on Democratic Underground.
Several Russian plants here I see.... A rational person would spew Russian propaganda so easily...
Ukraine has done several pushes 70-80 miles into Russian held territory.... quite nerve-racking to see how it goes.. Tens of thousands of Russians are surrounded and cut of on several fronts... hundreds of Russian POW taken during the last 3 days.
Still waiting for your videos you said you have of Russian soldiers gang raping Ukrainian infants. lol.
Ol toot and Walt you're pretty touchy regarding your love of actual modern day NAZi's.
Sorry you both got called out and ran off of the fire for spreading Covid lies and fake news lmao
Putin made a really bad miscalculation in this and he has no honorable, face saving way to extract himself at this point.
When he doesn’t have arms at home to use, when he can’t manufacture those arms and has to go to rogue nations to obtain them,,,,Putin’s in deep scchitt and he’s desperate.
Originally Posted by Houston_2
Damn it’s nice getting all of the Howler Monkey Ignor-ants gathered together right here in a single thread. Success beyond measure when you can ignore the low bred, low IQ gang and actually have a good discussion with others whether we agree or not on the subject at hand.
That 10%-15% of the real tough, trash talking, name calling, brave guys hiding behind their keyboards, well, it don’t say much for your mom and pop and how you were raised and you’re most likely raising your kids the same way which is almost guaranteed. Your IQ is abysmal, you can’t help it if you even or ever wanted to change which is impossible, the die is cast for you and sadly, for those around you.
Simply,,,,Eliminate 10%-15% of those types which are found on many forums and you’ve got meaningful exchange of opinions on this thread and on any others here at The Campfire.
You know who else used to use 4 coma's in a row (instead of periods)??? Good Old Toot Toot
Several Russian plants here I see.... A rational person would spew Russian propaganda so easily...
Ukraine has done several pushes 70-80 miles into Russian held territory.... quite nerve-racking to see how it goes.. Tens of thousands of Russians are surrounded and cut of on several fronts... hundreds of Russian POW taken during the last 3 days.
WTF are you watching that you think Ukraine is winning?
Damn it’s nice getting all of the Howler Monkey Ignor-ants gathered together right here in a single thread. Success beyond measure when you can ignore the low bred, low IQ gang and actually have a good discussion with others whether we agree or not on the subject at hand.
That 10%-15% of the real tough, trash talking, name calling, brave guys hiding behind their keyboards, well, it don’t say much for your mom and pop and how you were raised and you’re most likely raising your kids the same way which is almost guaranteed. Your IQ is abysmal, you can’t help it if you even or ever wanted to change which is impossible, the die is cast for you and sadly, for those around you.
Simply,,,,Eliminate 10%-15% of those types which are found on many forums and you’ve got meaningful exchange of opinions on this thread and on any others here at The Campfire.
If you're looking for kindred spirits, you can find them on Democratic Underground.
Damn it’s nice getting all of the Howler Monkey Ignor-ants gathered together right here in a single thread. Success beyond measure when you can ignore the low bred, low IQ gang and actually have a good discussion with others whether we agree or not on the subject at hand.
That 10%-15% of the real tough, trash talking, name calling, brave guys hiding behind their keyboards, well, it don’t say much for your mom and pop and how you were raised and you’re most likely raising your kids the same way which is almost guaranteed. Your IQ is abysmal, you can’t help it if you even or ever wanted to change which is impossible, the die is cast for you and sadly, for those around you.
Simply,,,,Eliminate 10%-15% of those types which are found on many forums and you’ve got meaningful exchange of opinions on this thread and on any others here at The Campfire.
If you're looking for kindred spirits, you can find them on Democratic Underground.
Good one but no thanks!
Plenty of good folks here..
And you put em on ignore and slap n run like a bitch.
