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The Ukraine cheerleading propaganda has been coming out hot and heavy since the situation in Kherson. It sounds desperate to me--as if the propaganda machine can change the facts even when the MSM is forced to say that the Ukraine military got routed at Kherson.

It certainly has been a war of propaganda from both sides and the middle.

I've not heard much at all from Russia on the matter. The Ukraine situation sounds like it's just a Russian occupation of the Donbass region at this point.


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Originally Posted by Bristoe
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The Ukraine cheerleading propaganda has been coming out hot and heavy since the situation in Kherson. It sounds desperate to me--as if the propaganda machine can change the facts even when the MSM is forced to say that the Ukraine military got routed at Kherson.

It certainly has been a war of propaganda from both sides and the middle.

I've not heard much at all from Russia on the matter. The Ukraine situation sounds like it's just a Russian occupation of the Donbass region at this point.

Stevelyn can update you.

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Originally Posted by Bristoe
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Also, remember the title of this thread, the purpose of which is to goad "Putinistas." Some partisanship is to be expected on both sides.

The implication being that anyone who has a difference of opinion than the author of the thread is a fan of Putin.

In other words, it's a dishonest attempt to label someone as something they're not because of their opinion.

It's a favorite tactic of leftists.

Learn to recognize it.

Good Lord man, this is the internet, in a general discussion forum. There are no "tactics" here beyond provoking a reaction. It is transparent. Of course "Putinista" is pejorative, and it's right in the title.

It is no worse than all of the other name-calling pervasive in this thread and many others.

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Originally Posted by plumbum
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by plumbum
Also, remember the title of this thread, the purpose of which is to goad "Putinistas." Some partisanship is to be expected on both sides.

The implication being that anyone who has a difference of opinion than the author of the thread is a fan of Putin.

In other words, it's a dishonest attempt to label someone as something they're not because of their opinion.

It's a favorite tactic of leftists.

Learn to recognize it.

Good Lord man, this is the internet, in a general discussion forum. There are no "tactics" here beyond provoking a reaction. It is transparent. Of course "Putinista" is pejorative, and it's right in the title.

It is no worse than all of the other name-calling pervasive in this thread and many others.

Good summation.

It’ll fall on the deaf ears of the ignorant.

Bristoe is not one of them.

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Originally Posted by plumbum
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by plumbum
Also, remember the title of this thread, the purpose of which is to goad "Putinistas." Some partisanship is to be expected on both sides.

The implication being that anyone who has a difference of opinion than the author of the thread is a fan of Putin.

In other words, it's a dishonest attempt to label someone as something they're not because of their opinion.

It's a favorite tactic of leftists.

Learn to recognize it.

Good Lord man, this is the internet, in a general discussion forum. There are no "tactics" here beyond provoking a reaction. It is transparent. Of course "Putinista" is pejorative, and it's right in the title.

It is no worse than all of the other name-calling pervasive in this thread and many others.

,...and that's why you don't recognize it.

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Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by plumbum
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by plumbum
Also, remember the title of this thread, the purpose of which is to goad "Putinistas." Some partisanship is to be expected on both sides.

The implication being that anyone who has a difference of opinion than the author of the thread is a fan of Putin.

In other words, it's a dishonest attempt to label someone as something they're not because of their opinion.

It's a favorite tactic of leftists.



Learn to recognize it.

Good Lord man, this is the internet, in a general discussion forum. There are no "tactics" here beyond provoking a reaction. It is transparent. Of course "Putinista" is pejorative, and it's right in the title.

It is no worse than all of the other name-calling pervasive in this thread and many others.

,...and that's why you don't recognize it.

That’s weak even for you.

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Originally Posted by Houston_2
That’s weak even for you.

It's all that needs said. No need to get all verbose about it.

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Evgeny Buzhinsky, a retired Lieutenant-General of the Russian Armed Forces, claimed that the Ukrainian military is overflowing with American participants: “There are not only advisers, but specialists. I think that there are thousands of American advisers and specialists on the ground in Ukraine, they’re probably present in every unit.”

During his Wednesday’s radio show, Full Contact, top Kremlin propagandist Vladimir Solovyov—with a noticeably bruised face—surmised: “I’m worried. Naturally, we want for our guys to crush [the other side] and only to advance, but life doesn’t work that way.” Solovyov refused to address the source of his injuries, but in light of Ukrainian military gains, his bruised ego was likewise on full display.


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Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by plumbum
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by plumbum
Also, remember the title of this thread, the purpose of which is to goad "Putinistas." Some partisanship is to be expected on both sides.

The implication being that anyone who has a difference of opinion than the author of the thread is a fan of Putin.

In other words, it's a dishonest attempt to label someone as something they're not because of their opinion.

It's a favorite tactic of leftists.

Learn to recognize it.

Good Lord man, this is the internet, in a general discussion forum. There are no "tactics" here beyond provoking a reaction. It is transparent. Of course "Putinista" is pejorative, and it's right in the title.

It is no worse than all of the other name-calling pervasive in this thread and many others.

,...and that's why you don't recognize it.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

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Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by Houston_2
That’s weak even for you.

It's all that needs said. No need to get all verbose about it.


Sorry.
I didn’t feel that 5 words was being verbose.

But it is still weak.

If that’s all that needs to be said I assume you’re done here.

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Whether we believe Putin or not we can’t ignore what he says. Whether or not he’s lying to the Russian people in the public addresses that he frequently gives and whether or not he’s lying to the world he has been consistent in his stated goals. He’s a Russian and all Russians, including Ukrainians, are liars until proven otherwise. He’s a ex-KGB agent and a patriot of Russia so I wouldn’t trust that SOB for anything BUT that does NOT mean that his stated goals are lies. If his actions in support of those goals are evidence then I’d be inclined to take him seriously. I think that we ignore him at our peril.

This clip was posted earlier on another thread by a different poster and while I rarely click on Twitter links but I thought this clip of a speech Putin gave a couple months ago was insightful…..

https://twitter.com/GoldTelegraph_/status/1566501915172962304


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NATO and US are running low on Munitions and Supplies in General for Ukielund..

This will be over soon ..

Once the Tards in Dumsterware and Massinsanity start feeling the Drain on the Revenue Stream they’ll start Complaining that there’s no money for Youth Sex Change Operations and African Dance Education the Howl with be Unbearable for the Dual Citizens..

The Euro Lesbians have already started to Complain..

I’ll be Home for Christmas.. You can count on Me..

Hahaha Hahaha..

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Sad bunch of "Americans" here...


The US in the last 40 years:

Socialism for big corporations and military industrial complex

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Rugged individualism for the individual.
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Originally Posted by Bristoe
The attempted Kherson offensive launched by Ukraine:

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/...urope-its-economies-all-for-no-gain.html


Kherson:

Russia put 20-25.000 of its best troops into Kehrson across a 1/2 mile wide freezing river.

Then, Ukraine HIMARSed all the bridges behind them, trapping them on Ukraines side of the river.
Russian troops can't get resupplied or flee with their equipment.

They might try to swim across the river though...


Now Ukraine is just slowly withering them down... no rush.



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Photos from Russian and Ukrainian channels on Telegram showed Ukrainian soldiers holding the country’s flag in front of the city hall in Kupyansk, and Kremlin-loyal Russian military correspondents said Moscow’s forces had pulled back across the Oskil River to the eastern part of the city.


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Ukraine troops reach railway hub as breakthrough threatens to turn into rout


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The Ukraine conflict is a yuge help to President Trump's platform...

It will play like midget porn comedy... for years.

Go Joey Go!!!


If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.



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Originally Posted by Northman
Would rather have horns and tails, then be associated with MAGA Christians.. the most non christian people I have EVER seen.

No love in their hearts or behavior... just hate hate hate.
You have no idea what Christian is.


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